So as of lately my buds and me have been doing a campaign we own the books and didn't feel like buying the over so we plugged in most of the stuff through Homebrews. however I did most of the work and didn't feel like having to do more so I purchased of the content so that we didn't have to plug it in... however it seems they can't use the purchased content even though we are all in the same campaign. is there a way to fix this... if not then whats the point of buying the e-books
So... Homebrew is shared for free. Purchased content requires a master subscription to enable content sharing in a campaign. (At least the sub doesn't need to be the DM or the one with books.)
No but they're site is more flushed out than Dnd Beyond, its perfect not just for players but also for GM's, there is a world builder that you can even make custom maps to, and pinning to a map that everyone can see so know whats in the city before entering and such. and a real map combat encounter that you can use. unlike the trash one that this site is trying to build and most likely charge you to use.
and for books just look towards the high seas, for those that don't understand like stormknight I mean ordering from foreign counties unless they consider that illegal too.
There’s a couple things I need to address here. First, the encounter builder is free to use. It will be free once it gets out of beta. You’ll just have a limit on the number of encounters you can create, and you can’t see the stats of any monster you haven’t purchased. Although it’ll still calculate the difficulty. At least, I believe so.
Second, DND Beyond is a separate entity from WotC. They have to pay for the licensing of the books, as well as maintaining the site, paying their workers, and working on everything else they need to. DND Beyond only gets a percentage of the profits from book sales, but they get all of the money from subscription sales.
Buying the books on your account is for personal use only. If you have the books on here, and your DM doesn’t use DND Beyond. Or if your players don’t use it, you can use it. Buying the subscription is what allows you to share it.
And seeing as how you can buy everything piece mail, the subscription and everything you need to play is not that much. Along with the fairly common discount codes, I’d say they’re far from money-hungry.
No but they're site is more flushed out than Dnd Beyond, its perfect not just for players but also for GM's, there is a world builder that you can even make custom maps to, and pinning to a map that everyone can see so know whats in the city before entering and such. and a real map combat encounter that you can use. unlike the trash one that this site is trying to build and most likely charge you to use.
World anvil is a different service than DDB. DDB was first made to be a companion tool at tables for making character sheets and looking up books. New features are slowly being added. A VTT for online play is a long term goal.
I think you are going to need a subscription at World anvil to use some of the features you mentioned. Switching to world anvil doesn't fix any of the problems you had with DDB, they don't even have books let alone sharing and require a subscription that is just as expensive as DDB's to use their tools. The only thing you need a sub on DDB for is content sharing, unlimited characters (same at WA), alpha test new tools, and use other people's homebrew. Once new tools are out of testing, they are free at DDB unlike WA.
If you want to use world anvil instead of DDB, there is no problem with that, but to say world anvil does the same thing as DDB but better and cheaper is like saying oranges are the best apples because they have no seeds. It is just an incorrect statement full of misinformation.
even if DND beyond is separate from Wotc, they would still be getting a license discount for one being paperless and two being a online souring for them, not to mention if the site pledge loyalty to them they would receive and even larger discount which we already can assume that they are because the site only holds Wotc content. So with that dealt with we can assume that the licensing cost is rather low no to mention its most likely a easy profit is being made from just the books due to the fact that they are willing to sell the books for less (almost 20 dollar difference on most books). when it comes to sever maintenance that isn't a huge hassle, I worked IT for an oil company, we experienced a lot more traffic and attempts at breaches than this site does, the maintenance isn't a drastically high cost for them either the largest cost to them would be employee salary. which is valid to say the least. A subscription, would be more practical, for integration of things like map building, alpha and beta usage, and opening an access of unlimited characters and campaigns, even the using public homebrews isn't bad for a subscription. But to make someone buy a book then to have them pay additional subscription just so they can use in for its intended for is worse than EA, EA will give you a half baked game (much like how this site is) and release the parts for it for a fee which is crap, DNDB will give you the half baked site, then have you pay for the additional material, then have you pay for a subscription to use said material.
not really all the the features I've listed are free for base usage, the subscription is for when you want larger play, such as building a multi world or having different planes, and have different levels of the world, ect. also the sub allows you to make your builds private, but who really cares if someone can see what your character looks like or what world they are living on. so the tools are majorly free on world anvil, only when you want a larger depth does a sub become needed.
