The Dnd Beyond description of the clone spell doesn't follow official source, afaik:
"This spell grows an inert duplicate of a living, **Medium** creature as a safeguard against death. "
I don't think the word medium is in the official text
... unless the November 2018 errata failed to mention the change in the 10th printing, in which case, what happens if a Small creature (e.g. gnome) tries to use the spell?
just following up on this - we have confirmed that the wording on the Clone spell on D&D Beyond is correct, as per the most recent printing of the Player's Handbook from Wizards of the Coast.
It looks like this change was missed from the PDF errata that was issued in November 2018, however most recent prints of the Player's Handbook have this wording.
This is a change since 6th print Player's Handbook - prior to that the word "medium" wasn't there.
Have you found out what this reason is yet? I had been excited about my Kobold Wizard making clones of himself later on, but with this restriction I cannot do so. I would at least like to know the reason why such restrictions have been put on smaller races
Guys really is it not that obvious they are NERFing it because people abused it and now they don’t like that, so they’re changing it to affect our own games where we have the rules to do whatever we want and they just wanna be overlords instead of letting us play our own game our own way, no disrespect intended but they need to stay out of our business. (I.E. using True polymorph to turn into a gold dragon and then using the clone spell to make a copy of yourself and when you die you are a gold dragon permanently)
I still don't understand how that concept works. If the clone was taken from flesh of a polymorphed creature, then that piece and whatever grows from it is under the effects of the polymorph spell as well. If you want to claim it's no longer under the effect of true polymorph then it would revert back at whatever time that happens. The most I could see anyone arguing for is that it gets to be counted as its own instance of the True Polymorph spell so that if the original creature has the polymorph dispelled, the clone growing would still retain its True Polymorph nature, but it would be just as susceptible to being dispelled as the original the clone was grown from.
The Dnd Beyond description of the clone spell doesn't follow official source, afaik:
"This spell grows an inert duplicate of a living, **Medium** creature as a safeguard against death. "
I don't think the word medium is in the official text
... unless the November 2018 errata failed to mention the change in the 10th printing, in which case, what happens if a Small creature (e.g. gnome) tries to use the spell?
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I don't see anything in the errata thread about clone.
Could be that "medium" was removed in an errata and DDB missed it.
Thanks for the report - I shall follow up with staff.
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just following up on this - we have confirmed that the wording on the Clone spell on D&D Beyond is correct, as per the most recent printing of the Player's Handbook from Wizards of the Coast.
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You can no longer clone Gnomes, Halflings, Goblins or Kobolds. I guess the pesky kobold wizard clones were too troublesome.
Yup, seems so. I don't know why it changed, but I expect that there's a good reason.
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Its just fascinating tbh.
Was this change missing from the errata thread or did I just miss it? Or has the clone spell always been racist in 5e?
It looks like this change was missed from the PDF errata that was issued in November 2018, however most recent prints of the Player's Handbook have this wording.
This is a change since 6th print Player's Handbook - prior to that the word "medium" wasn't there.
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Seems like a really odd change. I suppose there's no chance of finding out the reasoning behind it?
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Have you found out what this reason is yet? I had been excited about my Kobold Wizard making clones of himself later on, but with this restriction I cannot do so. I would at least like to know the reason why such restrictions have been put on smaller races
You would probably be better off asking WotC rather than DDB. Maybe tweet Jeremy Crawford?
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Guys really is it not that obvious they are NERFing it because people abused it and now they don’t like that, so they’re changing it to affect our own games where we have the rules to do whatever we want and they just wanna be overlords instead of letting us play our own game our own way, no disrespect intended but they need to stay out of our business. (I.E. using True polymorph to turn into a gold dragon and then using the clone spell to make a copy of yourself and when you die you are a gold dragon permanently)
Your thread necromancy is a good opportunity to note that Clone was errata'd again just last year to no longer restrict it to Medium creatures.
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I still don't understand how that concept works. If the clone was taken from flesh of a polymorphed creature, then that piece and whatever grows from it is under the effects of the polymorph spell as well. If you want to claim it's no longer under the effect of true polymorph then it would revert back at whatever time that happens. The most I could see anyone arguing for is that it gets to be counted as its own instance of the True Polymorph spell so that if the original creature has the polymorph dispelled, the clone growing would still retain its True Polymorph nature, but it would be just as susceptible to being dispelled as the original the clone was grown from.
Do you know which errata? That took ages to fix.
So OOC could you enlarge to a medium sized creature and then clone?
It's in this post about the 12/13/2021 errata: https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/rules-game-mechanics/8760-official-wizards-of-the-coast-errata?comment=21
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