I've been using D&D Beyond for many years, and for the past four years, I've been buying books here and using it for my campaigns. The main advantage of this site has always been the incredibly convenient character builder. It’s exactly why I bought content here—to give myself and my players access to the supplements and create unique characters. I use a virtual tabletop, but the leveling-up interface and character creation there are not intuitive and not always acesseble for players. By removing the 2014 spells and magic items from the character builder, you are undermining the usefulness of this site. I’m furious that I won’t be able to use the content I paid for.
Personally, I have nothing against 5.5; in fact, everything I’ve seen so far looks pretty good to me. But I’m not about to make changes to my campaigns overnight. I planned to wait six months to a year, buy the new books, carefully read them, and only then start gradually introducing the new elements into my worlds. Your actions are just going to make me forget about this site, cancel my subscription, and move on to other tools, which I’m sure will quickly emerge. I urge you to reconsider your decision and keep the spells and magic items as legacy content, just as you’ve done with previous updates.
Yeah, it needs to be an option per character sheet. Even if new character sheets have 2024 as the default checked, we need to be able to change it back. There will be a lot of people who won't switch over to 2024, or people who are mid campaign who will not want to make the switch, and forcing them to do so is bad business imo. Roll 20 figured out how to make it work, DnD Beyond should be able to figure it out as well.
Yeah I'm going to cancel my subscription to this site,I feel robbed. The entire reason I use this website is because it made my content easily accessible and now it's taking content I paid for and making it inconvenient
Time to send a message. If you don't like the enforced switch, cancel renewal of your paid subscription. That seems to be the only language WOTC understands.
Adding my voice to this thread. DO NOT modify my characters against my will! At this rate, I'm just downloading my characters, cancelling my subscription, and going back to paper.
Why are you replacing all the spells and magic items with the 2024 spells automatically? I'm in the middle of several campaigns and we don't want to switch these over to the new rules and just use the new rules for upcoming and future campaigns. Some of the spells or magic items are fundamental to how characters are played throughout the campaign and it's unreasonable to expect people to build out every single spell in homebrew - a very tedious process - if we want to continue to have access to the old spells and magic items.
I paid for the 2014 PHB and I should continue to have access to it. Other services that provide D&D character sheets were able to figure this out, you should as well. If this is how it is, I'm just going to download my characters from here, cancel my subscription, and either use pen and paper or switch to a different online service.
If I’m going to home brew every spell and magic item our lvl 13 campaign is currently using, I might as well do it in other free platforms, I’m paying for the integration for my players, if they’re going to take that away then Beyond is losing my subscription. My campaign was even talking about finishing our campaign early to try out 2024 content but to hell with that ide
yeah, my party is considering switching to pathfinder entirely halfway through a campaign. All of us are very much done with giving WOTC our money if this is how they treat their consumers. Prob deleting my subscription soon as I find a nice way to properly archive my current character sheets (anyone have ideas beyond just exporting them as pdfs?)
this is absolutely an outrage and goes against the spirit of the legacy content agreement!!! I will be cancelling subscription if this goes through!!!!
Just coming to this thread to voice my concern about the changes. This has a very real impact to inflight campaigns, characters, is a retrograde quality of life improvement and significantly reduces the usefulness of DND beyond as a platform.
It’s 2024 and it seems ridiculous that the most viable future option to continue to play my 5e campaigns and characters will be to switch back to paper….
Wow, how hard could it be to implement some sort of toggle for spells that show only 2014 or 2024 or both? :o
This is an incredibly lazy solution and a slap in the face for people who paid for this content. (My DM won't allow the new spells, so now I have to print them all... so why not cancel the sub and go completely analogue?)
Agreed. While some of the spell updates are good balance or QoL changes, some are just plain dumb. I certainly won't be changing from 5e to One any time soon, and when (if ever) I do make the change, I will make it all at once. It makes no sense for us as a gaming group to implement some changes but not others, and realistically, this just means we will cancel and stop using DnD Beyond and go back to manual character sheets or Roll20 character sheets.
I don't want to have to constantly look up and cross reference spells when my player asks for example how many creatures conjure food and water can feed for their party and I tell them "It should be on the spell description", but no, they have removed it on the new spell. Or they use Arcane Lock thinking it will be impenetrable from Rogues and get confused when their chest is still lock picked.
Please maintain older spells and just have a toggle option between new and legacy spells...
I hate that their stupid updates aren't working and failing to they have to hold us hostage to bleed more money from us. What's hilarious is if they were actually creative and focused on making a good product they'd have infinitely more success.
