With the recent Cyber Monday sale, combined with a discount code, it was possible to purchase the individual books at a greater discount than you would get for purchasing them as part of the Legendary Bundle.
This is not a mistake, but it's a fairly specific set of circumstances.
During the Cyber Monday sale, it was possible to purchase a book for $19.99 instead of $29.99. With a discount code applied, that could go down to $14.99 - that's half price.
The Legendary Bundle offers a consistent 15% discount and sometimes there are discount codes that apply to it too.
When the Legendary Bundle calculates how much it costs, it deducts the amount you have spent on books (not what books you have purchased). If you spent $14.99 on a Player's Handbook, that will reduce the price of the Legendary Bundle by $14.99 (not by the $29.99 that is the standard price of the Player's Handbook).
Yes, so what this implies is that you must pay a fee for getting a previous discount. So if you want to ever get the bundle, you should have done it when it was first released because it is very unlikely that this will be a good deal for anyone and the gap will only get greater.
It would be better off saying that the 15% off costs $50, and it is the remainder of your purchase items at a 15% discount instead of what it is doing, as the current implementation doesn't scale. Only people who don't do the math will ever buy if they have ever purchased a book at greater than a 15% discount.
This seems redicilous that if you want a 15% discount you need to have not had any previous discounts to make it worth it. “Jump start” is an understatement when it contains everything.
This is just greed and praying on the ignorant.
still wondering if the 15% stacked with Black Friday and the apparent coupon stacking?
To me, I see D&D Beyond offering a variety of ways to purchase, so that customers have flexibility and choice. On top of that there are special offers and sale prices.
It seems that your complaint is that the Cyber Monday sale was too generous?
You would like to buy a house. You find out that you have options: buying a house fully furnished at a minor discount, or buying a house and then filling it with stuff yourself (an obviously cheaper option). After buying the bedroom set and living room set for a little less, you go to buy the rest of the furnished house at what you suspect would be a discount, after all you got half of the house in stuff already. Instead the house is now 50% more than if you were to buy the remainder of the furniture yourself, even though they said you can purchase the fully furnished house when ever you wanted. To add insult to injury, you're informed that you would have gotten a discount on all utility bills if you were to have purchased the furnished house and offer no other way to get this than to just pay the original full price.
My complaint is that any discount, even if it is given by the same organization, is not actually retroactively applied to the "bundle". Look at any other game distributor: Steam, GoG, etc. It's not expected for a bundle to cost more (especially with 15% off) than it would if you purchased the remainder. The other organizations all remove the items currently owned, then calculate the remaining price, and that is a customer expectation. Bundles will only be purchased if the user does not calculate it themselves, as even DNDBeyond sends out 25% off coupons regularly so this has nothing to do with Cyber Monday but with the broken concept of bundle.
Why be passive aggressive about this? I thought moderators were supposed to be hallmarks of the community.
Still wondering if the 15% discount applied to the Black Friday and/or coupon codes. If not, there is never a reason to buy the bundle.
Jerbal, apologies if my post came across as passive aggressive, it was meant as a genuine query.
I have seen a few other posts saying pretty much the same thing, but only since the Cyber Monday sale, so I was seeking to open the conversation up and gain understanding.
The Legendary Bundle really only makes sense for people who are just starting their D&D Beyond collection or for those who have purchased some content at the regular price (or maybe a couple of items at a 15% discount).
I took advantage of the Cyber Monday sale with stacking coupon code and purchased most of the content. What seems strange to me, however, is that if I purchased the 3 remaining items (at whatever price), I would have all the content, but the Legendary Bundle price for me would still be over $100 for nothing but a 15% future discount. I find such a pricing/marketing structure both odd and potentially confusing for those who have purchased content piecemeal. Perhaps more clarification is needed in the Marketplace section for how the Legendary Bundle is designed to function.
Legendary bundle = List Price of all items - 15% - what you paid on items so far.
If you bought a $30 item but got a discount and paid $15 then that purchase reduces the cost of the Legendary bundle by $15 not by the list price of the item you purchased.
If you buy a number of items individually when there is a decent discount and are now looking at purchasing the Legendary Bundle then you really want to wait until you can get a similar discount on the bundle.
I would like to point out an extreme, as I just hit it.
I now own everything on the Market, including the pre-order.
My Legendary Bundle is now $81.84, Discounted for previously purchased content (arguably increased for previously purchased content), and offers a 15% and nothing more. In order to recuperate the $81.84, I would need to spend a future $545.60 on material before I broke even.
Still confused how this can be marked as "resolved" when it is counter intuitive. Perhaps the bugzilla "won't fix"or "invalid" is a better flag?
I think it is "resolved" because it is not a bug. The bundle is 15% off the total price and reduced by the amount spent on its content. So you never have to spend more than the bundle to get the bundle and its discount.
You bought everything for less than the bundle. Congratulations, you won at capitalism. You won't get the discount, because you didn't buy the bundle, but keep doing what you did, and you won't need it.
I think it is "resolved" because it is not a bug. The bundle is 15% off the total price and reduced by the amount spent on its content. So you never have to spend more than the bundle to get the bundle and its discount.
You bought everything for less than the bundle. Congratulations, you won at capitalism. You won't get the discount, because you didn't buy the bundle, but keep doing what you did, and you won't need it.
I wish there was a way to upvote this comment.
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If I manually buy all of the items available to me, the value is $134.93. If I act now, I can instead get the bundle for $201.78.
What's going on here? Do I need to pay $70 to "secure a 15% discount"?
