Yeah, a nature cleric frolicking around the woods in full plate doesn't feel right to me. I changed the level one benefit to be "proficiency with the herbalism kit and two druid skills of your choice."
Yeah, a nature cleric frolicking around the woods in full plate doesn't feel right to me. I changed the level one benefit to be "proficiency with the herbalism kit and two druid skills of your choice."
They are not a druid, repeat after me, they are not a druid.
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"Where words fail, swords prevail. Where blood is spilled, my cup is filled" -Cartaphilus
"I have found the answer to the meaning of life. You ask me what the answer is? You already know what the answer to life is. You fear it more than the strike of a viper, the ravages of disease, the ire of a lover. The answer is always death. But death is a gentle mistress with a sweet embrace, and you owe her a debt of restitution. Life is not a gift, it is a loan."
Yeah, a nature cleric frolicking around the woods in full plate doesn't feel right to me. I changed the level one benefit to be "proficiency with the herbalism kit and two druid skills of your choice."
They are not a druid, repeat after me, they are not a druid.
Eh. They're a Druid for those who don't care about turning into animals but do care about turning undead.
Yeah, a nature cleric frolicking around the woods in full plate doesn't feel right to me. I changed the level one benefit to be "proficiency with the herbalism kit and two druid skills of your choice."
You are describing a druid not a nature cleric. I would compare a Nature cleric with a paladin who took the Oath of Ancients. You wouldn't take away the paladin's heavy armor proficiency? For all you know the cleric could worship a nature god that is against killing animals and would take great offense if the cleric wore animal skins (aka leather).
Barbarian, Nature Cleric, Ancient Paladin, Druid... these are all character classes that fulfill similar roles.
Saying a God doesn't care about animals or that a Druid isn't in service to god instead of a concept is drawing very black and white lines when they aren't there. Because any new god(dess) could have a different domain or ideology and flip the concept. We know the "metal armor" is a hangup from 1st edition when only Elves were druids (they weren't called that, but if you look at the spell list ALL elves were basically druids) [Watch: "record of the lodoss war" it's a great/bad anime that's a perfect recreation of 1st ed!
The Devs have even said there is no "balance" reason for Druids not to have metal armor, just diagetic call backs to previous editions.
Does anyone else find it WEIRD the "Nature Cleric" gets Heavy Armor as a proficiency...
Druids can't use metal armor (most of heavy armor), while Barbarians & Rangers are Light and Medium only.
Druids can only wear non-metal light and medium armours. I think this is because of the more primitive communion a druid has with nature.
Clerics, even nature clerics, have a communion with a god, so they do not feel that restrain.
It is a flavour thing, but it feels right to me.
Yeah, a nature cleric frolicking around the woods in full plate doesn't feel right to me. I changed the level one benefit to be "proficiency with the herbalism kit and two druid skills of your choice."
"Where words fail, swords prevail. Where blood is spilled, my cup is filled" -Cartaphilus
"I have found the answer to the meaning of life. You ask me what the answer is? You already know what the answer to life is. You fear it more than the strike of a viper, the ravages of disease, the ire of a lover. The answer is always death. But death is a gentle mistress with a sweet embrace, and you owe her a debt of restitution. Life is not a gift, it is a loan."
See that's the whole point. This is all diagetic.
A discussion about a fantasy setting.
Barbarian, Nature Cleric, Ancient Paladin, Druid... these are all character classes that fulfill similar roles.
Saying a God doesn't care about animals or that a Druid isn't in service to god instead of a concept is drawing very black and white lines when they aren't there. Because any new god(dess) could have a different domain or ideology and flip the concept.
We know the "metal armor" is a hangup from 1st edition when only Elves were druids (they weren't called that, but if you look at the spell list ALL elves were basically druids) [Watch: "record of the lodoss war" it's a great/bad anime that's a perfect recreation of 1st ed!
The Devs have even said there is no "balance" reason for Druids not to have metal armor, just diagetic call backs to previous editions.