I am wondering, if and when the new proposed OGL goes into effect, if I decide I DONT want to abide by it, will that mean my membership gets cancelled? Will I still be able to log in and create characters with the DDB books I've already purchased like PHB, DMG, MM etc? or will I loose access?
That's a pretty good question....Could you still have access to your digital media if you don't opt in? Will they automatically force you (though hidden terms) to opt in just by logging into DnDByond?
Sure would be nice if they actually made some official statements about this....
I don’t get the question. Do you make and then sell D&D related content? Those are the only people who would need to “abide” by the ogl.
For the vast majority of players, the ogl, if the one presented is accurate, will mean a potential loss of some third party content as publishers may turn away, and that’s about it. And since third party stuff only exists here if you put it in with the homebrew tool, it shouldn’t impact dndbeyond at all.
The ogl is not a change to the terms of service here, if that was your impression.
I am wondering, if and when the new proposed OGL goes into effect, if I decide I DONT want to abide by it, will that mean my membership gets cancelled? Will I still be able to log in and create characters with the DDB books I've already purchased like PHB, DMG, MM etc? or will I loose access?
Using this site to play D&D and publishing content under the OGL are completely different things.
Your question is like asking "It looks like Elon is about to buy Twitter, can I still drive my Tesla?"
What I mean is that if I continue to use this site and the new OGL goes into effect, as it is written now, then there is a chance that I can lose ownership of created content. doesn't matter if I make money or not. If I don't want to agree to those terms, will it prevent me from using DDB? I have both the subscription and 4 books I have purchased, and don't want to forfeit those investments. My focus is on those digital items, not anything else.
Remember most sites say "By using this site you agree to our terms and conditions"... Will this be the case here? If I even so much as look at the PHB will I have agreed to those terms and conditions? Will I be given the chance to refuse those conditions and if I do will I lose access to my purchased materials?
What I mean is that if I continue to use this sight and the new ogl goes into effect, as it is written now, then there is a chance that I can loose ownership of created content. doesn't matter if I make money or not. If I don't want to agree to those terms, will it prevent me from using DDB? I have both the subscription and 4 books I have purchased, and don't want to forfeit those investments. My focus is on those digital items, not anything else.
Remember most sites say "By using this site you agree to our terms and conditions"... Will this be the case here? If I even so much as look at the PHB will I have agreed to those terms and conditions?
You already gave up your right to any content you create/post here. The new OGL has nothing to do with the Terms of Service for this site.
To be clear, you don't *own* the digital content you have purchased here on DnDBeyond. You just have a perpetual license to use it. A perpetual license that *can* be revoked under the right conditions.
If you have a physical copy of the books. They cannot come to your house and take them away from you.
If you are just using the books for gaming and not creating content. There is no reason why you would even be required to *accept* the OGL as it doesn't really pertain to you.
If a someone who only played D&D and not create content. The OGL is primarily an issue for the following reasons:
You stand in solidarity with 3rd party content creators.
You are concerned that a mass exodus of D&D players, DMs, and content creators could affect your ability to play / enjoy the game.
You have a personal bias against what WotC / Hasbro is trying to do.
I am wondering, if and when the new proposed OGL goes into effect, if I decide I DONT want to abide by it, will that mean my membership gets cancelled? Will I still be able to log in and create characters with the DDB books I've already purchased like PHB, DMG, MM etc? or will I loose access?
The thing of it is, for a lot of consumers who only utilize official D&D products to create home games or such... you'll be fine. No one from seattle is going to kick in your door while you are trying to ~I don't know~ run your carebears themed campaign setting.
No, the people who are going to take it in the trunk are going to be the people trying to do kickstarters, get VTTs going, design supplements or convert modules from 1st to 5th.
If you are one of those people though, you might want to carefully check and double check the EULA for DDB and have a stack of physical copies of the books you intend to use.
If you are one of those people though, you might want to carefully check and double check the EULA for DDB and have a stack of physical copies of the books you intend to use.