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D&D Beyond FoundersWith the recent Cyber Monday sale, combined with a discount code, it was possible to purchase the individual books at a greater discount than you would get for purchasing them as part of the Legendary Bundle.
This is not a mistake, but it's a fairly specific set of circumstances.
During the Cyber Monday sale, it was possible to purchase a book for $19.99 instead of $29.99. With a discount code applied, that could go down to $14.99 - that's half price.
The Legendary Bundle offers a consistent 15% discount and sometimes there are discount codes that apply to it too.
When the Legendary Bundle calculates how much it costs, it deducts the amount you have spent on books (not what books you have purchased). If you spent $14.99 on a Player's Handbook, that will reduce the price of the Legendary Bundle by $14.99 (not by the $29.99 that is the standard price of the Player's Handbook).
I hope that helps explain?
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Yes, so what this implies is that you must pay a fee for getting a previous discount. So if you want to ever get the bundle, you should have done it when it was first released because it is very unlikely that this will be a good deal for anyone and the gap will only get greater.
It would be better off saying that the 15% off costs $50, and it is the remainder of your purchase items at a 15% discount instead of what it is doing, as the current implementation doesn't scale. Only people who don't do the math will ever buy if they have ever purchased a book at greater than a 15% discount.
So if coupon codes and black Friday sales stack, would it also have stacked with a bundle for new items that were on sale?
Or you can just buy everything piecemeal as you have, when there is a discount.
Legendary bundle is good for people who want to kickstart their new Beyond account. You also get a permanent discount on all future releases.
This seems redicilous that if you want a 15% discount you need to have not had any previous discounts to make it worth it. “Jump start” is an understatement when it contains everything.
This is just greed and praying on the ignorant.
still wondering if the 15% stacked with Black Friday and the apparent coupon stacking?
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D&D Beyond FoundersCould you explain this opinion further?
To me, I see D&D Beyond offering a variety of ways to purchase, so that customers have flexibility and choice. On top of that there are special offers and sale prices.
It seems that your complaint is that the Cyber Monday sale was too generous?
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You would like to buy a house. You find out that you have options: buying a house fully furnished at a minor discount, or buying a house and then filling it with stuff yourself (an obviously cheaper option). After buying the bedroom set and living room set for a little less, you go to buy the rest of the furnished house at what you suspect would be a discount, after all you got half of the house in stuff already. Instead the house is now 50% more than if you were to buy the remainder of the furniture yourself, even though they said you can purchase the fully furnished house when ever you wanted. To add insult to injury, you're informed that you would have gotten a discount on all utility bills if you were to have purchased the furnished house and offer no other way to get this than to just pay the original full price.
My complaint is that any discount, even if it is given by the same organization, is not actually retroactively applied to the "bundle". Look at any other game distributor: Steam, GoG, etc. It's not expected for a bundle to cost more (especially with 15% off) than it would if you purchased the remainder. The other organizations all remove the items currently owned, then calculate the remaining price, and that is a customer expectation. Bundles will only be purchased if the user does not calculate it themselves, as even DNDBeyond sends out 25% off coupons regularly so this has nothing to do with Cyber Monday but with the broken concept of bundle.
Why be passive aggressive about this? I thought moderators were supposed to be hallmarks of the community.
Still wondering if the 15% discount applied to the Black Friday and/or coupon codes. If not, there is never a reason to buy the bundle.
The fact that the bundle and any book get cheaper by the amount spent on their content is evidence against greed.
Even the least optimized purchasing decisions will not have you spend more than the legendary bundle's original price, which is still 15% off.
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D&D Beyond FoundersJerbal, apologies if my post came across as passive aggressive, it was meant as a genuine query.
I have seen a few other posts saying pretty much the same thing, but only since the Cyber Monday sale, so I was seeking to open the conversation up and gain understanding.
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The Legendary Bundle really only makes sense for people who are just starting their D&D Beyond collection or for those who have purchased some content at the regular price (or maybe a couple of items at a 15% discount).
I took advantage of the Cyber Monday sale with stacking coupon code and purchased most of the content. What seems strange to me, however, is that if I purchased the 3 remaining items (at whatever price), I would have all the content, but the Legendary Bundle price for me would still be over $100 for nothing but a 15% future discount. I find such a pricing/marketing structure both odd and potentially confusing for those who have purchased content piecemeal. Perhaps more clarification is needed in the Marketplace section for how the Legendary Bundle is designed to function.
Legendary bundle = List Price of all items - 15% - what you paid on items so far.
If you bought a $30 item but got a discount and paid $15 then that purchase reduces the cost of the Legendary bundle by $15 not by the list price of the item you purchased.
If you buy a number of items individually when there is a decent discount and are now looking at purchasing the Legendary Bundle then you really want to wait until you can get a similar discount on the bundle.
I would like to point out an extreme, as I just hit it.
I now own everything on the Market, including the pre-order.
My Legendary Bundle is now $81.84, Discounted for previously purchased content (arguably increased for previously purchased content), and offers a 15% and nothing more. In order to recuperate the $81.84, I would need to spend a future $545.60 on material before I broke even.
Still confused how this can be marked as "resolved" when it is counter intuitive. Perhaps the bugzilla "won't fix"or "invalid" is a better flag?
I think it is "resolved" because it is not a bug. The bundle is 15% off the total price and reduced by the amount spent on its content. So you never have to spend more than the bundle to get the bundle and its discount.
You bought everything for less than the bundle. Congratulations, you won at capitalism. You won't get the discount, because you didn't buy the bundle, but keep doing what you did, and you won't need it.
I wish there was a way to upvote this comment.