It seems nice, you can heal yourself and your beast and any other spells that have a range of self for casting are all shared with you beast if its with in 30 feet. Yep seems nice its helpful and then you cast Conjure Woodland Beings and share it with the group in the forge so the DM can read it...the DM audable curses as she says great this sucks for me and rolls 4 failed saving throughs for her 4 casters in my rangers cnjured woodland beings10 foot space and I roll my 5 d8 and 3 of the same 4 fail ther save for my beasts woodland being and I roll 5 d6 for the beast as well. Then some melee creatures enter the woodland beings space and have to save....the spell last 10 minutes and it is self only meeting the Beast lvl 15 capstone.
As far as I can tell, Share spells will still work with scrolls. Therefore a single level dip can get a breath of options at a cost. Just buff yourself first for higher level "use a scroll" checks. 24 rangers should have guidance to reduce failure
14 rangers actually didn't require "self" spells only that self was a effected opening even more options.
As far as I can tell, Share spells will still work with scrolls. Therefore a single level dip can get a breath of options at a cost. Just buff yourself first for higher level checks. 24 rangers should have guidance to reduce failure
14 rangers actually didn't require "self" spells only that self was a target opening even more options.
So continued theme of beasmaster.... getting wizard scrolls could result in twin tiny huts. One for mounts and beasts one for the party (Or men and womens tents)
Another fun one would be blink to keep the compainion safe in a different plane on the off turn.
The language spells could be insane but I still argue 14 is a independent creature while 24 cannot act without ranger orders so scouting or spying has less potential.
So continued theme of beasmaster.... getting wizard scrolls could result in twin tiny huts. One for mounts and beasts one for the party (Or men and womens tents)
Another fun one would be blink to keep the compainion safe in a different plane on the off turn.
The language spells could be insane but I still argue 14 is a independent creature while 24 cannot act without ranger orders
Be aware that the 2024 version of Leomund's Tiny Hut ends when you cast the spell again, so while it doesn't require concentration, you still need a second caster to have a second one up at the same time.
So continued theme of beasmaster.... getting wizard scrolls could result in twin tiny huts. One for mounts and beasts one for the party (Or men and womens tents)
Another fun one would be blink to keep the compainion safe in a different plane on the off turn.
The language spells could be insane but I still argue 14 is a independent creature while 24 cannot act without ranger orders
Be aware that the 2024 version of Leomund's Tiny Hut ends when you cast the spell again, so while it doesn't require concentration, you still need a second caster to have a second one up at the same time.
No your not casting the spell again with the beasmaster. Its essentially twin self spells .one instance two sources. As long as the compainion (or you) doesn't leave the contained bubble it will still work.
So continued theme of beasmaster.... getting wizard scrolls could result in twin tiny huts. One for mounts and beasts one for the party (Or men and womens tents)
Another fun one would be blink to keep the compainion safe in a different plane on the off turn.
The language spells could be insane but I still argue 14 is a independent creature while 24 cannot act without ranger orders
Be aware that the 2024 version of Leomund's Tiny Hut ends when you cast the spell again, so while it doesn't require concentration, you still need a second caster to have a second one up at the same time.
No your not casting the spell again with the beasmaster. Its essentially twin self spells .one instance two sources. As long as the compainion (or you) doesn't leave the contained bubble it will still work.
That's definitely not how I read the intent of that feature, but I acknowledge that it's vaguely worded and open to interpretation.
It seems nice, you can heal yourself and your beast and any other spells that have a range of self for casting are all shared with you beast if its with in 30 feet. Yep seems nice its helpful and then you cast Conjure Woodland Beings and share it with the group in the forge so the DM can read it...the DM audable curses as she says great this sucks for me and rolls 4 failed saving throughs for her 4 casters in my rangers cnjured woodland beings10 foot space and I roll my 5 d8 and 3 of the same 4 fail ther save for my beasts woodland being and I roll 5 d6 for the beast as well. Then some melee creatures enter the woodland beings space and have to save....the spell last 10 minutes and it is self only meeting the Beast lvl 15 capstone.
