For Mages of High Sorcery, the book reads "Each order dedicates itself to virtues extolled by a god of magic and honors the moon its deity is associated with." Does this imply all good mages must worship Solinari, or do they just seek to honor the virtues of Solinari (e.g., service, protection)? Ignoring polytheism, can a mage of high sorcery worship another deity if desired (e.g., Habbakuk)?
They follow the tenets of the appropriate deity, but it’s not necessarily an… exclusive relationship, so to speak. They’re not locked into a single deity for all future prayers, although I doubt it’s appropriate to offer prayers to one of the other deities of magic or otherwise ignore the dictates of their particular order’s patron.
Thanks for the reply. I am trying to determine whether it is actually a god:worshipper relationship or something more agnostic (if that's the right word). Looking at the description of the Adept of the White Robes feat, it reads "You chose the moon Solinari to influence your magic, and your oath to use magic to make the world a better place has been recognized by the Order of the White Robes, granting you these benefits..." This sounds more like a bit more like a value system than worship of a deity.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive in a polytheistic setting. A group might have a deity as a patron and follow that deity’s tenets, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll hold services or otherwise perform regular acts of worship as a modern audience typically understands the term.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive in a polytheistic setting. A group might have a deity as a patron and follow that deity’s tenets, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll hold services or otherwise perform regular acts of worship as a modern audience typically understands the term.
Also, in historical polytheistic settings, people would pray/make offerings/etc. to all the gods, depending on what they wanted. I haven't done any deep reading on the subject, but I'd assume that was true even of people specifically devoted to a god. (Maybe you're a priest of Ares, but when it comes time to make an ocean voyage, you make offerings to Poseidon.)
The idea that people would explicitly follow one specific deity is an artifact of Western culture; we tend to assume that all religions work like the culturally predominant one. (In practice, not even all monotheistic religions work that way.)
Well, when it comes to polytheistic societies of Rome and Greece there were people who prayed to different gods for different favors. But there were still temples and priests dedicated to only 1 order. Take for instance a priestess of Athena or a priest of Jupiter depending on the reference. There were various sects that primarily only prayed to 1 god, or put all their devotion into 1 god. There really wasn't just 1 way they did things! But you are right, the general majority prayed to multiple gods! Egypt and surrounding areas were pretty much the same as well!
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Well, when it comes to polytheistic societies of Rome and Greece there were people who prayed to different gods for different favors. But there were still temples and priests dedicated to only 1 order. Take for instance a priestess of Athena or a priest of Jupiter depending on the reference. There were various sects that primarily only prayed to 1 god, or put all their devotion into 1 god. There really wasn't just 1 way they did things! But you are right, the general majority prayed to multiple gods! Egypt and surrounding areas were pretty much the same as well!
While you’re right in that ancient polytheistic societies had priests dedicated to a singular god, those priests didn’t solely make prayers and offerings to their patron deity alone. Like jl8e said, if a priest of Ares was about to go on a sea voyage, he’d make a sacrifice to Poseidon.
What were they? solinari, nutari, and the other one are the names of the moons. The moons give wizards their powers, but they aren't priests, and it's a selection by the wizard during their trial. Also remember, the OG books had a certain famous wizard start off as a red robed neutral wizard that turned to evil.
it's more like the moons lend their power to the wizard based on their alignment and if alignment changes, the moon they draw power from does too.
From what I understand, it's not like they get alignment specific spell lists exactly.. (at least lore wise).
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For Mages of High Sorcery, the book reads "Each order dedicates itself to virtues extolled by a god of magic and honors the moon its deity is associated with." Does this imply all good mages must worship Solinari, or do they just seek to honor the virtues of Solinari (e.g., service, protection)? Ignoring polytheism, can a mage of high sorcery worship another deity if desired (e.g., Habbakuk)?
They follow the tenets of the appropriate deity, but it’s not necessarily an… exclusive relationship, so to speak. They’re not locked into a single deity for all future prayers, although I doubt it’s appropriate to offer prayers to one of the other deities of magic or otherwise ignore the dictates of their particular order’s patron.
Thanks for the reply. I am trying to determine whether it is actually a god:worshipper relationship or something more agnostic (if that's the right word). Looking at the description of the Adept of the White Robes feat, it reads "You chose the moon Solinari to influence your magic, and your oath to use magic to make the world a better place has been recognized by the Order of the White Robes, granting you these benefits..." This sounds more like a bit more like a value system than worship of a deity.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive in a polytheistic setting. A group might have a deity as a patron and follow that deity’s tenets, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll hold services or otherwise perform regular acts of worship as a modern audience typically understands the term.
Also, in historical polytheistic settings, people would pray/make offerings/etc. to all the gods, depending on what they wanted. I haven't done any deep reading on the subject, but I'd assume that was true even of people specifically devoted to a god. (Maybe you're a priest of Ares, but when it comes time to make an ocean voyage, you make offerings to Poseidon.)
The idea that people would explicitly follow one specific deity is an artifact of Western culture; we tend to assume that all religions work like the culturally predominant one. (In practice, not even all monotheistic religions work that way.)
Well, when it comes to polytheistic societies of Rome and Greece there were people who prayed to different gods for different favors. But there were still temples and priests dedicated to only 1 order. Take for instance a priestess of Athena or a priest of Jupiter depending on the reference. There were various sects that primarily only prayed to 1 god, or put all their devotion into 1 god. There really wasn't just 1 way they did things! But you are right, the general majority prayed to multiple gods! Egypt and surrounding areas were pretty much the same as well!
I am not sure what my Spirit Animal is. But whatever that thing is, I am pretty sure it has rabies!
While you’re right in that ancient polytheistic societies had priests dedicated to a singular god, those priests didn’t solely make prayers and offerings to their patron deity alone. Like jl8e said, if a priest of Ares was about to go on a sea voyage, he’d make a sacrifice to Poseidon.
What were they? solinari, nutari, and the other one are the names of the moons. The moons give wizards their powers, but they aren't priests, and it's a selection by the wizard during their trial. Also remember, the OG books had a certain famous wizard start off as a red robed neutral wizard that turned to evil.
it's more like the moons lend their power to the wizard based on their alignment and if alignment changes, the moon they draw power from does too.
From what I understand, it's not like they get alignment specific spell lists exactly.. (at least lore wise).