I don't wanna be rude but like I honestly don't think getting rid of half-races or specific lineages was that bad or enough to just spit on the new species. Guess what people if you want fluff that's why we make characters and backstories for our Dungeon and Dragons games. If you want your Dwarf to come from the mountains Hobbit style then just talk to your Dungeon Master about that or make it into your backstory, also the differences between the two subspecies were so tiny and mechanically boring that it honestly was not that big of a deal and getting rid of clutter like weapon and tool proficiency makes sense not all dwarves where black and white. Not every dwarf crafted armor and gear or even knew how to use it.

Let's be honest something like Stone-Cunning got a huge buff because it does what it used to do but better (like who used this and if you did most of the time it was probably not very helpful) and remember for roleplay reasons you can just ask your Dungeon Master something like "Hey I'm a Dwarf who came from the mines can I see how the stonework is holding up or can I possibly get advantage to investigate it since I am used to living in this area and know-how so and so works?".

(Oh Darkvision also got buffed which makes sense in classic Dwarf style since they in most campaigns are known to live and work their entire lives in caves). If you wanna know where the Con, Str, or Wis buffs went, those ability scores now come from your background and you can just use the +2/+1 or +1/+1/+1 rules since those technically still work.

Also, people try to be more open-minded or read the rules (or watch the videos) before they complain because it is clear many of you really did not when it came to buffs or just logical reasons and just vomited whatever you were told or had seen online if you, really, really want to have the subspecies or half-races just homebrew it guys it's not that hard. Please no one takes my comment harshly. I don't mean it in a mean way. I'm just saying I feel like some people are incredibly exaggerating it...

Either way I hope you have some great Dungeons and Dragons or other TTRPG games whoever you are and reads this rant!

No, they weren't super distinct, but all potential for future subraces that are distinct(like the duergar) has been effectively flattened.

That is fair it kind of sucks that Duergar kind of just don't exist but also we have some older rules for using them so I guess just use those?

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Well we're clearly gonna disagree on this stuff, which is ok. Frankly there needs to be "fluff" as it's referred to, since it's not fluff it's background and lore. Sure we add to that with our characters and their backstories, but they aren't their entire people. There needs to be information that gives an idea about what their society is typically like. That way you can build yourself as a model citizen, rebel, criminal or however you fit into the picture. Now the differences between the Dwarf subraces may have been that way to you, but clearly others didn't agree. In regards to the half-races that does feel like a cope out to me, but back to Dwarves. You are right no species is black and white, but a major element of Dwarven culture is that all were trained to wield basic weapons common to them as militia. Now, personally, I hate weapon proficiencies the way they are and that includes classes getting entire classes of weapons as usable. So getting rid of that isn't exactly a problem. In regards to tools though, again within their society, everyone learned some sort of skill so gaining a tool of some kind makes sense.

Never liked the 5e version of Stone-Cunning. Making it Tremorsense while more useful mechanically doesn't feel fitting. Of course that's my opinion. Stone-Cunning would be more useful if it gave them bonuses to say passive perception on noticing hidden/secret doors and such in stone work. Set it to adding the proficiency bonus since giving advantage on passive wouldn't work. Again this is my opinion. 

Darkvision getting buffed makes a lot of sense actually, any species heavily underground or nocturnal should have a higher darkvision. As for the buffs/penalties that is something my view is torn on. I personally felt that species specific +/- stats added to the unique ways of playing them. Dwarves would get a +2CON meaning they tend to be healthier, now you make CON your weakest stat and you have various paths on what set them apart. Same with old -2CHA where you still made your CHA your highest, now you're a silver tongue among the Dwarves likely a diplomat. Obviously just examples, but this is where I get torn. I actually really like having your background alter your stats. Having the background add to the stats gives it more connection to your character as it shaped not just knowledge (skills) but body and mind (stats). Granted you could argue that's why you put your stats where you do to show that but eh, one can argue about anything.

As for this part nope I didn't watch their videos that's true. However it wouldn't have changed my opinion on it any, which is based on how I play not others opinions. While homebrew isn't hard to do, a major selling point behind 5e was the ease of play to not have to homebrew a bunch of things, I do anyways but I'm not everyone. So I am sure I can see their points behind why they did this, I do not agree with them. Especially on this not being marketed as say 5.5 since it is quite a drastic change, not just a simple update.
And now back to our regularly scheduled monster slaughter.

SwordOfNeverwinter:

What do you mean "you wouldn't have been able to do that 30 years ago"? D&D could be and was homebrewed then just as much as it can be now, if not moreso.