Fun!
The best version of this is having the ranger be a small PC so it can ride the beast. First round of combat you cast conjure woodland beings and commands the beast to move to your foes and attack triggering 2 instances of conjure woodland beings damage. Have the small PC wield a lance and shield with heavy weapon master and you've now built a ridiculous gnome riding a mastiff into combat that actually deals really good damage while having a shield and advantage on mental saves.
I don't think Tiny Hut would work. The feature says, "a spell that targets yourself" and Tiny Hut doesn't target yourself; it's just centered around you. Correct me if I'm wrong.
in 2024 tiny hut literally says target self (10ft). As much as I think 2014 was actually a better game, the definitions of targets and clean mechanical language is where 2024 often succeeds.
I almost mentioned that conjure animals didn't work but I dislike the new version of "auras" rather than creatures that I assumed op was right and it was changed to a self spell.
Now, "self" spells aren't the ranger requirement but bare minimum all self spells now clearly and definably apply.
It seems nice, you can heal yourself and your beast and any other spells that have a range of self for casting are all shared with you beast if its with in 30 feet. Yep seems nice its helpful and then you cast Conjure Woodland Beings and share it with the group in the forge so the DM can read it...the DM audable curses as she says great this sucks for me and rolls 4 failed saving throughs for her 4 casters in my rangers cnjured woodland beings10 foot space and I roll my 5 d8 and 3 of the same 4 fail ther save for my beasts woodland being and I roll 5 d6 for the beast as well. Then some melee creatures enter the woodland beings space and have to save....the spell last 10 minutes and it is self only meeting the Beast lvl 15 capstone.
Fun!
(2024 or 2014 compatability)
As far as I can tell, Share spells will still work with scrolls. Therefore a single level dip can get a breath of options at a cost. Just buff yourself first for higher level "use a scroll" checks. 24 rangers should have guidance to reduce failure
14 rangers actually didn't require "self" spells only that self was a effected opening even more options.
Hadn't thought of scrolls. That is a great idea
So continued theme of beasmaster.... getting wizard scrolls could result in twin tiny huts. One for mounts and beasts one for the party (Or men and womens tents)
Another fun one would be blink to keep the compainion safe in a different plane on the off turn.
The language spells could be insane but I still argue 14 is a independent creature while 24 cannot act without ranger orders so scouting or spying has less potential.
Now I'm thinking a dip for sure! Could be fun.
Be aware that the 2024 version of Leomund's Tiny Hut ends when you cast the spell again, so while it doesn't require concentration, you still need a second caster to have a second one up at the same time.
pronouns: he/she/they
No your not casting the spell again with the beasmaster. Its essentially twin self spells .one instance two sources. As long as the compainion (or you) doesn't leave the contained bubble it will still work.
That's definitely not how I read the intent of that feature, but I acknowledge that it's vaguely worded and open to interpretation.
pronouns: he/she/they
The best version of this is having the ranger be a small PC so it can ride the beast. First round of combat you cast conjure woodland beings and commands the beast to move to your foes and attack triggering 2 instances of conjure woodland beings damage. Have the small PC wield a lance and shield with heavy weapon master and you've now built a ridiculous gnome riding a mastiff into combat that actually deals really good damage while having a shield and advantage on mental saves.
There's actually a debate if conjure woodland beings even works with shared spells.
It's a spell with a range of self. Thus it has no target. And shared spells specify that there must be a target.
DM could easily rule this doesn't work.
I don't think Tiny Hut would work. The feature says, "a spell that targets yourself" and Tiny Hut doesn't target yourself; it's just centered around you. Correct me if I'm wrong.
in 2024 tiny hut literally says target self (10ft). As much as I think 2014 was actually a better game, the definitions of targets and clean mechanical language is where 2024 often succeeds.
I almost mentioned that conjure animals didn't work but I dislike the new version of "auras" rather than creatures that I assumed op was right and it was changed to a self spell.
Now, "self" spells aren't the ranger requirement but bare minimum all self spells now clearly and definably apply.