We've all been wanting it for, well forever. The support and want for more settings and systems that are unique with neat changes and fixes that still are 5e. We understood that it wasn't possible because of the arrangement of companies, but now it feels like that would be very easy to solve with everyone now clearly benefiting. The Tome of Beast Series, the Monster Manual Expanded, Arora, and so many more have brilliant adaptations and new ways for players to experience the beauty that is 5e. Here's hoping you take the dive and fully grow this library. With roll20 having not just a way to actually play on a battle map but also an expansive 3rd party library it is in my opinion the penultimate time to make the call and become at the very least the place for D&D books regardless of whose idea the monster was if not the place to play D&D with hopefully your own battle map system; but that's a discussion for another thread.
Look. If there are and they haven't told us, it is because they can't tell us. Most likely they don't have any plans in this regard, especially this quickly after the acquisition (they are likely still sorting out paperwork for their own licences, let alone looking at others).
I do not see them allowing it. It simply is not worth the hassle and risk of having a third party taint your brand. If Wizards has not knocked on your door and ask to officially use your IP, it is not going to appear on Beyond. And that is assuming they have finished sorting out all other priorities, which they have not. If they are not even going to implement UA on Beyond, they are not going to implement third party stuff.
If you want a more flexible digital toolset, you may want to stick with VTTs like Fantasy Grounds and Roll20, not Beyond.
I think GammaRay has it right, DDB users are still looking for more complete integration of the official books into the toolset, I think UA returning is more possible now since they'll presumably be closer coordination ... and that really cool dump of Spelljammer monsters available "only here on DDB" I think is more telling of the future than bringing 3rd party presses online here.
I don't think looking at the agnostic VTTs is a way to encourage D&D WotC to do anything. When I've seen Roll20 used on streams or at stores, unless Roll20 is a sponsor, I hear more burns about Roll20 than not (and even in stores where some sort of Roll20 rep is "in the house" they deflect heat). I believe Coleville is running 4e on Fantasy Grounds but to get that working sounds like an epic labor of love that was sort of a full time job to get working.
I think looking at what BadEye is doing with Paizo and Pathfinder digitally is probably the best benchmark or standard D&D likely sees themselves racing with. They want high quality digital functionality, and they can only trust that with titles developed in house by the D&D studio. Tools are available to port in 3rd party material that can comport to D&D Beyond (a lot can't like 3rd party classes) but I don't see Hasbro/Wotc going into business with third party presses beyond the way you currently have seen (Kobold Press helped develop what we now call Tyranny of Dragons, the CR team developed a product as an official D&D book, and did it again, etc). I think WotC likes the current arrangement between itself and SRD licensees.
think about it just a second... its obvious that now that they are within WotC that there wont be any third party content ! WotC isn't gonna sell others books, even beyond had troubles trying to get third parties without getting sued or problematic. just look at the whole Legend of Runeterra debacle ! why would a company sell other companies books ?
if there was a time where Beyond could, it would of been before the merge, right now... i dont believe its possible.
you definitely wont see the non-official critical role books here. and you definitely won't see dark sun here. but, if WotC ever liscense the stuff, there is a chance... but that would mean liscencing d&d to a third party and then getting an official book. you definitely won't be seeing pathfinder, a direct competitor of WotC here as an exemple !
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think about it just a second... its obvious that now that they are within WotC that there wont be any third party content ! WotC isn't gonna sell others books, even beyond had troubles trying to get third parties without getting sued or problematic. just look at the whole Legend of Runeterra debacle ! why would a company sell other companies books ?
if there was a time where Beyond could, it would of been before the merge, right now... i dont believe its possible.
you definitely wont see the non-official critical role books here. and you definitely won't see dark sun here. but, if WotC ever liscense the stuff, there is a chance... but that would mean liscencing d&d to a third party and then getting an official book. you definitely won't be seeing pathfinder, a direct competitor of WotC here as an exemple !
Half a second.
Licensing and/or a cut.
Have a nice day.
DnD Beyond/WotC, add support for major 3rd party producers or get homebrew classes in. I'm unlikely to keep my sub long term without it, the service doesn't do what I need it to.
WotC liscensing ? you are kidding right ? they have never done that. the only thing they are liscensing is MTG and D&D, their own stuff. they liscence it to others.
now critical role did things with WotC. but you can realise quite fast that critical role do not sell those books. they have no right to those books, they belong to WotC. how many producers do you know will want to give WotC stuff and get nothing in return ? there is a reason why there is so many company for D&D sstuff and there is a reason why nobody of those company do things with WotC.
so you saying liscensing and cut... you dont know shit apparently. but its ok, continu to think WotC will share with anyone.