And who said anything about pirating, I was talking about going across seas (if you live in america) because the books are cheaper in other countries
no one said that world anvil was cheaper and better, even though they are better, if anything you get more bang for your buck with world anvil than DDB and for a better comparison would be a store that sells high grade apples along with other fruits while DDB sells the left over apples and just the apples. It's not misinformation and its not an incorrect statement
But to make someone buy a book then to have them pay additional subscription just so they can use in for its intended for is worse than EA, EA will give you a half baked game (much like how this site is) and release the parts for it for a fee which is crap, DNDB will give you the half baked site, then have you pay for the additional material, then have you pay for a subscription to use said material.
You can use the book for no additional cost. You only have to pay so other people can use it. In the EA game analogy, It would be like if you could pay to play online and the people you played with could play without having to also own the game or any of the add ons.
You also don't need to buy any books or subscriptions to make a character in the first place. So it is like a free game that if you buy DLC and a sub, other people can play the DLC with you without having to buy it. It is honestly a more generous model than any game company has used least of all EA.
okay then let me correct my analogy, its the equivalent of EA giving you a game, that is meant to be played online, selling the DLC then saying to use the DLC online you must pay a sub. which worse, if anything we can say your trying to sugarcoat it as much as I'm trying to demonize it, I guess because you have been happy with your serves while I have not. either way I think its bullshit to have someone double pay for content so that they can use it for it intended purpose.
Also for the game company part if you've noticed more companies have been making there games one party pay where if the host owns the material then the additional players can use it ONLY with in the server of the host, some gaming companies have made it where as long as one person owns the content host or not, then everyone in that server can use it. and the reason they do this they understand that if people enjoy the content they will want it for when they become host or want to play with other friends, which in turn spread the message through the Grapevine. and this model works for both large and small companies.
So as of lately my buds and me have been doing a campaign we own the books and didn't feel like buying the over so we plugged in most of the stuff through Homebrews. however I did most of the work and didn't feel like having to do more so I purchased of the content so that we didn't have to plug it in... however it seems they can't use the purchased content even though we are all in the same campaign. is there a way to fix this... if not then whats the point of buying the e-books
So... Homebrew is shared for free. Purchased content requires a master subscription to enable content sharing in a campaign. (At least the sub doesn't need to be the DM or the one with books.)
Thanks for the info, I didn't know that DnDbeyond was more cash hungry than EA. My group will most likely be moving to world anvil Instead
Does world anvil even sell D&D books? I didn't see them mention that when I checked their site.
No but they're site is more flushed out than Dnd Beyond, its perfect not just for players but also for GM's, there is a world builder that you can even make custom maps to, and pinning to a map that everyone can see so know whats in the city before entering and such. and a real map combat encounter that you can use. unlike the trash one that this site is trying to build and most likely charge you to use.
and for books just look towards the high seas, for those that don't understand like stormknight I mean ordering from foreign counties unless they consider that illegal too.
There’s a couple things I need to address here. First, the encounter builder is free to use. It will be free once it gets out of beta. You’ll just have a limit on the number of encounters you can create, and you can’t see the stats of any monster you haven’t purchased. Although it’ll still calculate the difficulty. At least, I believe so.
Second, DND Beyond is a separate entity from WotC. They have to pay for the licensing of the books, as well as maintaining the site, paying their workers, and working on everything else they need to. DND Beyond only gets a percentage of the profits from book sales, but they get all of the money from subscription sales.
Buying the books on your account is for personal use only. If you have the books on here, and your DM doesn’t use DND Beyond. Or if your players don’t use it, you can use it. Buying the subscription is what allows you to share it.
