Yo! im playing a psi fighter in one campaign im in and our dm let us make a wish list so i put the ring of telekinesis with a plan to flavor it to the character. my question is could i put something on the ground like a shield and static shock my way around the world? or even my team id we find an object large enough to hold us but stay under 1000 pounds?
besides that could i rip up a chunk of earth from the ground and drop it on someone? how much damage would a 1000 pound object even do on impact? could you throw items at people and deal damage?
>could i put something on the ground like a shield and static shock my way around the world? Potentially, yeah, though you might want to talk to the DM about that one. Might be tricky to balance on it.
>even my team id we find an object large enough to hold us but stay under 1000 pounds? Remember the lifting capacity likely includes the people on the object.
>besides that could i rip up a chunk of earth from the ground and drop it on someone? Again, under DM calls. Talk to your DM about that one. However, for the "how much"...
>how much damage would a 1000 pound object even do on impact? The books don't exactly cover this one. However, you might be able to get your DM to give this a saving throw effect, with damage scaled the same as traps (there's a chart in the DMG). That's how I handled a player dropping a house on monsters once. Gives a save for half damage and the damage can be made appropriate. (This is probably Level 5-10, Deadly, due to being a heavy object dropped from a spell obtained at level 9, making it 10d10 bludgeoning, Dex save for half. Maybe take that to your DM and see how they feel.)
>could you throw items at people and deal damage? That's probably a hard no. The spell has nothing for this, and the speed you can move objects at is capped with the spell.
Talk to the DM, but perhaps commission something light that can hold all the party's hands(like a handhold on a bus/subway) It might require some Str/Con, but with the party attached to the object, lift the object with Telekinesis and now you have a party taxi. You'd need to make sure the parry total weight doesn't exceed 1k pounds though.
could i put something on the ground like a shield and static shock my way around the world?
Not really sure what you mean by "static shock my way around" but it's worth keeping in mind that telekinesis explicitly states "you can exert your will on one creature or object". It very specifically gives separate rules for moving one creature, and for moving one object, and an object with 1+ creatures on it is not one creature or object, it's an object and 1+ creatures.
Many DMs (myself included) will rule that the spell can only do what it says it does, so it will only move one creature, or one object, not an object and everything on top of it. A DM might be lenient in some circumstances and count a table with food on it as one object (rather than several), but creatures and objects are never a single object.
You can absolutely "fly" by targeting yourself, as a creature, with the spell, moving yourself using your action each turn to keep yourself aloft and move yourself up to 30 feet, albeit at the cost of being restrained. Because this option works via a contest, which only needs to be rolled if one side wants to "win", this can just automatically work (your DM might interpret this differently but it's the general principle, you only do contests if someone is trying to prevent a thing from happening). A DM might be lenient and allow you to ignore the restrained condition since you're targeting yourself.
At the very least if your DM is going to allow a creature to "ride" an object, they should ask you to make saving throws or checks every so often to remain on it without falling, and it should be more difficult the faster you're trying to move. There should be no free lunches, as this doesn't seem like an intended use for the spell because of having one target (you're on the object, sure, but only the object is moving).
I mean it's already an extremely useful spell without adding extra capabilities. If what you want is to fly around on an object, what you should be asking for is a broom of flying (one person) or a carpet of flying (3+ characters, depending upon weight).
could i put something on the ground like a shield and static shock my way around the world?
Not really sure what you mean by "static shock my way around" but it's worth keeping in mind that telekinesis explicitly defines states "you can exert your will on one creature or object". It very specifically gives separate rules for moving one creature, and for moving one object, and an object with 1+ creatures on it is not one creature or object, it's an object and 1+ creatures.
Many DMs (myself included) will rule that the spell can only do what it says it does, so it will only move one creature, or one object, not an object and everything on top of it. A DM might be lenient in some circumstances and count a table with food on it as one object (rather than several), but creatures and objects are never a single object.
You can absolutely "fly" by targeting yourself, as a creature, with the spell, moving yourself using your action each turn to keep yourself aloft and move yourself up to 30 feet, albeit at the cost of being restrained. Because this option works via a contest, which only needs to be rolled if one side wants to "win", this can just automatically work (your DM might interpret this differently but it's the general principle, you only do contests if someone is trying to prevent a thing from happening).
At the very least if your DM is going to allow a creature to "ride" an object, they should ask you to make saving throws or checks every so often to remain on it without falling. There should be no free lunches, as this doesn't seem like an intended use for the spell because of having one target (you're on the object, sure, but only the object is moving).
I mean it's already an extremely useful spell. If what you want is to fly around on an object, what you should be asking for is a broom of flying (one person) or a carpet of flying (3+ characters, depending upon weight).
those are good points but i meant mainly using the ring of telekinesis
While wearing this ring, you can cast the telekinesis spell at will, but you can target only objects that aren't being worn or carried.
While wearing this ring, you can cast the telekinesis spell at will, but you can target only objects that aren't being worn or carried.
Ah, that's my own fault then for not looking up the one thing that matters most. 😂
I completely forgot it had that limitation! In that case I'd definitely talk to your DM; moving someone on an object at low speed might be reasonable, but I do feel checks should be needed to move at full speed unless the rider is stabilising themselves somehow (e.g- holding on, maybe sitting/crouched so effectively prone, which would limit their ability to act). If it was a chair it might be easier (and more comfortable)?