Awe Man! I just got over the argument of having to pay for two copies of one book! See how they distract us? lol! Yes, I have them already. Well, there is one digital copy I don't have....
The type of content you create here on DDB - characters, encounters, homebrew and the like - is an entirely different type of content than is covered by any version of the OGL. They're not the same. You won't lose access to your stuff if you don't agree to the new OGL. Nothing you do here on DDB is related to the OGL at all. This website's Terms of Service are the relevant agreement, and you've already accepted them by buying, registering, posting, etcetera. You can revoke that agreement any time you like, DDB legally cannot stop you from revoking your agreement, but doing so means forfeiting access to DDB or any part thereof.
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I am wondering, if and when the new proposed OGL goes into effect, if I decide I DONT want to abide by it, will that mean my membership gets cancelled? Will I still be able to log in and create characters with the DDB books I've already purchased like PHB, DMG, MM etc? or will I loose access?
That's a pretty good question....Could you still have access to your digital media if you don't opt in? Will they automatically force you (though hidden terms) to opt in just by logging into DnDByond?
Sure would be nice if they actually made some official statements about this....
I don’t get the question. Do you make and then sell D&D related content? Those are the only people who would need to “abide” by the ogl.
For the vast majority of players, the ogl, if the one presented is accurate, will mean a potential loss of some third party content as publishers may turn away, and that’s about it. And since third party stuff only exists here if you put it in with the homebrew tool, it shouldn’t impact dndbeyond at all.
The ogl is not a change to the terms of service here, if that was your impression.
Using this site to play D&D and publishing content under the OGL are completely different things.
Your question is like asking "It looks like Elon is about to buy Twitter, can I still drive my Tesla?"
Well, Im not confused! lol
What I mean is that if I continue to use this site and the new OGL goes into effect, as it is written now, then there is a chance that I can lose ownership of created content. doesn't matter if I make money or not. If I don't want to agree to those terms, will it prevent me from using DDB? I have both the subscription and 4 books I have purchased, and don't want to forfeit those investments. My focus is on those digital items, not anything else.
Remember most sites say "By using this site you agree to our terms and conditions"... Will this be the case here? If I even so much as look at the PHB will I have agreed to those terms and conditions? Will I be given the chance to refuse those conditions and if I do will I lose access to my purchased materials?
You already gave up your right to any content you create/post here. The new OGL has nothing to do with the Terms of Service for this site.
To be clear, you don't *own* the digital content you have purchased here on DnDBeyond. You just have a perpetual license to use it. A perpetual license that *can* be revoked under the right conditions.
If you have a physical copy of the books. They cannot come to your house and take them away from you.
If you are just using the books for gaming and not creating content. There is no reason why you would even be required to *accept* the OGL as it doesn't really pertain to you.
If a someone who only played D&D and not create content. The OGL is primarily an issue for the following reasons:
Otherwise. It doesn't affect you all that much.
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The thing of it is, for a lot of consumers who only utilize official D&D products to create home games or such... you'll be fine. No one from seattle is going to kick in your door while you are trying to ~I don't know~ run your carebears themed campaign setting.
No, the people who are going to take it in the trunk are going to be the people trying to do kickstarters, get VTTs going, design supplements or convert modules from 1st to 5th.
If you are one of those people though, you might want to carefully check and double check the EULA for DDB and have a stack of physical copies of the books you intend to use.
Awe Man! I just got over the argument of having to pay for two copies of one book! See how they distract us? lol! Yes, I have them already. Well, there is one digital copy I don't have....
The type of content you create here on DDB - characters, encounters, homebrew and the like - is an entirely different type of content than is covered by any version of the OGL. They're not the same. You won't lose access to your stuff if you don't agree to the new OGL. Nothing you do here on DDB is related to the OGL at all. This website's Terms of Service are the relevant agreement, and you've already accepted them by buying, registering, posting, etcetera. You can revoke that agreement any time you like, DDB legally cannot stop you from revoking your agreement, but doing so means forfeiting access to DDB or any part thereof.
Please do not contact or message me.