This implementation isn't based on trust, but on the fact that D&D Beyond has to respect the rules as printed. If the rules say "Only X can use Y unless you homebrew otherwise", D&D Beyond will only make Y available to X unless you homebrew. The site always respects the rules of the game as designed by WotC, but still provides the tools to tailor the game to the experience you want.
As was stated earlier in the thread, this just isn't true. I can go right now and make a Centaur Bladesinger or Changeling Battlerager without having to touch the homebrew section of the site. Both of those specify in the book that they are usually limited to elves and dwarves respectively but that the DM can chose to let others take up the mantle. The exact same thing that EGtW says about Dunamancy spells. It seems silly to take something that the book itself says that the DM can choose to allow and lock it away and force us to go through extra work and steps, which aren't especially user friendly in their clarity as is, when they could just allow all spellcasting classes access to it and rely on DMs to arbitrate their individual tables.
This implementation isn't based on trust, but on the fact that D&D Beyond has to respect the rules as printed. If the rules say "Only X can use Y unless you homebrew otherwise", D&D Beyond will only make Y available to X unless you homebrew. The site always respects the rules of the game as designed by WotC, but still provides the tools to tailor the game to the experience you want.
As was stated earlier in the thread, this just isn't true. I can go right now and make a Centaur Bladesinger or Changeling Battlerager without having to touch the homebrew section of the site. Both of those specify in the book that they are usually limited to elves and dwarves respectively but that the DM can chose to let others take up the mantle. The exact same thing that EGtW says about Dunamancy spells. It seems silly to take something that the book itself says that the DM can choose to allow and lock it away and force us to go through extra work and steps, which aren't especially user friendly in their clarity as is, when they could just allow all spellcasting classes access to it and rely on DMs to arbitrate their individual tables.
I suspect the actual issue is an implementation one.
Presumably, DDB has no way of restricting subclass options by race from a technical standpoint, in the way they have the system set up right now; by default, any character of the specified class can choose any subclass for that class. Until SCAG, no 5e subclass had racial restrictions, so DDB likely didn't think to set the system up in such a way as to make it possible to enforce such restrictions. Thus, DDB making it possible for those outside the specified races to pick those subclasses is probably not an active choice/decision by DDB; it's probably just not worth it to DDB to add functionality to enforce those restrictions.
In contrast, in DDB's current implementation, spells are only ever accessible to those classes and subclasses whose spell lists they're included on - they had it set up that way from the start, since spell access has always been restricted by spell lists since the start of 5e. (Note: the encode thoughts cantrip from Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica technically shouldn't appear on any spell list, in that the book doesn't specify any spell lists that it's on; the only way to learn the spell is from the Dimir Operative background. However, DDB lists it on the wizard spell list, ostensibly because the system expects all official spells to be on at least one spell list.) Thus, in DDB's implementation, the new dunamancy spells from Explorer's Guide to Wildemount are only on the spell lists of one or both of the new subclasses, because that is what the book specifies. DDB presumably hasn't currently implemented any way for characters to just directly ignore the books' spell list restrictions (without homebrewing a feat or a copy of the spell or whatever). It may or may not be worth it to them to do so now that there's more of a desire for it, given the very narrow availability of the new spells as given by the book.
(That said, again, discussion of how/whether DDB should handle those spell list restrictions for the dunamancy spells should be split off to a new thread... Please, mods?)
I found a typo I think Under "The Founding" it says "... from the boundless inspiration the of the protean gods." I think it is meant to read "... from the boundless inspiration of the protean gods." Appears to have an extra "the".
i cant seem to figure out how to create a feat to use the new spells every time i do they never show up. this process is very confusing and frustrating. i did try to do the other method but my subclass is u.a. and doesn't work. if anyone knows of a way to do this easily please let me know
i cant seem to figure out how to create a feat to use the new spells every time i do they never show up. this process is very confusing and frustrating. i did try to do the other method but my subclass is u.a. and doesn't work. if anyone knows of a way to do this easily please let me know
Are you using an archived UA subclass, or one that's still active/available? If it's the former, I suspect homebrew stuff can't reference archived UA (including adding a homebrew copy of a spell to a UA subclass's spell list)... But as long as it's not the UA artificer class, you could make a homebrew copy of the spell and add it to the spell list of your class as a whole (instead of your UA subclass).
I have purchased the options for the subclasses and the spells and after creating a new graviturgy wizard I was unable to select the new spells while in the character sheet. If I go to edit the entire character page. I cam choose from the new spells, but not from the actual character sheet. Anyone else have this problem?
Character creation issue: When building a Chronurgy wizard, the Dunamancy spells labelled Graviturgy do not show up at all as possible to learn (example: magnify gravity is not in the list of spells that can be added). The same occurs when building a Graviturgy wizard, but with Chronurgy-spells such as gift of alacrity). Is this intended? It feels like it should be possible to learn the spells, if only through finding scrolls.
This is intended design; some dunamancy spells are only available to the chronurgist, some are only available to the graviturgist, and some are available to both. None are, by RAW, available to non-dunamancy subclasses
Not sure if this has been addressed already but I tried having one of my players add the Ring of Temporal Salvation to their equipment, but it does not appear. Shared content is activated for this book and I can search for the ring and add it for characters I made, but my players can not. Any resolution for this?