While wearing this ring, you can cast the telekinesis spell at will, but you can target only objects that aren't being worn or carried.
Ah, that's my own fault then for not looking up the one thing that matters most. 😂
I completely forgot it had that limitation! In that case I'd definitely talk to your DM; moving someone on an object at low speed might be reasonable, but I do feel checks should be needed to move at full speed unless the rider is stabilising themselves somehow (e.g- holding on, maybe sitting/crouched so effectively prone, which would limit their ability to act). If it was a chair it might be easier (and more comfortable)?
i prob wont be using it in combat bc it needs an action and theres better things to do half the time. tho i may still drop stuff on people if the damage is good.
As stated above it is really up to the DM. The idea that a "raft" with people on it would not work because it is more than one object or person doesn't make sense to me. By same logic you couldn't move a bag full of coins (more than one object) or even a bag with a string securing it as that is technically two objects. If it is done just to increase travel speed or to get across a body of water of a chasm, I'd probably allow it but not as an airship in combat.
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Yo! im playing a psi fighter in one campaign im in and our dm let us make a wish list so i put the ring of telekinesis with a plan to flavor it to the character. my question is could i put something on the ground like a shield and static shock my way around the world? or even my team id we find an object large enough to hold us but stay under 1000 pounds?
besides that could i rip up a chunk of earth from the ground and drop it on someone? how much damage would a 1000 pound object even do on impact?
could you throw items at people and deal damage?
>could i put something on the ground like a shield and static shock my way around the world?
Potentially, yeah, though you might want to talk to the DM about that one. Might be tricky to balance on it.
>even my team id we find an object large enough to hold us but stay under 1000 pounds?
Remember the lifting capacity likely includes the people on the object.
>besides that could i rip up a chunk of earth from the ground and drop it on someone?
Again, under DM calls. Talk to your DM about that one. However, for the "how much"...
>how much damage would a 1000 pound object even do on impact?
The books don't exactly cover this one. However, you might be able to get your DM to give this a saving throw effect, with damage scaled the same as traps (there's a chart in the DMG). That's how I handled a player dropping a house on monsters once. Gives a save for half damage and the damage can be made appropriate. (This is probably Level 5-10, Deadly, due to being a heavy object dropped from a spell obtained at level 9, making it 10d10 bludgeoning, Dex save for half. Maybe take that to your DM and see how they feel.)
>could you throw items at people and deal damage?
That's probably a hard no. The spell has nothing for this, and the speed you can move objects at is capped with the spell.
Talk to the DM, but perhaps commission something light that can hold all the party's hands(like a handhold on a bus/subway) It might require some Str/Con, but with the party attached to the object, lift the object with Telekinesis and now you have a party taxi. You'd need to make sure the parry total weight doesn't exceed 1k pounds though.
Not really sure what you mean by "static shock my way around" but it's worth keeping in mind that telekinesis explicitly states "you can exert your will on one creature or object". It very specifically gives separate rules for moving one creature, and for moving one object, and an object with 1+ creatures on it is not one creature or object, it's an object and 1+ creatures.
Many DMs (myself included) will rule that the spell can only do what it says it does, so it will only move one creature, or one object, not an object and everything on top of it. A DM might be lenient in some circumstances and count a table with food on it as one object (rather than several), but creatures and objects are never a single object.
You can absolutely "fly" by targeting yourself, as a creature, with the spell, moving yourself using your action each turn to keep yourself aloft and move yourself up to 30 feet, albeit at the cost of being restrained. Because this option works via a contest, which only needs to be rolled if one side wants to "win", this can just automatically work (your DM might interpret this differently but it's the general principle, you only do contests if someone is trying to prevent a thing from happening). A DM might be lenient and allow you to ignore the restrained condition since you're targeting yourself.
At the very least if your DM is going to allow a creature to "ride" an object, they should ask you to make saving throws or checks every so often to remain on it without falling, and it should be more difficult the faster you're trying to move. There should be no free lunches, as this doesn't seem like an intended use for the spell because of having one target (you're on the object, sure, but only the object is moving).
I mean it's already an extremely useful spell without adding extra capabilities. If what you want is to fly around on an object, what you should be asking for is a broom of flying (one person) or a carpet of flying (3+ characters, depending upon weight).
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those are good points but i meant mainly using the ring of telekinesis
While wearing this ring, you can cast the telekinesis spell at will, but you can target only objects that aren't being worn or carried.
Ah, that's my own fault then for not looking up the one thing that matters most. 😂
I completely forgot it had that limitation! In that case I'd definitely talk to your DM; moving someone on an object at low speed might be reasonable, but I do feel checks should be needed to move at full speed unless the rider is stabilising themselves somehow (e.g- holding on, maybe sitting/crouched so effectively prone, which would limit their ability to act). If it was a chair it might be easier (and more comfortable)?
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i prob wont be using it in combat bc it needs an action and theres better things to do half the time. tho i may still drop stuff on people if the damage is good.
As stated above it is really up to the DM. The idea that a "raft" with people on it would not work because it is more than one object or person doesn't make sense to me. By same logic you couldn't move a bag full of coins (more than one object) or even a bag with a string securing it as that is technically two objects. If it is done just to increase travel speed or to get across a body of water of a chasm, I'd probably allow it but not as an airship in combat.