I know in the previous Baldur's Gate games that Drow were still largely mistrusted and treated hostile if found on the surface and tieflings were largely mistrusted as a whole in 3rd edition but have attitudes towards these races changed as time has passed? For instance tieflings were pretty common in Baldur's Gate 3 and there was even a drow at the bank and generally most 5e modules have a pretty wide variety of characters of different races living together in civilized communities with no real racial tensions mentioned, just wondering if this is something that has changed in universe with Drow and Tieflings being more tolerated or is there still supposed to be a prejudice against these characters?
Drow tend to be feared by most people, because many Drow communities (not all) are actually pushed by Lolth into raiding settlements for slaves and whatnot, but depending on where the Drow character is, there is a chance that people will look at the Drow and just not really care, knowing that any Drow that isn't raiding at night is probably good.
Tieflings are feared for their Fiendish ancestry and there are still people who will kill babies (even their own, through some recessive gene) if it is somehow born as a Tiefling. That said, just like Drow, there's a chance people will know that they're not inherently evil.
I can't speak for every character, but people who fear one might not feat the other. Drow are feared because of the most well-known Drow community (or communities). As far as I'm aware, Tieflings don't have super well-known communities, so someone might look at a Tiefling and go "oh, a loner," or just not pass judgment, but then look at Drow and think that they need to get ready to fight. On the other hand, there are Drow gods which are more neutral and even a good one, so people with more religious knowledge might not judge a Drow immediately, but they might judge a Tiefling because of Fiendish ancestry. Hell, in BG3, there are Tieflings that react with fear if you're a Drow.
It's generally going to vary widely based on your location on the Realms. In bigger cities like Waterdeep and Luskan, people might not be as concerned because they've encountered both many times. In smaller, more isolated places, people have likely never seen a drow or tiefling before, and they're much more likely to be treated with distrust and suspicion. While the Realms is a friendlier place these days, there are still plenty of towns where the sight of a drow or tiefling would cause mass panic.
To answer the question, though, I don't think any specific in-game event has caused people to view tieflings or drow in a different light. It's mostly just WotC trying to take things in a different direction (which means little-to-no racial tension), and using the races more because, well, they're really cool.
Ah ok, so a Drow would not get turned away at the gates of Waterdeep or Baldur's Gate in the current era of the Forgotten Realms? I know in the Drizzt books he was turned away from most cities and in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 Virconia had to hide her identity or travel with a group to avoid being lynched in the street. Just wondering if a drow in the current era would face similar problems and need to find a disguise or an alternate way of entering cities or if they would allow them passage regardless of race?
It gets a little touch in the forgotten realms for Drow and tieflings. Part of that is really up to your DM ( or you if you are the DM). The vast majority of Drow are evil with the good and neutral followers of Eillistraee ( and Verhaun) being rare enough to not overturn most folks distrust/fear. If your DM wants there are not only Drow ( black skin, white hair) but could also be dark elves brown skin, brown to black hair following an epic elven high magic casting right before the end of the spell plague that converted all non demon tainted Drow to dark elves. Location will also matter. Areas with a history of Drow incursions, raids, control etc will have deep seated fear and hatred that is not going to change much even given the 100 year jump of 4e. Areas with little history of the Drow will have much weaker prejudice and might treat the dark elves as no more than a different sort of elf (so it would depend on local anti elf prejudices to a large extent). Sadly prejudices take a long time (generations) to break down even when there is clear evidence to the contrary (just look at our own world). For tieflings there is much the same problem - their physical appearance announces a demonic connection that hits deep rooted religious and social training so they will always start off being distrusted and have to build a clean “image” in a region in order to be trusted. So a tiefling Paladin or cleric of a good deity will generally be trusted far more than a tiefling rogue or warlock.
Even in cosmopolitan areas like Waterdeep, I'd imagine a Drow can expect a lot of sideways looks and being asked or hearing comments about if they're like "those Drow". Tieflings might not have the same collective cultural baggage of well documented historical antagonism, but can probably expect some strong reactions from particularly religious/superstitious types and you can expect people to be quick to point fingers their direction if they think any kind of fiend cult activity is happening in the area.