And seeing as how you can buy everything piece mail, the subscription and everything you need to play is not that much. Along with the fairly common discount codes, I’d say they’re far from money-hungry.
Dominick Finch
World anvil is a different service than DDB. DDB was first made to be a companion tool at tables for making character sheets and looking up books. New features are slowly being added. A VTT for online play is a long term goal.
I think you are going to need a subscription at World anvil to use some of the features you mentioned. Switching to world anvil doesn't fix any of the problems you had with DDB, they don't even have books let alone sharing and require a subscription that is just as expensive as DDB's to use their tools. The only thing you need a sub on DDB for is content sharing, unlimited characters (same at WA), alpha test new tools, and use other people's homebrew. Once new tools are out of testing, they are free at DDB unlike WA.
If you want to use world anvil instead of DDB, there is no problem with that, but to say world anvil does the same thing as DDB but better and cheaper is like saying oranges are the best apples because they have no seeds. It is just an incorrect statement full of misinformation.
even if DND beyond is separate from Wotc, they would still be getting a license discount for one being paperless and two being a online souring for them, not to mention if the site pledge loyalty to them they would receive and even larger discount which we already can assume that they are because the site only holds Wotc content. So with that dealt with we can assume that the licensing cost is rather low no to mention its most likely a easy profit is being made from just the books due to the fact that they are willing to sell the books for less (almost 20 dollar difference on most books). when it comes to sever maintenance that isn't a huge hassle, I worked IT for an oil company, we experienced a lot more traffic and attempts at breaches than this site does, the maintenance isn't a drastically high cost for them either the largest cost to them would be employee salary. which is valid to say the least. A subscription, would be more practical, for integration of things like map building, alpha and beta usage, and opening an access of unlimited characters and campaigns, even the using public homebrews isn't bad for a subscription. But to make someone buy a book then to have them pay additional subscription just so they can use in for its intended for is worse than EA, EA will give you a half baked game (much like how this site is) and release the parts for it for a fee which is crap, DNDB will give you the half baked site, then have you pay for the additional material, then have you pay for a subscription to use said material.
not really all the the features I've listed are free for base usage, the subscription is for when you want larger play, such as building a multi world or having different planes, and have different levels of the world, ect. also the sub allows you to make your builds private, but who really cares if someone can see what your character looks like or what world they are living on. so the tools are majorly free on world anvil, only when you want a larger depth does a sub become needed.
And who said anything about pirating, I was talking about going across seas (if you live in america) because the books are cheaper in other countries
no one said that world anvil was cheaper and better, even though they are better, if anything you get more bang for your buck with world anvil than DDB and for a better comparison would be a store that sells high grade apples along with other fruits while DDB sells the left over apples and just the apples. It's not misinformation and its not an incorrect statement
You can use the book for no additional cost. You only have to pay so other people can use it. In the EA game analogy, It would be like if you could pay to play online and the people you played with could play without having to also own the game or any of the add ons.
You also don't need to buy any books or subscriptions to make a character in the first place. So it is like a free game that if you buy DLC and a sub, other people can play the DLC with you without having to buy it. It is honestly a more generous model than any game company has used least of all EA.
okay then let me correct my analogy, its the equivalent of EA giving you a game, that is meant to be played online, selling the DLC then saying to use the DLC online you must pay a sub. which worse, if anything we can say your trying to sugarcoat it as much as I'm trying to demonize it, I guess because you have been happy with your serves while I have not. either way I think its bullshit to have someone double pay for content so that they can use it for it intended purpose.
Also for the game company part if you've noticed more companies have been making there games one party pay where if the host owns the material then the additional players can use it ONLY with in the server of the host, some gaming companies have made it where as long as one person owns the content host or not, then everyone in that server can use it. and the reason they do this they understand that if people enjoy the content they will want it for when they become host or want to play with other friends, which in turn spread the message through the Grapevine. and this model works for both large and small companies.
Do you not have to pay a subscription service to play online on all consoles?