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WotC liscensing ? you are kidding right ? they have never done that. the only thing they are liscensing is MTG and D&D, their own stuff. they liscence it to others.
now critical role did things with WotC. but you can realise quite fast that critical role do not sell those books. they have no right to those books, they belong to WotC. how many producers do you know will want to give WotC stuff and get nothing in return ? there is a reason why there is so many company for D&D sstuff and there is a reason why nobody of those company do things with WotC.
so you saying liscensing and cut... you dont know shit apparently. but its ok, continu to think WotC will share with anyone.
WotC liscensing ? you are kidding right ? they have never done that. the only thing they are liscensing is MTG and D&D, their own stuff. they liscence it to others.
now critical role did things with WotC. but you can realise quite fast that critical role do not sell those books. they have no right to those books, they belong to WotC. how many producers do you know will want to give WotC stuff and get nothing in return ? there is a reason why there is so many company for D&D sstuff and there is a reason why nobody of those company do things with WotC.
so you saying liscensing and cut... you dont know shit apparently. but its ok, continu to think WotC will share with anyone.
Well, I know how to conduct a civil conversation.
Can you let me know which one of the 50+ DND computer games that have come out over the years have been developed by WotC? How about the DND comics that have been published? What about Movies? The Cartoon?
Then could you have a moment of reflection (whilst you browse this formerly 3rd party website who were digital content providors for WotC) over your manners.
so as discussed further up this thread, any plans we have will be communicated as and when we have things locked down and the relevant information to release.
Would I personally love for us to host high quality 3rd party content on D&D Beyond? Yes, absolutely.
WotC liscensing ? you are kidding right ? they have never done that. the only thing they are liscensing is MTG and D&D, their own stuff. they liscence it to others.
now critical role did things with WotC. but you can realise quite fast that critical role do not sell those books. they have no right to those books, they belong to WotC. how many producers do you know will want to give WotC stuff and get nothing in return ? there is a reason why there is so many company for D&D sstuff and there is a reason why nobody of those company do things with WotC.
so you saying liscensing and cut... you dont know shit apparently. but its ok, continu to think WotC will share with anyone.
WotC does indeed license other properties to use within their products, and licenses their products out to be used in other properties
explain to me then davyd... if its liscensing, then those companies can sell their own product right ? then why isn't the rick and morty book unavaillable elsewhere ? why is the stranger thing book unavaillable elsewhere ? why is critical role, having their own store, not selling the books they do for WotC ?
let me tell you how it works... WotC is not liscensing others to use their content... they are bbuying liscence to make content. there is a major difference between the two. as for MTG, that is not D&D. and again, you dont see MTG in say runeterra cad game. you don't see MTG in the pokemon trading card game either. what you see is the inverse... other content becoming part of MTG. that is not WotC giving liscense, that is WotC buying liscences. so they could sell more content.
selling liscenses like the movie or the animated thing, is normal for them, as they dont do that kind of thing, they dont have department. making those companies able to sell their stuff. WizKids, GaleForce 9 and a few others have bought liscenses to make stuff for WotC. selling means the liscense go away and then the buyer can do whatever it want with it, selling it even. Buying liscences for WotC is more rentableable as they can control who sell it, aka just themselves...
what you consider as them having given liscences... is the inverse, they bought the liscences. hence why critical role cannot sell their own book on their website. hence hwy critical role had to redo their own updated book of taldorei, cause they couldn't sell the original since it was belonging to greenronin. its the same thing here, yes they bought liscenes for stranger thing and rick and morty... but can they buy it from say MCDM to get the book here ? MCDM will refuse, because it means they can't make money out of it here.
you guys should know that liscensing is not as easy as just selling it. the whole debacle between disney and sony right now over spiderman is a proof of that.
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There's also the DM's Guild content, which WotC endorses and gets a cut of sales from.
I wouldn't expect the DDB team to actually code support for all those things, but it would be nice if, say, the DMsGuild had a way for creators to package their own content packs to put up on DDB, with a disclaimer that DDB/Wizards aren't responsible for any bugs that using those third party packages introduces.
There's also the DM's Guild content, which WotC endorses and gets a cut of sales from.
I wouldn't expect the DDB team to actually code support for all those things, but it would be nice if, say, the DMsGuild had a way for creators to package their own content packs to put up on DDB, with a disclaimer that DDB/Wizards aren't responsible for any bugs that using those third party packages introduces.