I too regret the changes and samification, but it's unfortunately more than just the elimination of dwarven subspecies. They also got rid of all the built-in tool, weapon, and armor proficiencies.

I like the 2024 rules overall, but this is one of several areas (along with Rangers and Divine Smite) where they screwed the pooch.

dwarves can be annoying, but also really fun.

The wonderful thing about D&D, talk to your DM and work out the depth you want. Don't let your campaign be in a box

Did someone accidentally hit a delete button?

So many of the dwarf features are too situational to be awesome compared to other species. Basically, the hp is nice and poison is common, but extra darkvision tends to be of limited advantage given so many parties are going to manage light well, and Stonecunning is only useful as a general ability if you assume the campaign has a lot of dungeon crawling. Otherwise, it's situational and by definition limited even without the "stone" qualifier.

Compared to elves, tieflings, even halflings and humans (the flexibility of matching origin feat to class is not trivial), and this looks thin to the point of looking like an active attempt to discourage using dwarves. May as well have dumpstered them with half-elves and half-orcs. I get maybe this is a result of trying to remove stereotypes w/out losing character, but this cut too deep.

At least add some profs back and/or give them the same kind of cantrip/spell access so many other species get. Even Elementalism by itself would at least add some flavor.

why don't dwarves have subraces!!!!!!!!!!!!

I REALLY need them

Dwarf Subraces

            Clearly the solution to the lack of dwarven lineages in the 2024 PHB is to treat PHB-dwarves as ‘Underhill Mining Dwarves’ and reskin orcs as ‘Overmountain Dwarves’. I know that orcs & dwarves in the same group is anathema normally but it solves two problems (the second being orcs as a non-monster race - as opposed to playable monster races – in ‘standard’ settings). 2024PHB orcs & dwarves have similar traits, even their backstories. Treated as two lineages the trait variations can be explained by ‘environmental selection’ on Dwarves underground and overground over 100s of generations.

• Backstory: Raised from the earth by their god(s) with an affinity for living & working in mines and similar extreme places & occupations, resilient explorers of the unknown underground or above, descendants of warriors against giants & underdark monsters. Dwarven youth are raised on the stories of their heroic, adventurous, far-ranging, hard living and partying, god(s) fearing ancestors and make their way in the world(s) in that vein though with natural variations by individual and clan and situation. They generally divide into two lineages Underhill Dwarves whose ancestors spent more time living underground and are survivors of the dangers of the mines & underdark, and Overmountain Dwarves whose ancestors spent more time surviving the dangers above ground to protect their homes. Many larger dwarven settlements were carved into the sides of mountains and are home to a mixture of both Underhill dwarves delving deep underground for generations, and Overmountain dwarves striking out overland for trade and adventure.
• Traits: Humanoid, speed 30ft, Darkvision 120ft
• Size (Medium): 4-5ft (Underhill, where compactness was a valued reproductive trait), or 5-6ft (Overmountain, without the selective pressure for being small to live in mine tunnels); both always thickset.
• Toughness: +1 HP (Underhill; descendants of survivors of a harsh environment), or 0 HP injury drops you to 1 HP (Overmountain; descendants of survivors of constant warfare)
• Resilience: Resistant to Poison (Underhill, from generations of survivors of black lung and bad air and other underground environmental conditions), or temporary HP & dash (Overmountain, from generations of survivors of defending their homelands against giants and other monsters in the more open spaces above ground)
• Tremorsense: Underhill only, from the survivors of generations living underground venturing or being trapped in areas of absolute darkness.

Problems Solved. And if you’re playing Adventurers League / Rules As Written, or don’t have a problem with the lack of dwarven lineages or orcs as a civilized species, then the above isn’t for you no problems. Happy Gaming.

The one who write the 2024 version just hate dwarves and love elves

It's only in the PH 2024 or the Free Rules for 2024.

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Hey look all the flavor and depth was removed. Sounds about right.

 That's what my entire family says about everything in DND now. All the races/species are the same, all the classes are the same, all the weapons are the same, etc. That's why I play with a lot of older rules. Like 4e weapons and class alignment requirements.(Paladins Lawful Good, rogues chaotic, Druids neutral, clerics same as their deity.) and Also I found gender bonuses from I think 3rd edition. Male +1 to str and con, Females +1 to cha and wis. And I mainly use 5e legacy. But I do use 5e 2024 for some feats, like heavy armor master. That's my opinion at least.

dwarfs get these languages dwarven,common

Why did they remove subraces?

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This is not rock and stone.

 Agreed. Karl would not like these changes. 

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