Do I am alone to feel that all those releases are strange ?
The 3 new core book are less than 1 year old, and there are already so many extensions. (And this is so much money)
Roleplaying game is a time-consuming game, you can't make things like Marvel and Disney :/
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We do not have yet any campaign or adventures pack related to Greyhawk but we have :
- Dragons Delves
- Initiation Kit
- Stranger Things stuff
- Eberron Extension (seriously the artificer could have been in the core after all those years)
- Forgotten Realm Stuff with BG3 hype shit, they did a Greyhawk setting for the Dungeon Master guide and now they release a Forgotten Realm setting ??? Again ? Wtf..
Releasing products that people will buy so they can make money is the quick answer.
D&D is not like a restaurant where people will keep coming back to eat over and over; when a new product releases, generally speaking, it will sell a bunch when new, then teeter off into slow-drip sales because those that want the new thing have now bought it. They don't need to keep re-buying the same product (ignoring the buying it digital, physical and Roll20/Foundry/Whatever point here).
Without new products to keep people giving them money, the only way D&D is making money off the top of my head is through sales of minis, accessories and subscriptions here on D&D Beyond.
For me personally, the downside of all these releases isn't the fear of missing out - I have no intention of buying the Stranger Things products and this is coming from a fan of Stranger Things. The downside is that this developer-strapped site will be forced to implement all these new products to work with the character sheet etc when so many basic character functions still don't work (e.g. applying Agonizing Blast to any Warlock Cantrip).
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In terms of content, it's not an issue to my eyes. The strategy seems to be rather than selling a handful of products that's for everyone, but to sell tons and see what sticks. That's fine as a strategy, just buy what's good for you. Most won't be.
I agree with Lamoon that the issue is that DDB needs to spend more time improving the functionality of the site, and this release cadence would make that near impossible.
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We do not have yet any campaign or adventures pack related to Greyhawk but we have :
- Dragons Delves
- Initiation Kit
- Stranger Things stuff
- Eberron Extension (seriously the artificer could have been in the core after all those years)
- Forgotten Realm Stuff with BG3 hype shit, they did a Greyhawk setting for the Dungeon Master guide and now they release a Forgotten Realm setting ??? Again ? Wtf..
What WOTC is doing ?
What we're actually looking at is
1 anthology 1 Starter set 1 Promotional starter set 2 Setting guildes, one of which is a "slimline" guide
Within the a year of the 2024 core rulebooks, that's not really a lot.
Now let's look at the demographic breakdown
1 "universal" product (Dragon Delves) which can be run as one shots or tied into 1 standard intro set and 1 tie in intro set 2 setting guides for very different settings - 1 is a slimline setting designed to expand on an existing book, and the other is a 2 book collection aimed at players and DMs separately
Basically WotC is casting a reasonable wide net in terms of who they're aiming products at. Yes, we've not had any adventures but we're not really hurting for adventures either.
- Eberron Extension (seriously the artificer could have been in the core after all those years)
- Forgotten Realm Stuff with BG3 hype shit, they did a Greyhawk setting for the Dungeon Master guide and now they release a Forgotten Realm setting ??? Again ? Wtf..
- Dragon Delve: Adventure anthology, a type of material they release practically every year
- Started Kit: It's a re-release of the Core books, having a new Started Set is a great move to attract new players
- Stranger Thing: We are in the year of the last season of the series that will be launched with great spectacle, a series that constantly dialogued with D&D and already had promotional material, if it isn't now there will not be another opportunity to make a tie-in with something that helped so much in the popularization of D&D.
- Eberron: It's not just the Artificer, it's the species, new Dragonmark rules, unique monsters, etc. Add that to the update for 5e24 and it makes a lot of sense.
- Forgotten Realms: popular demand, and they didn't make Greyhawnk in the DMG to be the official setting, the official setting is the D&D multiverse
I agree that we are seeing another string of overcrowded releases in a short space of time, but saying that what is being released is irrelevant is unfounded.
Do I am alone to feel that all those releases are strange ?
The 3 new core book are less than 1 year old, and there are already so many extensions. (And this is so much money)
Roleplaying game is a time-consuming game, you can't make things like Marvel and Disney :/
.
