Seems pretty clear that they are trying to force everyone to buy everything instead of just the DM. By making it AI, there's little to no product sharing, especially online. It will also cause more and more emphasis on THEIR way of playing, THEIR ideas, THEIR adventures, not ours. It will force microtransactions, which they know will eventually weed out the people they don't want playing: poor, minorities, and queer people all with opinions about how corporations effect them directly. Wanna make a character? $3. Wanna build an encounter? $15. A subclass? $20. You want to access it 24/7 online? $50 a month with the promo code YOUWONTOOREALLY.
They only care about money, it's why Hasbro bought it and why they brought on an executive known for squeezing money out of customers. It's why their response was so insulting and ingenuous. Because they think Rich, mostly white people will see Chris Pine play a lute and Michelle Rodriguez do her thing and suddenly want to spend millions on their Brand. They want to own your ideas so if they are good, they can use them to make millions on the big screen and streaming without giving us a dime. They don't care about the community they have, they are not satisfied with it. They think we are ungrateful for all they have "given" us.
But we know better.
I have not played this game very long, but in the short time I have, I learned that D&D is mostly not the game anymore. The community, through the OGL was able to take the imperfect game that they offered us, and make it into something greater than the sum of its parts. Is D&D a good foundation? Even a great one? Clearly it is. You can't build an idea, a house, an empire without a foundation. But Hasbro would have us all believe that we haven't built it for them. We all did the work. Some of us wrote and designed for D&D, or others needing help, and even just for ourselves. For the pure joy of it. We did it because it made the thing we loved better, easier, more fun and more inclusive of the actual people playing the game. We learned that anyone could do this and sometimes even better than people paid by D&D. We are so good at it, make so much money off of it as a whole that Hasbro has decided that we are not customers. We are money machines, threats, or both. They don't want creatives, or players or even customers unless they pay for the privilege of being allowed to play the game built by so many others.
Anyway, maybe I am wrong. Maybe we don't have the ability to fight a giant corporation, with their thousands of lawyers and a horde of treasure to throw towards our defeat: financially, and increasingly personally. Honestly I'm excited to try some other systems. Figure out what a better game might look like. Maybe we will lose this one. But after looking at all the comments, blogs, videos, posts, kickstarters, and outpouring of support for the PEOPLE who actually built, loved, and grew with this game I just want you all to know: If I have to lose, I'm glad it's with all of you. And if there is any group that can defeat a despot, evil mage, vengeful dragon, or one small fight in the endless plane of Corporate Greed, it might just be us. I'll see you at the table, with whatever game we decide is worth our passion and attention.
One last thing: Anyone hoping for the downfall of the main corporations responsible, I'd only remind you that most of the people working within those structures not only have zero power to make any meaningful decisions but likely agree with us. Need their jobs the same as us. The corporations and the millionaire executives will be unaffected really, because even firing leads to wealth for the wealthy. The every day worker is already suffering from watching these decisions from the inside. Risked their livelihoods to warn us. Do not discount or punish the selfless gifts they have will continue to provide.
The goal of my reply was to point out that the way you view Wizards of the Coast is somewhat ridiculous. You say that all they care about is money, and all your examples are just speculation and/or unconfirmed rumors. The whole point of the movie is to monetize the D&D brand, and getting rich billionaires to donate most of their fortune is never a viable business strategy. Wizards may be trying to diversify D&D and appeal to more types of players, sure, but you're making it out to be some sort of zero-sum game where having rich or famous people enjoy the game means that us regular folk can't enjoy it too.
We don't know if they're making AI D&D rules and machines, that is mostly just speculation at this point and it honestly wouldn't be terrible if D&D could have ways to play it like that. The prices for subclasses, subscriptions, and adventures you give are just absurd. They are not realistic or accurate, and again, the only thing about Wizards raising the subscription for DDB at this point is another unconfirmed (rather sketchy) leak.
Even the business about the Open Game License wasn't about making sure there was only one place to buy from and one type of style to enjoy. The original terms may have been bad, but they weren't meant to limit Open Game Content, merely to profit of it.
Again, your whole post is about how terrible and evil Wizards of the Coast is for things they didn't do. Expanding the game does not mean limiting it. Inviting new players and play styles into the community doesn't mean kicking out the old ones. To me at lest, it really feels like you just want to get mad at the company, even if the facts of the situation don't really support the vast majority of the points you're making.
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Seems pretty clear that they are trying to force everyone to buy everything instead of just the DM. By making it AI, there's little to no product sharing, especially online. It will also cause more and more emphasis on THEIR way of playing, THEIR ideas, THEIR adventures, not ours. It will force microtransactions, which they know will eventually weed out the people they don't want playing: poor, minorities, and queer people all with opinions about how corporations effect them directly. Wanna make a character? $3. Wanna build an encounter? $15. A subclass? $20. You want to access it 24/7 online? $50 a month with the promo code YOUWONTOOREALLY.
They only care about money, it's why Hasbro bought it and why they brought on an executive known for squeezing money out of customers. It's why their response was so insulting and ingenuous. Because they think Rich, mostly white people will see Chris Pine play a lute and Michelle Rodriguez do her thing and suddenly want to spend millions on their Brand. They want to own your ideas so if they are good, they can use them to make millions on the big screen and streaming without giving us a dime. They don't care about the community they have, they are not satisfied with it. They think we are ungrateful for all they have "given" us.
But we know better.
I have not played this game very long, but in the short time I have, I learned that D&D is mostly not the game anymore. The community, through the OGL was able to take the imperfect game that they offered us, and make it into something greater than the sum of its parts. Is D&D a good foundation? Even a great one? Clearly it is. You can't build an idea, a house, an empire without a foundation. But Hasbro would have us all believe that we haven't built it for them. We all did the work. Some of us wrote and designed for D&D, or others needing help, and even just for ourselves. For the pure joy of it. We did it because it made the thing we loved better, easier, more fun and more inclusive of the actual people playing the game. We learned that anyone could do this and sometimes even better than people paid by D&D. We are so good at it, make so much money off of it as a whole that Hasbro has decided that we are not customers. We are money machines, threats, or both. They don't want creatives, or players or even customers unless they pay for the privilege of being allowed to play the game built by so many others.
Anyway, maybe I am wrong. Maybe we don't have the ability to fight a giant corporation, with their thousands of lawyers and a horde of treasure to throw towards our defeat: financially, and increasingly personally. Honestly I'm excited to try some other systems. Figure out what a better game might look like. Maybe we will lose this one. But after looking at all the comments, blogs, videos, posts, kickstarters, and outpouring of support for the PEOPLE who actually built, loved, and grew with this game I just want you all to know: If I have to lose, I'm glad it's with all of you. And if there is any group that can defeat a despot, evil mage, vengeful dragon, or one small fight in the endless plane of Corporate Greed, it might just be us. I'll see you at the table, with whatever game we decide is worth our passion and attention.
One last thing: Anyone hoping for the downfall of the main corporations responsible, I'd only remind you that most of the people working within those structures not only have zero power to make any meaningful decisions but likely agree with us. Need their jobs the same as us. The corporations and the millionaire executives will be unaffected really, because even firing leads to wealth for the wealthy. The every day worker is already suffering from watching these decisions from the inside. Risked their livelihoods to warn us. Do not discount or punish the selfless gifts they have will continue to provide.
You really seem to have a high opinion of Wizards of the Coast.
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HERE.What exactly is your goal with this reply?
The goal of my reply was to point out that the way you view Wizards of the Coast is somewhat ridiculous. You say that all they care about is money, and all your examples are just speculation and/or unconfirmed rumors. The whole point of the movie is to monetize the D&D brand, and getting rich billionaires to donate most of their fortune is never a viable business strategy. Wizards may be trying to diversify D&D and appeal to more types of players, sure, but you're making it out to be some sort of zero-sum game where having rich or famous people enjoy the game means that us regular folk can't enjoy it too.
We don't know if they're making AI D&D rules and machines, that is mostly just speculation at this point and it honestly wouldn't be terrible if D&D could have ways to play it like that. The prices for subclasses, subscriptions, and adventures you give are just absurd. They are not realistic or accurate, and again, the only thing about Wizards raising the subscription for DDB at this point is another unconfirmed (rather sketchy) leak.
Even the business about the Open Game License wasn't about making sure there was only one place to buy from and one type of style to enjoy. The original terms may have been bad, but they weren't meant to limit Open Game Content, merely to profit of it.
Again, your whole post is about how terrible and evil Wizards of the Coast is for things they didn't do. Expanding the game does not mean limiting it. Inviting new players and play styles into the community doesn't mean kicking out the old ones. To me at lest, it really feels like you just want to get mad at the company, even if the facts of the situation don't really support the vast majority of the points you're making.
BoringBard's long and tedious posts somehow manage to enrapture audiences. How? Because he used Charm Person, the #1 bard spell!
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Ever wanted to talk about your parties' worst mistakes? Do so HERE. What's your favorite class, why? Share & explain
HERE.Cool! Hope you have fun playing the game with other people like yourself!