We need a way to filter out 2024 content as a default, please. Additionally, we need a way to determine if a module supports 2014 or if it's purely 2024.
We need a way to filter out 2024 content as a default, please. Additionally, we need a way to determine if a module supports 2014 or if it's purely 2024.
It'll only go so far (as in you'll still see some 2024 tooltips, such as the Conditions listing both versions with 2014 being labeled Legacy), but if you uncheck Core Rules in the character builder, it turns off the 2024 PHB, MM, and DMG content. Leave 2014 Core Rules on and you can still use the builder for those classes.
We need a way to filter out 2024 content as a default, please. Additionally, we need a way to determine if a module supports 2014 or if it's purely 2024.
The marketplace indicates it where stuff is only for 2014.
A way to completely filter content per campaign would be great! So my players dont get confused anymore with all the options and settings when they make their characters
A way to completely filter content per campaign would be great! So my players dont get confused anymore with all the options and settings when they make their characters
I tryed this and even if I turn of the core rules thingy some of the things show up wrong... like grappling that is an action u can take.. and that is just one i found so far since i was planning to grapple....
2024 that shows under action on the character sheet.. Grapple. The target must succeed on a Str./Dex. (it chooses which) saving throw (DC = 8 + Prof. Bonus + Str.) or it has the Grappled condition.
vs
2014 rules that should be default if u pick a 2014 class.... you try to seize the target by making a grapple check instead of an attack roll: a Strength (Athletics) check contested by the target’s Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check (the target chooses the ability to use). You succeed automatically if the target is incapacitated.
This is really annoying since we are going to have new players and they dont know that what is showen is wrong compeared to what ruleset we are playing with....
I know they are pushing the 2024 rules big time and want people to use them but dont force us...
We need a way to filter out 2024 content as a default, please. Additionally, we need a way to determine if a module supports 2014 or if it's purely 2024.
It'll only go so far (as in you'll still see some 2024 tooltips, such as the Conditions listing both versions with 2014 being labeled Legacy), but if you uncheck Core Rules in the character builder, it turns off the 2024 PHB, MM, and DMG content. Leave 2014 Core Rules on and you can still use the builder for those classes.
I tryed this and even if I turn of the core rules thingy some of the things show up wrong... like grappling that is an action u can take.. and that is just one i found so far since i was planning to grapple....
2024 that shows under action on the character sheet.. Grapple. The target must succeed on a Str./Dex. (it chooses which) saving throw (DC = 8 + Prof. Bonus + Str.) or it has the Grappled condition.
vs
2014 rules that should be default if u pick a 2014 class.... you try to seize the target by making a grapple check instead of an attack roll: a Strength (Athletics) check contested by the target’s Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check (the target chooses the ability to use). You succeed automatically if the target is incapacitated.
This is really annoying since we are going to have new players and they dont know that what is showen is wrong compeared to what ruleset we are playing with....
I know they are pushing the 2024 rules big time and want people to use them but dont force us...
I would like it if they just stopped trying to push 2024. The only people who like it like anything that with dragon ampersand on it.
I would like it if they just stopped trying to push 2024. The only people who like it like anything that with dragon ampersand on it.
a) If they're going to stop pushing anything, it's 2014. They tried, and people pushed back. They're not dropping their new product for a 10 year old one. If you're looking for a better website, there's plenty of other places that do it correctly, like Roll20, and other dedicated character generator sites. WotC is a business, and thanks to capitalism, growth is what shareholders want. The only way to make them change course would be everyone abandoning D&D Beyond because of the 2024 ruleset.
b) The fact that almost every content creator and actual play, as well as a large percentage of the community are switching over, indicates that this is the way the community is going. Even content creators who pushed back against 2014 are moving "once their current games complete". Because not a huge difference in system, and many of the things that caused friction in 2014 were ironed out. Other elements are arguably worse, but 2014 got the same (actually worse) complaints compared to 3.5. (No-one is looking at 4).
Ultimately, the business is going to take their site where they want to go. You are free to use pen and paper to build your characters, and the 2014 books are not affected by the 2024 books.
Casting negative aspersions on people who follow the updated books is not going to solve any problems, and probably lose you some people who would otherwise agree on your points.
I would like it if they just stopped trying to push 2024. The only people who like it like anything that with dragon ampersand on it.
a) If they're going to stop pushing anything, it's 2014. They tried, and people pushed back. They're not dropping their new product for a 10 year old one. If you're looking for a better website, there's plenty of other places that do it correctly, like Roll20, and other dedicated character generator sites. WotC is a business, and thanks to capitalism, growth is what shareholders want. The only way to make them change course would be everyone abandoning D&D Beyond because of the 2024 ruleset.
b) The fact that almost every content creator and actual play, as well as a large percentage of the community are switching over, indicates that this is the way the community is going. Even content creators who pushed back against 2014 are moving "once their current games complete". Because not a huge difference in system, and many of the things that caused friction in 2014 were ironed out. Other elements are arguably worse, but 2014 got the same (actually worse) complaints compared to 3.5. (No-one is looking at 4).
Ultimately, the business is going to take their site where they want to go. You are free to use pen and paper to build your characters, and the 2014 books are not affected by the 2024 books.
Casting negative aspersions on people who follow the updated books is not going to solve any problems, and probably lose you some people who would otherwise agree on your points.
