Honestly tickled that they have the correct rotation on the forelimb claws in the art.

So, the lion gets a fear ability with a roar, but the T-rex didn't get the same ability with a higher DC? While Roaring like a lion is its assumed nature because all animals test one another for fear if they aren't already entirely afraid themselves. It is about dominance and letting other predators know you mean business.

So they buffed it? It can attack the same target twice now right? 

dinosaurs didn't roar like mammals do. I think the current consensus is that large theropods bellowed 

  130 million years seperate t-rex's first appearance from a crocodiles. That means if it was different it had 130 million to get there. I am also aware of the bellowing hypothesis, however I voice my complaint due to the movies version of T-rex's where he simply roars. Besides if you ever hear a small alligator or croc bellow it will nerve you. Imagine one as tall and long as a house vibrating your bones when it bellows.

My personal current rebuttal to the current Google threds is this. The low frequency sensitivity helps in two ways. First communicating a easy sound range coupled with environmental awarness through tremor sensitivity explains the brain.

Dinosaurs where first thought to be cold blooded. Than it changed in my life time, while I was child, to warm blooded. Warmed blooded is closer to mammals than the cold blooded giving this hypothesis some credit while their is literally no for sure about dino communication due to sheer lack of evidence. Ultimately it could be both because we are acutely only guessing at evaluation not explaining it. Though I'm pretty sure a challenge rating 9 is scarier than a 1.

Let's just say it... their should be a basic fear score for every monster that acts both like a puzzle and a connect 4 game. Your character pits the image of his or hers own mortality in his or hers own mind through piecing the puzzle together through input that may scare him at any time. Like if your major weapon where fire balls and you found a red dragon or a fire elemental. You know despite your usual perceived strength you've dropped in power, and then as a battle wages on your running out of healing and room to retreat. The feelings of fear rise up in any situation usually really do when our characters are closer to doom.

A man in a tank is never afraid of a man with a pistol until his circumstances change. 

I’ve noticed they have made the dinosaurs more scientifically accurate in the new book, and IRL tyrannosaurs would have likely made a low pitched growl more like a crocodile, rather than a roar.

Let me also add, when I said "roaring is an assumed nature", i meant display's of aggression. When I run dnd games this is the reason characters have to roll extra fear saves. 

Let me ask you this. how many evolutionary divergents do you think can occur over 130 million years.

The first Homo sapiens are estimated to have appeared  in Africa. Fossil evidence and DNA analysis suggest that modern humans evolved gradually, and interbreeding with other human species like Neanderthals and Denisovans occurred. 

The "first link" to the human being refers to the earliest evidence of our ancestors and the evolutionary path that led to modern humans. This includes the discovery of fossils like Homo erectus, which are considered early human ancestors, and the exploration of how human evolution branched out from common ancestors with other primates

Humans share a common ancestor with chimpanzees and other primates, with the last common ancestor living between 8 and 6 million years ago. This shared ancestry highlights the evolutionary relationships between humans and other primates. 

Alligators trace their origins back to a group of reptiles called archosaurs, which also includes dinosaurs and birds. This lineage dates back to the late Triassic period, around 230 million years ago

I bet the discovery channel wanted to give people something to talk about in a newer show because they have been telling people they don't know what dinosaurs sound like since I was a kid. But when I was a kid it was a guess between birds and alligators, no joke. This was in the 90s. They even explained mammals as an option because to little was known. And the brains over sized  low frequency detection part of a trex was an argument for the bellowing.  Here's a similar bit of info.

While we don't have definitive answers about how T-Rexes specifically built nests, scientists believe they, like other dinosaurs, would have built nests on the ground, potentially . It's also possible they may have built open nests similar to ostriches. The exact nesting methods of T-Rexes are a subject of ongoing research, and fossil evidence is limited.

"Like" It could be a bird or an alligator. Because birds, reptiles, and dinosaurs appeared from the same common ancestor. 

The T-rex shows up 130 million years after his oldest common ancestor and is half bird on a genetic level. Here's some food for thought does the size of the animal determine what kind of vocalizations it makes? In whales water was probably a bigger factor resulting in high pitches and clicks, and elaphants sound off with a roar like cry to create fear in predators and add the appearence of verility. Do you think the need to threaten predators created fiercer sounding crys, bellows, or displays of threat, and probably virility. 

Could this have evolved over a 130 million year gap? Both elephants and lions roar, though roaring is accredited as the lions sound, or in more accurate terms many big cats sound. Elephants sound off allot like a trumpet but roaring is like sounding off to. Roaring is allot of lung power forcing air out of the mouth to seem terrifying. Seals also roar but theirs doesn't sound like a lions. Bears roar to and like lions it can come out lazy like a sort of short grunt basically letting the world know they arn't afraid and are about to throw down. 

When a lion roars for an extended period, it's . The length of the roar and its intensity can convey different messages, according to the African Lion & Environmental Research Trust. 

Asserting Dominance,Locating Pride Members, Communicating Danger, Showing Strength and Power.Showing Strength and Power.

Well all that pasting changed my font and I'm not going to fix it. So ultimately what Environmental factors and behavioral factors do you think help create the sound of the t-rex? 

Let me just say bellowing alligators and cross are aquatic animals and use those vi rations to talk in the water.