Not sure if this has been addressed already but I tried having one of my players add the Ring of Temporal Salvation to their equipment, but it does not appear. Shared content is activated for this book and I can search for the ring and add it for characters I made, but my players can not. Any resolution for this?
Does your player have Critical Role content turned on for their character? If not they won't be able to see the item even if sharing is activated.
As was stated earlier in the thread, this just isn't true. I can go right now and make a Centaur Bladesinger or Changeling Battlerager without having to touch the homebrew section of the site. Both of those specify in the book that they are usually limited to elves and dwarves respectively but that the DM can chose to let others take up the mantle. The exact same thing that EGtW says about Dunamancy spells. It seems silly to take something that the book itself says that the DM can choose to allow and lock it away and force us to go through extra work and steps, which aren't especially user friendly in their clarity as is, when they could just allow all spellcasting classes access to it and rely on DMs to arbitrate their individual tables.
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ModeratorI suspect the actual issue is an implementation one.
Presumably, DDB has no way of restricting subclass options by race from a technical standpoint, in the way they have the system set up right now; by default, any character of the specified class can choose any subclass for that class. Until SCAG, no 5e subclass had racial restrictions, so DDB likely didn't think to set the system up in such a way as to make it possible to enforce such restrictions. Thus, DDB making it possible for those outside the specified races to pick those subclasses is probably not an active choice/decision by DDB; it's probably just not worth it to DDB to add functionality to enforce those restrictions.
In contrast, in DDB's current implementation, spells are only ever accessible to those classes and subclasses whose spell lists they're included on - they had it set up that way from the start, since spell access has always been restricted by spell lists since the start of 5e. (Note: the encode thoughts cantrip from Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica technically shouldn't appear on any spell list, in that the book doesn't specify any spell lists that it's on; the only way to learn the spell is from the Dimir Operative background. However, DDB lists it on the wizard spell list, ostensibly because the system expects all official spells to be on at least one spell list.) Thus, in DDB's implementation, the new dunamancy spells from Explorer's Guide to Wildemount are only on the spell lists of one or both of the new subclasses, because that is what the book specifies. DDB presumably hasn't currently implemented any way for characters to just directly ignore the books' spell list restrictions (without homebrewing a feat or a copy of the spell or whatever). It may or may not be worth it to them to do so now that there's more of a desire for it, given the very narrow availability of the new spells as given by the book.
There's a related feature request here: https://dndbeyond.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360014601414-Add-non-class-spells-to-a-character
(That said, again, discussion of how/whether DDB should handle those spell list restrictions for the dunamancy spells should be split off to a new thread... Please, mods?)
I purchased the subclasses for wildmount and i do not have access to them for my character
You need to make sure you've turned on the slider for Critical Role content on the Home section of the character editor.
Mega Yahtzee Thread:
Highest 41: brocker2001 (#11,285).
Yahtzee of 2's: Emmber (#36,161).
Lowest 9: JoeltheWalrus (#312), Emmber (#12,505) and Dertinus (#20,953).
I found a typo I think Under "The Founding" it says "... from the boundless inspiration the of the protean gods." I think it is meant to read "... from the boundless inspiration of the protean gods." Appears to have an extra "the".
I purchased character options individually, but they don't appear in my character builder. This includes subraces, subclasses, and spells.
Did you turn on Critical Role content from the Home section of the character editor?
Mega Yahtzee Thread:
Highest 41: brocker2001 (#11,285).
Yahtzee of 2's: Emmber (#36,161).
Lowest 9: JoeltheWalrus (#312), Emmber (#12,505) and Dertinus (#20,953).
Thanks!
Now I can get through the quarantine with chronomagic.
i cant seem to figure out how to create a feat to use the new spells every time i do they never show up. this process is very confusing and frustrating. i did try to do the other method but my subclass is u.a. and doesn't work. if anyone knows of a way to do this easily please let me know
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ModeratorAre you using an archived UA subclass, or one that's still active/available? If it's the former, I suspect homebrew stuff can't reference archived UA (including adding a homebrew copy of a spell to a UA subclass's spell list)... But as long as it's not the UA artificer class, you could make a homebrew copy of the spell and add it to the spell list of your class as a whole (instead of your UA subclass).
its the onomancy subclass, i ended up making an item that would allow them but i will try that in the morning thank you for the suggestion.
Thanks for the response!
I have purchased the options for the subclasses and the spells and after creating a new graviturgy wizard I was unable to select the new spells while in the character sheet. If I go to edit the entire character page. I cam choose from the new spells, but not from the actual character sheet. Anyone else have this problem?
Character creation issue: When building a Chronurgy wizard, the Dunamancy spells labelled Graviturgy do not show up at all as possible to learn (example: magnify gravity is not in the list of spells that can be added). The same occurs when building a Graviturgy wizard, but with Chronurgy-spells such as gift of alacrity). Is this intended? It feels like it should be possible to learn the spells, if only through finding scrolls.
This is intended design; some dunamancy spells are only available to the chronurgist, some are only available to the graviturgist, and some are available to both. None are, by RAW, available to non-dunamancy subclasses
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hmm. odd. thanks though!
I preordered the book, but it wont show up in my mobile app..
Not sure if this has been addressed already but I tried having one of my players add the Ring of Temporal Salvation to their equipment, but it does not appear. Shared content is activated for this book and I can search for the ring and add it for characters I made, but my players can not. Any resolution for this?
Does your player have Critical Role content turned on for their character? If not they won't be able to see the item even if sharing is activated.
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