It ******* sucks a website I loved so much as ruined by capitalism and greed but I am not giving them another cent if they want to **** us over like this. I highly suggest people cancel their subscriptions. Money is the only thing they care about anyway
Yeah, I'm in the middle of multiple 5e campaigns, we aren't updating the rules, we don't plan on updating the rules anytime soon, at least for the remainder of the campaigns. So taking stuff off my character sheets, "updating" things I need to remain the same for the time being, all in an effort to force me to convert to a rule set I'm still not fully sold on yet is a real scumbag move and has me less interested then ever before in the new rule set.
If I’m going to home brew every spell and magic item our lvl 13 campaign is currently using, I might as well do it in other free platforms, I’m paying for the integration for my players, if they’re going to take that away then Beyond is losing my subscription. My campaign was even talking about finishing our campaign early to try out 2024 content but to hell with that ide
Unless the spell being homebrewed is substantially different from the original, you won't be able to share it with others.
If I’m going to home brew every spell and magic item our lvl 13 campaign is currently using, I might as well do it in other free platforms, I’m paying for the integration for my players, if they’re going to take that away then Beyond is losing my subscription. My campaign was even talking about finishing our campaign early to try out 2024 content but to hell with that ide
Unless the spell being homebrewed is substantially different from the original, you won't be able to share it with others.
You can make it available to other users who are in a campaign with you, you just can't publish it.
I’ve spent literally hundreds of dollars on 5e content. To learn that WOTC is essentially throwing it in the trash is such a betrayal. I can’t even express how frustrated this makes me. I’ve literally been scammed by my fave hobby for the last time.
I'm so mad there doing this. I will likely cancel my subscription if they don't fix this so that we can keep the legacy content easily accessible for character sheets, etc. I have new players and I'm not about to force them to learn yet another rule set, they've only just got the hang of this one! It would be so simple to just have a toggle for this. I mean what's the point of keeping the subscription going at this point? I have no interest in the new update, at least not when I'm in the middle of running a game as well as playing in others. I would have been willing to look into it once my current game was wrapped up but now not so much. I'll be cancelling my subscription going forward.
This is just another instance of them spewing falsehoods about keeping the availability for using old content. How many interviews did Jeremy Crawford do, in which he says that 5e will still be playable the way it is? WotC lies so they can make money. Cancel subscriptions and go to a better platform. DnDBeyond is just a character sheet generator. They don't even update their homebrew tools, unless its a feature added by a new release. For **** sake, feat prerequisites have never even worked properly for homebrew.
Don't fall victim to the gambler's fallacy. Just because we've invested money into DnDBeyond and WotC, that doesn't mean we have to invest more. Don't let them waste any more of your time, money, and effort.
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I've been using D&D Beyond for many years, and for the past four years, I've been buying books here and using it for my campaigns. The main advantage of this site has always been the incredibly convenient character builder. It’s exactly why I bought content here—to give myself and my players access to the supplements and create unique characters. I use a virtual tabletop, but the leveling-up interface and character creation there are not intuitive and not always acesseble for players. By removing the 2014 spells and magic items from the character builder, you are undermining the usefulness of this site. I’m furious that I won’t be able to use the content I paid for.
Personally, I have nothing against 5.5; in fact, everything I’ve seen so far looks pretty good to me. But I’m not about to make changes to my campaigns overnight. I planned to wait six months to a year, buy the new books, carefully read them, and only then start gradually introducing the new elements into my worlds. Your actions are just going to make me forget about this site, cancel my subscription, and move on to other tools, which I’m sure will quickly emerge. I urge you to reconsider your decision and keep the spells and magic items as legacy content, just as you’ve done with previous updates.
Yeah, it needs to be an option per character sheet. Even if new character sheets have 2024 as the default checked, we need to be able to change it back. There will be a lot of people who won't switch over to 2024, or people who are mid campaign who will not want to make the switch, and forcing them to do so is bad business imo. Roll 20 figured out how to make it work, DnD Beyond should be able to figure it out as well.
Yeah I'm going to cancel my subscription to this site,I feel robbed. The entire reason I use this website is because it made my content easily accessible and now it's taking content I paid for and making it inconvenient
Time to send a message. If you don't like the enforced switch, cancel renewal of your paid subscription. That seems to be the only language WOTC understands.
Adding my voice to this thread. DO NOT modify my characters against my will! At this rate, I'm just downloading my characters, cancelling my subscription, and going back to paper.
Great idea, I have an annual subscription, and I didn't think of this right away! Done!
Why are you replacing all the spells and magic items with the 2024 spells automatically? I'm in the middle of several campaigns and we don't want to switch these over to the new rules and just use the new rules for upcoming and future campaigns. Some of the spells or magic items are fundamental to how characters are played throughout the campaign and it's unreasonable to expect people to build out every single spell in homebrew - a very tedious process - if we want to continue to have access to the old spells and magic items.