If you want the latest "official" word, look in the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide. It's got some blurbs for the state of affairs with the PHB races in the setting.
Don't think you could do a general "how the realms feel" about Drow or Tieflings. One thing to note is that WotC in the present presentation of the Realms isn't really big on pushing prior lore/history. So it's up to the DM to largely determine whether outlooks are more cosmopolitan or informed by some historical animus, etc.
Just as a popular instance outside of BG3, the recent D&D Movie Honor Among Thieves had a Tiefling character. Her backstory included being shunned by the her family and community of birth for being a tiefling but found a welcome and a community in the Emerald Enclave, and this backstory is provided via exposition dialogue, I don't believe it ever comes up again in the movie.
I don't know the demographic stats of Tieflings in the realms. I do believe that on the surface of Faerun Drow attempting to live amongst other humanoids outside the under dark seems to be a pretty rare thing. So, one could presume there may be animosity generated by histories of conflicts generations ago, but the Realms is a big and fairly dynamically changing place so if a Drow shows up somewhere they might get a second look from the watch but there are so many faction machinations afoot in the Realms it seems like folks worried about order and security are going to be more concerned with a level of intrigue a bit higher than birth origin.
That said, the adventure Out of the Abyss does include some stereotypical "bad guy" Drow, I think that adventure also provides some notes on how to integrate it and some of the Drow activity to some other adventures and the larger Realms setting.
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So, one could presume there may be animosity generated by histories of conflicts generations ago, but the Realms is a big and fairly dynamically changing place so if a Drow shows up somewhere they might get a second look from the watch but there are so many faction machinations afoot in the Realms it seems like folks worried about order and security are going to be more concerned with a level of intrigue a bit higher than birth origin.
I mean, for high level intrigue, sure. But it wouldn't exactly be shocking for the local watch to go knocking on the doors of any nearby Drow if there's a rash of break-ins or something.
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I know in the previous Baldur's Gate games that Drow were still largely mistrusted and treated hostile if found on the surface and tieflings were largely mistrusted as a whole in 3rd edition but have attitudes towards these races changed as time has passed? For instance tieflings were pretty common in Baldur's Gate 3 and there was even a drow at the bank and generally most 5e modules have a pretty wide variety of characters of different races living together in civilized communities with no real racial tensions mentioned, just wondering if this is something that has changed in universe with Drow and Tieflings being more tolerated or is there still supposed to be a prejudice against these characters?
Drow tend to be feared by most people, because many Drow communities (not all) are actually pushed by Lolth into raiding settlements for slaves and whatnot, but depending on where the Drow character is, there is a chance that people will look at the Drow and just not really care, knowing that any Drow that isn't raiding at night is probably good.
Tieflings are feared for their Fiendish ancestry and there are still people who will kill babies (even their own, through some recessive gene) if it is somehow born as a Tiefling. That said, just like Drow, there's a chance people will know that they're not inherently evil.
I can't speak for every character, but people who fear one might not feat the other. Drow are feared because of the most well-known Drow community (or communities). As far as I'm aware, Tieflings don't have super well-known communities, so someone might look at a Tiefling and go "oh, a loner," or just not pass judgment, but then look at Drow and think that they need to get ready to fight. On the other hand, there are Drow gods which are more neutral and even a good one, so people with more religious knowledge might not judge a Drow immediately, but they might judge a Tiefling because of Fiendish ancestry. Hell, in BG3, there are Tieflings that react with fear if you're a Drow.
It's generally going to vary widely based on your location on the Realms. In bigger cities like Waterdeep and Luskan, people might not be as concerned because they've encountered both many times. In smaller, more isolated places, people have likely never seen a drow or tiefling before, and they're much more likely to be treated with distrust and suspicion. While the Realms is a friendlier place these days, there are still plenty of towns where the sight of a drow or tiefling would cause mass panic.