DM's Guild I think already does that for Foundry and or Fantasy Grounds and I imagine a DDB toolkit would be simpler (though I think we're looking at the Homebrew Toolset). Though there are things, specific example new character classes, that would be unable to implement. I don't think many SRD designers actually work with the constraints of DDB in mind, which makes it a problem for folks wanting to see Grim Hollow or whatever plugged in. On the other hand, I've yet to have a problem implementing stuff from Hit Point Press in the Homebrew maker. So imagine the traffic and grief that occurs in theese forum spaces over say the Aberrant Mind and its spell list issue, and amplify that by all the DDB users who won't bother seeing the explainer and getting bent about their heavily backed Ghostfire title not working 100% in DDB.
Unsubbed 6-8 months ago or something...Just took the free month to have a look (missed the whole OGL debacle... now resolved?)
So..... Still nothing doing eh? Haven't managed to sort something with any of the third party manufacurers to get their content digitally added to this site?
DnD Beyond could become the Steam of digital tabletop content if they would just implement and sell 3rd party content directly in here and take a platform percentage.
Everyone would make more money and it would be super convenient for DM's and players.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong...
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We've all been wanting it for, well forever. The support and want for more settings and systems that are unique with neat changes and fixes that still are 5e. We understood that it wasn't possible because of the arrangement of companies, but now it feels like that would be very easy to solve with everyone now clearly benefiting. The Tome of Beast Series, the Monster Manual Expanded, Arora, and so many more have brilliant adaptations and new ways for players to experience the beauty that is 5e. Here's hoping you take the dive and fully grow this library. With roll20 having not just a way to actually play on a battle map but also an expansive 3rd party library it is in my opinion the penultimate time to make the call and become at the very least the place for D&D books regardless of whose idea the monster was if not the place to play D&D with hopefully your own battle map system; but that's a discussion for another thread.
Look. If there are and they haven't told us, it is because they can't tell us. Most likely they don't have any plans in this regard, especially this quickly after the acquisition (they are likely still sorting out paperwork for their own licences, let alone looking at others).
If it's the penultimate time to make the call, it's not the ultimate time to make the call. Why would WotC want to suboptimally make the call?
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
I do not see them allowing it. It simply is not worth the hassle and risk of having a third party taint your brand. If Wizards has not knocked on your door and ask to officially use your IP, it is not going to appear on Beyond. And that is assuming they have finished sorting out all other priorities, which they have not. If they are not even going to implement UA on Beyond, they are not going to implement third party stuff.
If you want a more flexible digital toolset, you may want to stick with VTTs like Fantasy Grounds and Roll20, not Beyond.
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I think GammaRay has it right, DDB users are still looking for more complete integration of the official books into the toolset, I think UA returning is more possible now since they'll presumably be closer coordination ... and that really cool dump of Spelljammer monsters available "only here on DDB" I think is more telling of the future than bringing 3rd party presses online here.
I don't think looking at the agnostic VTTs is a way to encourage D&D WotC to do anything. When I've seen Roll20 used on streams or at stores, unless Roll20 is a sponsor, I hear more burns about Roll20 than not (and even in stores where some sort of Roll20 rep is "in the house" they deflect heat). I believe Coleville is running 4e on Fantasy Grounds but to get that working sounds like an epic labor of love that was sort of a full time job to get working.
I think looking at what BadEye is doing with Paizo and Pathfinder digitally is probably the best benchmark or standard D&D likely sees themselves racing with. They want high quality digital functionality, and they can only trust that with titles developed in house by the D&D studio. Tools are available to port in 3rd party material that can comport to D&D Beyond (a lot can't like 3rd party classes) but I don't see Hasbro/Wotc going into business with third party presses beyond the way you currently have seen (Kobold Press helped develop what we now call Tyranny of Dragons, the CR team developed a product as an official D&D book, and did it again, etc). I think WotC likes the current arrangement between itself and SRD licensees.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
think about it just a second... its obvious that now that they are within WotC that there wont be any third party content !
WotC isn't gonna sell others books, even beyond had troubles trying to get third parties without getting sued or problematic. just look at the whole Legend of Runeterra debacle !
why would a company sell other companies books ?
if there was a time where Beyond could, it would of been before the merge, right now... i dont believe its possible.
you definitely wont see the non-official critical role books here. and you definitely won't see dark sun here.
but, if WotC ever liscense the stuff, there is a chance... but that would mean liscencing d&d to a third party and then getting an official book.
you definitely won't be seeing pathfinder, a direct competitor of WotC here as an exemple !
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Half a second.
Licensing and/or a cut.
Have a nice day.