I paid for the 2014 PHB and I should continue to have access to it. Other services that provide D&D character sheets were able to figure this out, you should as well. If this is how it is, I'm just going to download my characters from here, cancel my subscription, and either use pen and paper or switch to a different online service.
If I’m going to home brew every spell and magic item our lvl 13 campaign is currently using, I might as well do it in other free platforms, I’m paying for the integration for my players, if they’re going to take that away then Beyond is losing my subscription. My campaign was even talking about finishing our campaign early to try out 2024 content but to hell with that ide
yeah, my party is considering switching to pathfinder entirely halfway through a campaign. All of us are very much done with giving WOTC our money if this is how they treat their consumers. Prob deleting my subscription soon as I find a nice way to properly archive my current character sheets (anyone have ideas beyond just exporting them as pdfs?)
this is absolutely an outrage and goes against the spirit of the legacy content agreement!!! I will be cancelling subscription if this goes through!!!!
Just coming to this thread to voice my concern about the changes. This has a very real impact to inflight campaigns, characters, is a retrograde quality of life improvement and significantly reduces the usefulness of DND beyond as a platform.
It’s 2024 and it seems ridiculous that the most viable future option to continue to play my 5e campaigns and characters will be to switch back to paper….
Wow, how hard could it be to implement some sort of toggle for spells that show only 2014 or 2024 or both? :o
This is an incredibly lazy solution and a slap in the face for people who paid for this content. (My DM won't allow the new spells, so now I have to print them all... so why not cancel the sub and go completely analogue?)
Agreed. While some of the spell updates are good balance or QoL changes, some are just plain dumb. I certainly won't be changing from 5e to One any time soon, and when (if ever) I do make the change, I will make it all at once. It makes no sense for us as a gaming group to implement some changes but not others, and realistically, this just means we will cancel and stop using DnD Beyond and go back to manual character sheets or Roll20 character sheets.
I don't want to have to constantly look up and cross reference spells when my player asks for example how many creatures conjure food and water can feed for their party and I tell them "It should be on the spell description", but no, they have removed it on the new spell. Or they use Arcane Lock thinking it will be impenetrable from Rogues and get confused when their chest is still lock picked.
Please maintain older spells and just have a toggle option between new and legacy spells...
I hate that their stupid updates aren't working and failing to they have to hold us hostage to bleed more money from us. What's hilarious is if they were actually creative and focused on making a good product they'd have infinitely more success.
It ******* sucks a website I loved so much as ruined by capitalism and greed but I am not giving them another cent if they want to **** us over like this. I highly suggest people cancel their subscriptions. Money is the only thing they care about anyway
Yeah, I'm in the middle of multiple 5e campaigns, we aren't updating the rules, we don't plan on updating the rules anytime soon, at least for the remainder of the campaigns. So taking stuff off my character sheets, "updating" things I need to remain the same for the time being, all in an effort to force me to convert to a rule set I'm still not fully sold on yet is a real scumbag move and has me less interested then ever before in the new rule set.
Unless the spell being homebrewed is substantially different from the original, you won't be able to share it with others.
You can make it available to other users who are in a campaign with you, you just can't publish it.
I’ve spent literally hundreds of dollars on 5e content. To learn that WOTC is essentially throwing it in the trash is such a betrayal. I can’t even express how frustrated this makes me. I’ve literally been scammed by my fave hobby for the last time.
I'm so mad there doing this. I will likely cancel my subscription if they don't fix this so that we can keep the legacy content easily accessible for character sheets, etc. I have new players and I'm not about to force them to learn yet another rule set, they've only just got the hang of this one! It would be so simple to just have a toggle for this. I mean what's the point of keeping the subscription going at this point? I have no interest in the new update, at least not when I'm in the middle of running a game as well as playing in others. I would have been willing to look into it once my current game was wrapped up but now not so much. I'll be cancelling my subscription going forward.
This is just another instance of them spewing falsehoods about keeping the availability for using old content. How many interviews did Jeremy Crawford do, in which he says that 5e will still be playable the way it is? WotC lies so they can make money. Cancel subscriptions and go to a better platform. DnDBeyond is just a character sheet generator. They don't even update their homebrew tools, unless its a feature added by a new release. For **** sake, feat prerequisites have never even worked properly for homebrew.
Don't fall victim to the gambler's fallacy. Just because we've invested money into DnDBeyond and WotC, that doesn't mean we have to invest more. Don't let them waste any more of your time, money, and effort.