To answer the question, though, I don't think any specific in-game event has caused people to view tieflings or drow in a different light. It's mostly just WotC trying to take things in a different direction (which means little-to-no racial tension), and using the races more because, well, they're really cool.
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Ah ok, so a Drow would not get turned away at the gates of Waterdeep or Baldur's Gate in the current era of the Forgotten Realms? I know in the Drizzt books he was turned away from most cities and in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 Virconia had to hide her identity or travel with a group to avoid being lynched in the street. Just wondering if a drow in the current era would face similar problems and need to find a disguise or an alternate way of entering cities or if they would allow them passage regardless of race?
It gets a little touch in the forgotten realms for Drow and tieflings. Part of that is really up to your DM ( or you if you are the DM). The vast majority of Drow are evil with the good and neutral followers of Eillistraee ( and Verhaun) being rare enough to not overturn most folks distrust/fear. If your DM wants there are not only Drow ( black skin, white hair) but could also be dark elves brown skin, brown to black hair following an epic elven high magic casting right before the end of the spell plague that converted all non demon tainted Drow to dark elves. Location will also matter. Areas with a history of Drow incursions, raids, control etc will have deep seated fear and hatred that is not going to change much even given the 100 year jump of 4e. Areas with little history of the Drow will have much weaker prejudice and might treat the dark elves as no more than a different sort of elf (so it would depend on local anti elf prejudices to a large extent). Sadly prejudices take a long time (generations) to break down even when there is clear evidence to the contrary (just look at our own world). For tieflings there is much the same problem - their physical appearance announces a demonic connection that hits deep rooted religious and social training so they will always start off being distrusted and have to build a clean “image” in a region in order to be trusted. So a tiefling Paladin or cleric of a good deity will generally be trusted far more than a tiefling rogue or warlock.
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Even in cosmopolitan areas like Waterdeep, I'd imagine a Drow can expect a lot of sideways looks and being asked or hearing comments about if they're like "those Drow". Tieflings might not have the same collective cultural baggage of well documented historical antagonism, but can probably expect some strong reactions from particularly religious/superstitious types and you can expect people to be quick to point fingers their direction if they think any kind of fiend cult activity is happening in the area.
If you want the latest "official" word, look in the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide. It's got some blurbs for the state of affairs with the PHB races in the setting.
Surface folk were terrified of Drow until some version made them playable race.
The Drow that were envisioned by The Creator and fleshed out by Salvatore very little resemble drow in 5e
Yup. To quote from the Order of the Stick, now they’re all Chaotic Good renegades fighting to throw off the yoke of their evil kin.
Don't think you could do a general "how the realms feel" about Drow or Tieflings. One thing to note is that WotC in the present presentation of the Realms isn't really big on pushing prior lore/history. So it's up to the DM to largely determine whether outlooks are more cosmopolitan or informed by some historical animus, etc.
Just as a popular instance outside of BG3, the recent D&D Movie Honor Among Thieves had a Tiefling character. Her backstory included being shunned by the her family and community of birth for being a tiefling but found a welcome and a community in the Emerald Enclave, and this backstory is provided via exposition dialogue, I don't believe it ever comes up again in the movie.
I don't know the demographic stats of Tieflings in the realms. I do believe that on the surface of Faerun Drow attempting to live amongst other humanoids outside the under dark seems to be a pretty rare thing. So, one could presume there may be animosity generated by histories of conflicts generations ago, but the Realms is a big and fairly dynamically changing place so if a Drow shows up somewhere they might get a second look from the watch but there are so many faction machinations afoot in the Realms it seems like folks worried about order and security are going to be more concerned with a level of intrigue a bit higher than birth origin.
That said, the adventure Out of the Abyss does include some stereotypical "bad guy" Drow, I think that adventure also provides some notes on how to integrate it and some of the Drow activity to some other adventures and the larger Realms setting.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I mean, for high level intrigue, sure. But it wouldn't exactly be shocking for the local watch to go knocking on the doors of any nearby Drow if there's a rash of break-ins or something.