However.

Several types of animals produce bellowing sounds. These include bulls and other large mammals like rhinoceroses, bison, moose, and red deer, as well as some reptiles like alligators. The bull snake also bellows and hisses as a defensive sound.

So lots of mammals and some reptiles. Now the plot thickens. 

Komodo dragons another large reptile I would advise to listen on YouTube.

hi so this is insane but all I said was that the academic consensus is that large theropods bellowed. I'm not a palaeontologist, and I assume that neither are you. this means that neither of us can meaningfully debate wether or not the paleontological consensus is wrong, nor do you need to do this to justify having a trex roar in your campaign. 

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Let me also add, when I said "roaring is an assumed nature", i meant display's of aggression. When I run dnd games this is the reason characters have to roll extra fear saves. 

Let me ask you this. how many evolutionary divergents do you think can occur over 130 million years.

The first Homo sapiens are estimated to have appeared  in Africa. Fossil evidence and DNA analysis suggest that modern humans evolved gradually, and interbreeding with other human species like Neanderthals and Denisovans occurred. 

The "first link" to the human being refers to the earliest evidence of our ancestors and the evolutionary path that led to modern humans. This includes the discovery of fossils like Homo erectus, which are considered early human ancestors, and the exploration of how human evolution branched out from common ancestors with other primates

Humans share a common ancestor with chimpanzees and other primates, with the last common ancestor living between 8 and 6 million years ago. This shared ancestry highlights the evolutionary relationships between humans and other primates. 

Alligators trace their origins back to a group of reptiles called archosaurs, which also includes dinosaurs and birds. This lineage dates back to the late Triassic period, around 230 million years ago

I bet the discovery channel wanted to give people something to talk about in a newer show because they have been telling people they don't know what dinosaurs sound like since I was a kid. But when I was a kid it was a guess between birds and alligators, no joke. This was in the 90s. They even explained mammals as an option because to little was known. And the brains over sized  low frequency detection part of a trex was an argument for the bellowing.  Here's a similar bit of info.

While we don't have definitive answers about how T-Rexes specifically built nests, scientists believe they, like other dinosaurs, would have built nests on the ground, potentially . It's also possible they may have built open nests similar to ostriches. The exact nesting methods of T-Rexes are a subject of ongoing research, and fossil evidence is limited.

"Like" It could be a bird or an alligator. Because birds, reptiles, and dinosaurs appeared from the same common ancestor. 

 

The T-rex shows up 130 million years after his oldest common ancestor and is half bird on a genetic level. Here's some food for thought does the size of the animal determine what kind of vocalizations it makes? In whales water was probably a bigger factor resulting in high pitches and clicks, and elaphants sound off with a roar like cry to create fear in predators and add the appearence of verility. Do you think the need to threaten predators created fiercer sounding crys, bellows, or displays of threat, and probably virility. 

Could this have evolved over a 130 million year gap? Both elephants and lions roar, though roaring is accredited as the lions sound, or in more accurate terms many big cats sound. Elephants sound off allot like a trumpet but roaring is like sounding off to. Roaring is allot of lung power forcing air out of the mouth to seem terrifying. Seals also roar but theirs doesn't sound like a lions. Bears roar to and like lions it can come out lazy like a sort of short grunt basically letting the world know they arn't afraid and are about to throw down. 

When a lion roars for an extended period, it's . The length of the roar and its intensity can convey different messages, according to the African Lion & Environmental Research Trust. 

Asserting Dominance,Locating Pride Members, Communicating Danger, Showing Strength and Power.Showing Strength and Power.

Well all that pasting changed my font and I'm not going to fix it. So ultimately what Environmental factors and behavioral factors do you think help create the sound of the t-rex? 

Let me just say bellowing alligators and cross are aquatic animals and use those vi rations to talk in the water.

However.

Several types of animals produce bellowing sounds. These include bulls and other large mammals like rhinoceroses, bison, moose, and red deer, as well as some reptiles like alligators. The bull snake also bellows and hisses as a defensive sound.

So lots of mammals and some reptiles. Now the plot thickens. 

Komodo dragons another large reptile I would advise to listen on YouTube.

Komodo dragons communicate primarily through body language and a variety of sounds, including . They may also use a "rumbling" sound in their throats when threatened. These sounds are used to convey different emotions and intentions, such as warning, aggression, or submission. 

 

Here's a more detailed breakdown: 

 

• Hissing:

  Komodo dragons hiss loudly when they are communicating through body language, and may also hiss as a form of intimidation.
• Growling:

  Growls can indicate a range of emotions, from friendliness to aggression, and may be used in combat.
• Roaring:

  Roaring is a loud display of power used to intimidate other dragons or to announce a victory.
• Rumbling:

  A rumbling sound in the throat can be a warning sign when the dragon is feeling threatened.
• Whimpering:

  If a dragon backs away submissively, it may produce a hissed version of a growl, sometimes described as a whimpering sound.

 This is a great post, and it's also not English

Everyone's having a conversation about whether Tyrannosaurus roared or not (From what I know, it didn't. I'm of the opinion it did something like a crocodile's growl), but I think Kalthorian's point is that Tyrannosaurus should have had some form of intimidation effect, like dragons, or as they mentioned, lions