We do not have yet any campaign or adventures pack related to Greyhawk but we have :
- Dragons Delves
- Initiation Kit
- Stranger Things stuff
- Eberron Extension (seriously the artificer could have been in the core after all those years)
- Forgotten Realm Stuff with BG3 hype shit, they did a Greyhawk setting for the Dungeon Master guide and now they release a Forgotten Realm setting ??? Again ? Wtf..
What WOTC is doing ?
I personally only care for the core books (Phb, MM and DMG). Anything besides adventure modules have no ROI for me.
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Do I am alone to feel that all those releases are strange ?
The 3 new core book are less than 1 year old, and there are already so many extensions. (And this is so much money)
Roleplaying game is a time-consuming game, you can't make things like Marvel and Disney :/
.
We do not have yet any campaign or adventures pack related to Greyhawk but we have :
- Dragons Delves
- Initiation Kit
- Stranger Things stuff
- Eberron Extension (seriously the artificer could have been in the core after all those years)
- Forgotten Realm Stuff with BG3 hype shit, they did a Greyhawk setting for the Dungeon Master guide and now they release a Forgotten Realm setting ??? Again ? Wtf..
What WOTC is doing ?
Releasing products that people will buy so they can make money is the quick answer.
D&D is not like a restaurant where people will keep coming back to eat over and over; when a new product releases, generally speaking, it will sell a bunch when new, then teeter off into slow-drip sales because those that want the new thing have now bought it. They don't need to keep re-buying the same product (ignoring the buying it digital, physical and Roll20/Foundry/Whatever point here).
Without new products to keep people giving them money, the only way D&D is making money off the top of my head is through sales of minis, accessories and subscriptions here on D&D Beyond.
For me personally, the downside of all these releases isn't the fear of missing out - I have no intention of buying the Stranger Things products and this is coming from a fan of Stranger Things. The downside is that this developer-strapped site will be forced to implement all these new products to work with the character sheet etc when so many basic character functions still don't work (e.g. applying Agonizing Blast to any Warlock Cantrip).
#Open D&D
Have the Physical Books? Confused as to why you're not allowed to redeem them for free on D&D Beyond? Questions answered here at the Hardcover Books, D&D Beyond and You FAQ
Looking to add mouse-over triggered tooltips to such things like magic items, monsters or combat actions? Then dash over to the How to Add Tooltips thread.
In terms of content, it's not an issue to my eyes. The strategy seems to be rather than selling a handful of products that's for everyone, but to sell tons and see what sticks. That's fine as a strategy, just buy what's good for you. Most won't be.
I agree with Lamoon that the issue is that DDB needs to spend more time improving the functionality of the site, and this release cadence would make that near impossible.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
What we're actually looking at is
1 anthology
1 Starter set
1 Promotional starter set
2 Setting guildes, one of which is a "slimline" guide
Within the a year of the 2024 core rulebooks, that's not really a lot.
Now let's look at the demographic breakdown
1 "universal" product (Dragon Delves) which can be run as one shots or tied into
1 standard intro set and 1 tie in intro set
2 setting guides for very different settings - 1 is a slimline setting designed to expand on an existing book, and the other is a 2 book collection aimed at players and DMs separately
Basically WotC is casting a reasonable wide net in terms of who they're aiming products at. Yes, we've not had any adventures but we're not really hurting for adventures either.
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- Dragon Delve: Adventure anthology, a type of material they release practically every year
- Started Kit: It's a re-release of the Core books, having a new Started Set is a great move to attract new players
- Stranger Thing: We are in the year of the last season of the series that will be launched with great spectacle, a series that constantly dialogued with D&D and already had promotional material, if it isn't now there will not be another opportunity to make a tie-in with something that helped so much in the popularization of D&D.
- Eberron: It's not just the Artificer, it's the species, new Dragonmark rules, unique monsters, etc. Add that to the update for 5e24 and it makes a lot of sense.
- Forgotten Realms: popular demand, and they didn't make Greyhawnk in the DMG to be the official setting, the official setting is the D&D multiverse
I agree that we are seeing another string of overcrowded releases in a short space of time, but saying that what is being released is irrelevant is unfounded.
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I personally only care for the core books (Phb, MM and DMG). Anything besides adventure modules have no ROI for me.
It's positively sedate compared to back in 3rd or 4th Edition, when WotC was publishing at least one book per month most years.
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