DnD Beyond/WotC, add support for major 3rd party producers or get homebrew classes in. I'm unlikely to keep my sub long term without it, the service doesn't do what I need it to.
Cheers
I second the idea. We the clients need more. At least make full homebrew class and items possibles.
WotC liscensing ? you are kidding right ?
they have never done that. the only thing they are liscensing is MTG and D&D, their own stuff. they liscence it to others.
now critical role did things with WotC. but you can realise quite fast that critical role do not sell those books. they have no right to those books, they belong to WotC.
how many producers do you know will want to give WotC stuff and get nothing in return ? there is a reason why there is so many company for D&D sstuff and there is a reason why nobody of those company do things with WotC.
so you saying liscensing and cut... you dont know shit apparently.
but its ok, continu to think WotC will share with anyone.
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Likes to create stuff.
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WotC does indeed license other properties to use within their products, and licenses their products out to be used in other properties
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Well, I know how to conduct a civil conversation.
Can you let me know which one of the 50+ DND computer games that have come out over the years have been developed by WotC? How about the DND comics that have been published? What about Movies? The Cartoon?
Then could you have a moment of reflection (whilst you browse this formerly 3rd party website who were digital content providors for WotC) over your manners.
Cheers
Heya folks,
so as discussed further up this thread, any plans we have will be communicated as and when we have things locked down and the relevant information to release.
Would I personally love for us to host high quality 3rd party content on D&D Beyond? Yes, absolutely.
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explain to me then davyd... if its liscensing, then those companies can sell their own product right ?
then why isn't the rick and morty book unavaillable elsewhere ? why is the stranger thing book unavaillable elsewhere ?
why is critical role, having their own store, not selling the books they do for WotC ?
let me tell you how it works...
WotC is not liscensing others to use their content... they are bbuying liscence to make content. there is a major difference between the two.
as for MTG, that is not D&D. and again, you dont see MTG in say runeterra cad game. you don't see MTG in the pokemon trading card game either. what you see is the inverse... other content becoming part of MTG. that is not WotC giving liscense, that is WotC buying liscences. so they could sell more content.
selling liscenses like the movie or the animated thing, is normal for them, as they dont do that kind of thing, they dont have department. making those companies able to sell their stuff.
WizKids, GaleForce 9 and a few others have bought liscenses to make stuff for WotC. selling means the liscense go away and then the buyer can do whatever it want with it, selling it even. Buying liscences for WotC is more rentableable as they can control who sell it, aka just themselves...
what you consider as them having given liscences... is the inverse, they bought the liscences.
hence why critical role cannot sell their own book on their website. hence hwy critical role had to redo their own updated book of taldorei, cause they couldn't sell the original since it was belonging to greenronin. its the same thing here, yes they bought liscenes for stranger thing and rick and morty... but can they buy it from say MCDM to get the book here ? MCDM will refuse, because it means they can't make money out of it here.
you guys should know that liscensing is not as easy as just selling it.
the whole debacle between disney and sony right now over spiderman is a proof of that.
DM of two gaming groups.
Likes to create stuff.
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There's also the DM's Guild content, which WotC endorses and gets a cut of sales from.
I wouldn't expect the DDB team to actually code support for all those things, but it would be nice if, say, the DMsGuild had a way for creators to package their own content packs to put up on DDB, with a disclaimer that DDB/Wizards aren't responsible for any bugs that using those third party packages introduces.
DM's Guild I think already does that for Foundry and or Fantasy Grounds and I imagine a DDB toolkit would be simpler (though I think we're looking at the Homebrew Toolset). Though there are things, specific example new character classes, that would be unable to implement. I don't think many SRD designers actually work with the constraints of DDB in mind, which makes it a problem for folks wanting to see Grim Hollow or whatever plugged in. On the other hand, I've yet to have a problem implementing stuff from Hit Point Press in the Homebrew maker. So imagine the traffic and grief that occurs in theese forum spaces over say the Aberrant Mind and its spell list issue, and amplify that by all the DDB users who won't bother seeing the explainer and getting bent about their heavily backed Ghostfire title not working 100% in DDB.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Still no movement on this?
Unsubbed 6-8 months ago or something...Just took the free month to have a look (missed the whole OGL debacle... now resolved?)
So..... Still nothing doing eh? Haven't managed to sort something with any of the third party manufacurers to get their content digitally added to this site?
That Sub probably not gonna last.
DnD Beyond could become the Steam of digital tabletop content if they would just implement and sell 3rd party content directly in here and take a platform percentage.
Everyone would make more money and it would be super convenient for DM's and players.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong...