When the new rules come out do you guys think 5e will slowly stop being talked about on the forums, stay completely alive on the forums, instantly be destroyed, or forever coexist with 6e? If you pick slowly die off the forums then please say how long you think it will be in the comments. Rember the poll entries could have different meaning to you, for example: "5e is beat out of the forums, but the 6e stuff can carry over easily." Also if you have a wild answer be sure to comment it!!! :D
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Fighter: We need to get out of here! The Goblins are overwhelming us!
Wizard: Time to use that sketchy item the DM never stops grinning about *rolls a nat one*
Barbarian(in rage as usual): Aw Hellllllll Naw . . .
Considering the new edition is not 6e, but more akin to a 5.5e, any conversation about OneD&D will, by definition, be a conversation about 5e. Now, do I expect 5.5e will dominate the forums? Perhaps in the long run—but I expect, as with most transitions, it will take a while for the transition to occur.
Hopefully they maintain some kind of clear segmentation between the two versions of the rules on this site, whether that's in reference to the tools themselves, the rules sources, and the forums, and continue to support both versions concurrently for those of us that don't want to shift to the new edition. Not going to hold my breath though. That said, the forums would be the least of my concerns, as being able to continue to use the site without being forced into revised rules is the major concern I and many others hold. Otherwise it means finding a new character management tool for 5e, which would be sad.
At its core the rules are the same; it's not like transitioning between 3.5 and 5e. Same basic format, same stat block structures, same core spell system, etc. They're unlikely to actually take down content wholesale; most likely they'll just do what they did with VGtM and MToF- the material won't be up for purchase anymore and the relevant pages will have a Legacy tag, but it'll all still be up for anyone who already bought them. After the blow up this winter- and probably more importantly, Paizo making a killing off that blow up- they can't possibly think the kind of strong arm tactics people like to invoke for the "what if" game would actually pay off for them. Same deal for character sheets; the framework is the same, and they'd stand to lose a lot more than they're likely to gain if they try to force the issue.
At its core the rules are the same; it's not like transitioning between 3.5 and 5e. Same basic format, same stat block structures, same core spell system, etc. They're unlikely to actually take down content wholesale; most likely they'll just do what they did with VGtM and MToF- the material won't be up for purchase anymore and the relevant pages will have a Legacy tag, but it'll all still be up for anyone who already bought them. After the blow up this winter- and probably more importantly, Paizo making a killing off that blow up- they can't possibly think the kind of strong arm tactics people like to invoke for the "what if" game would actually pay off for them. Same deal for character sheets; the framework is the same, and they'd stand to lose a lot more than they're likely to gain if they try to force the issue.
Hm - I think the opposite. They'll update everything to the 'current' version of the rules. After all, this is going to be RPG-as-a-service, so yea, they're going to cleanly excise everything you're not paying for, meaning anything other than the current versions of everything. Propably there'll be some sort of archive though. Like you say, legacy. But they'll be highly motivated to get, and keep, everyone playing the same thing - so legacy will be in some unmarked folder in a deep basement where the light is out, and there's a crocodile.
Or in clearer language: They'll make current stuff easy to find, top of site stuff - and all the things that they don't want people mucking about with will be less accessible, less integrated. Like, the current orc raider will be plug-and-play, drag-and-drop, while the legacy orc raider will be neither.
Then, in 5 years when that's all rolling along nicely, they'll do what WoW did, and create a Classic version, where all the legacy stuff is plug-n-play, and the Forgotten Realms is locked in time before the Time of Troubles - or some such. It'll all be .... perfectly servicable. God I wish we lived in a world where Shadowrun actually worked as a system.
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Blanket disclaimer: I only ever state opinion. But I can sound terribly dogmatic - so if you feel I'm trying to tell you what to think, I'm really not, I swear. I'm telling you what I think, that's all.
I have no idea with certainty but they will lose me as a customer if they start forcing 5e out in any way. The supposed update is a clear cash grab with little to gain and lots to lose by updating. I will happily pay the $54.95 per year for the Master Subscription and per product costs as long as new products actually ARE 5e compatible, but a through removal of 5e will destroy WotC in my eyes. Think of it like a Steam game you’ve purchased.
I have no idea with certainty but they will lose me as a customer if they start forcing 5e out in any way. The supposed update is a clear cash grab with little to gain and lots to lose by updating. I will happily pay the $54.95 per year for the Master Subscription and per product costs as long as new products actually ARE 5e compatible, but a through removal of 5e will destroy WotC in my eyes. Think of it like a Steam game you’ve purchased.
It's not like I really disagree. I've resisted every edition since starting 2nd back in the day - yet I've played all of them, even 4th (if briefly). I'll play the next one too. Frankly, I'm not even too invested in 5th. In certain ways, it's definitely the best yet - but in others, it's just kinda samey. Like, a barbarian and a bard play differently, but kinda feels the same. I doubt that makes sense to anyone but me, but all classes seem to perform to a very similar arch. In a way, it's helped me focus more on fun characters.
Anyways, the thing is: I don't really think forcing everyone to play 6th will lose them any customers. We'll resist to different degrees, then come aboard when we're ready. And RPG-as-a-service kinda makes sense. I'm sure they'll ef it up, but that's not because the principle isn't sound. That's execution, and that's always harder than concept.
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Blanket disclaimer: I only ever state opinion. But I can sound terribly dogmatic - so if you feel I'm trying to tell you what to think, I'm really not, I swear. I'm telling you what I think, that's all.
I predict a slow burn down of 5e and a buildup of One D&D at the same time.
Not because WotC will force this to happen, but because the product shift and new customers will move the "hot topics" to One D&D. The community will gradually talk about one thing more than the other.
Nothing will be nefarious, this is the nature of online communities and products that change over time.
When the new rules come out do you guys think 5e will slowly stop being talked about on the forums, stay completely alive on the forums, instantly be destroyed, or forever coexist with 6e? If you pick slowly die off the forums then please say how long you think it will be in the comments. Rember the poll entries could have different meaning to you, for example: "5e is beat out of the forums, but the 6e stuff can carry over easily." Also if you have a wild answer be sure to comment it!!! :D
Fighter: We need to get out of here! The Goblins are overwhelming us!
Wizard: Time to use that sketchy item the DM never stops grinning about *rolls a nat one*
Barbarian(in rage as usual): Aw Hellllllll Naw . . .
Considering the new edition is not 6e, but more akin to a 5.5e, any conversation about OneD&D will, by definition, be a conversation about 5e. Now, do I expect 5.5e will dominate the forums? Perhaps in the long run—but I expect, as with most transitions, it will take a while for the transition to occur.
Hopefully they maintain some kind of clear segmentation between the two versions of the rules on this site, whether that's in reference to the tools themselves, the rules sources, and the forums, and continue to support both versions concurrently for those of us that don't want to shift to the new edition. Not going to hold my breath though. That said, the forums would be the least of my concerns, as being able to continue to use the site without being forced into revised rules is the major concern I and many others hold. Otherwise it means finding a new character management tool for 5e, which would be sad.
At its core the rules are the same; it's not like transitioning between 3.5 and 5e. Same basic format, same stat block structures, same core spell system, etc. They're unlikely to actually take down content wholesale; most likely they'll just do what they did with VGtM and MToF- the material won't be up for purchase anymore and the relevant pages will have a Legacy tag, but it'll all still be up for anyone who already bought them. After the blow up this winter- and probably more importantly, Paizo making a killing off that blow up- they can't possibly think the kind of strong arm tactics people like to invoke for the "what if" game would actually pay off for them. Same deal for character sheets; the framework is the same, and they'd stand to lose a lot more than they're likely to gain if they try to force the issue.
Hm - I think the opposite. They'll update everything to the 'current' version of the rules. After all, this is going to be RPG-as-a-service, so yea, they're going to cleanly excise everything you're not paying for, meaning anything other than the current versions of everything. Propably there'll be some sort of archive though. Like you say, legacy. But they'll be highly motivated to get, and keep, everyone playing the same thing - so legacy will be in some unmarked folder in a deep basement where the light is out, and there's a crocodile.
Or in clearer language: They'll make current stuff easy to find, top of site stuff - and all the things that they don't want people mucking about with will be less accessible, less integrated. Like, the current orc raider will be plug-and-play, drag-and-drop, while the legacy orc raider will be neither.
Then, in 5 years when that's all rolling along nicely, they'll do what WoW did, and create a Classic version, where all the legacy stuff is plug-n-play, and the Forgotten Realms is locked in time before the Time of Troubles - or some such. It'll all be .... perfectly servicable. God I wish we lived in a world where Shadowrun actually worked as a system.
Blanket disclaimer: I only ever state opinion. But I can sound terribly dogmatic - so if you feel I'm trying to tell you what to think, I'm really not, I swear. I'm telling you what I think, that's all.
I have no idea with certainty but they will lose me as a customer if they start forcing 5e out in any way. The supposed update is a clear cash grab with little to gain and lots to lose by updating. I will happily pay the $54.95 per year for the Master Subscription and per product costs as long as new products actually ARE 5e compatible, but a through removal of 5e will destroy WotC in my eyes. Think of it like a Steam game you’ve purchased.
It's not like I really disagree. I've resisted every edition since starting 2nd back in the day - yet I've played all of them, even 4th (if briefly). I'll play the next one too. Frankly, I'm not even too invested in 5th. In certain ways, it's definitely the best yet - but in others, it's just kinda samey. Like, a barbarian and a bard play differently, but kinda feels the same. I doubt that makes sense to anyone but me, but all classes seem to perform to a very similar arch. In a way, it's helped me focus more on fun characters.
Anyways, the thing is: I don't really think forcing everyone to play 6th will lose them any customers. We'll resist to different degrees, then come aboard when we're ready. And RPG-as-a-service kinda makes sense. I'm sure they'll ef it up, but that's not because the principle isn't sound. That's execution, and that's always harder than concept.
Blanket disclaimer: I only ever state opinion. But I can sound terribly dogmatic - so if you feel I'm trying to tell you what to think, I'm really not, I swear. I'm telling you what I think, that's all.
I predict a slow burn down of 5e and a buildup of One D&D at the same time.
Not because WotC will force this to happen, but because the product shift and new customers will move the "hot topics" to One D&D. The community will gradually talk about one thing more than the other.
Nothing will be nefarious, this is the nature of online communities and products that change over time.
Abstain.