A) That doesn't make sense. If people keep pushing back against 2024 and demanding 2014 remains, then that's the market telling WotC what they actually want. They absolutely can drop their new product, because it's happened before. That's why 2024 is commonly compared to 4e.
B) The large creators can indicate whatever they're paid to, but 2014 is still in higher usage. Nothing that caused the friction has been ironed out, people just stopped paying attention to it. Paladins were ruined, Hexblades are awful, every class getting subclass at 3 makes no sense (particularly for Clerics and Warlocks), swapping from "race" to "species" is dehumanizing, half-elves are MIA (last I checked), race has been given a backseat to Backgrounds, lore has been thrown aside to allow for much of this nonsense, there are now more broken spell interactions than before... It's objectively a net negative.
The business should ultimately go in the direction the money goes. If rumors and leaks are to be believed, the actual usage of 2024 compared to 2014 content is staggering, so it's moreso a matter of "Will they actually listen?" And considering their track record, I'm concerned that they may end up just driving themselves into the ground rather than addressing their shortcomings.
I don't mince words when it comes to sycophantic behavior. I don't accept console fanboys defending price hikes when it comes to video game discussion, and I don't accept WotC fanboys defending objectively bad revisions here, either. Nothing significant has changed since the inception of 2024 except time has passed- enough time for WotC to "convince" creators to switch to 2024. Considering the company has previously banned shops from holding MTG tournaments because of memes and sent the Pinkertons to harass a customer who received product early, it's frankly naive to think that the creators just suddenly started liking 2024 all on their own. Hats off to Dungeon Dudes, though, who openly declared that they still play 2014 and will continue to do so.
We need a way to filter out 2024 content as a default, please. Additionally, we need a way to determine if a module supports 2014 or if it's purely 2024.
It'll only go so far (as in you'll still see some 2024 tooltips, such as the Conditions listing both versions with 2014 being labeled Legacy), but if you uncheck Core Rules in the character builder, it turns off the 2024 PHB, MM, and DMG content. Leave 2014 Core Rules on and you can still use the builder for those classes.
The marketplace indicates it where stuff is only for 2014.
https://marketplace.dndbeyond.com/settings/explorers-guide-to-wildemount?pid=SRC-00059
It's supposed to be all backwards compatible with 2014 and 2024 if it's not indicated otherwise.
A way to completely filter content per campaign would be great! So my players dont get confused anymore with all the options and settings when they make their characters
https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/d-d-beyond-feedback/228737-campaign-access-restrictions-or-why-im-never
That's over in this thread
I tryed this and even if I turn of the core rules thingy some of the things show up wrong... like grappling that is an action u can take.. and that is just one i found so far since i was planning to grapple....
2024 that shows under action on the character sheet..
Grapple. The target must succeed on a Str./Dex. (it chooses which) saving throw (DC = 8 + Prof. Bonus + Str.) or it has the Grappled condition.
vs
2014 rules that should be default if u pick a 2014 class....
you try to seize the target by making a grapple check instead of an attack roll: a Strength (Athletics) check contested by the target’s Strength (Athletics) or Dexterity (Acrobatics) check (the target chooses the ability to use). You succeed automatically if the target is incapacitated.
This is really annoying since we are going to have new players and they dont know that what is showen is wrong compeared to what ruleset we are playing with....
I know they are pushing the 2024 rules big time and want people to use them but dont force us...
Fantastic, thank you.
I would like it if they just stopped trying to push 2024. The only people who like it like anything that with dragon ampersand on it.
a) If they're going to stop pushing anything, it's 2014. They tried, and people pushed back. They're not dropping their new product for a 10 year old one. If you're looking for a better website, there's plenty of other places that do it correctly, like Roll20, and other dedicated character generator sites. WotC is a business, and thanks to capitalism, growth is what shareholders want. The only way to make them change course would be everyone abandoning D&D Beyond because of the 2024 ruleset.
b) The fact that almost every content creator and actual play, as well as a large percentage of the community are switching over, indicates that this is the way the community is going. Even content creators who pushed back against 2014 are moving "once their current games complete". Because not a huge difference in system, and many of the things that caused friction in 2014 were ironed out. Other elements are arguably worse, but 2014 got the same (actually worse) complaints compared to 3.5. (No-one is looking at 4).
Ultimately, the business is going to take their site where they want to go. You are free to use pen and paper to build your characters, and the 2014 books are not affected by the 2024 books.
Casting negative aspersions on people who follow the updated books is not going to solve any problems, and probably lose you some people who would otherwise agree on your points.
A) That doesn't make sense. If people keep pushing back against 2024 and demanding 2014 remains, then that's the market telling WotC what they actually want. They absolutely can drop their new product, because it's happened before. That's why 2024 is commonly compared to 4e.
B) The large creators can indicate whatever they're paid to, but 2014 is still in higher usage. Nothing that caused the friction has been ironed out, people just stopped paying attention to it. Paladins were ruined, Hexblades are awful, every class getting subclass at 3 makes no sense (particularly for Clerics and Warlocks), swapping from "race" to "species" is dehumanizing, half-elves are MIA (last I checked), race has been given a backseat to Backgrounds, lore has been thrown aside to allow for much of this nonsense, there are now more broken spell interactions than before... It's objectively a net negative.
The business should ultimately go in the direction the money goes. If rumors and leaks are to be believed, the actual usage of 2024 compared to 2014 content is staggering, so it's moreso a matter of "Will they actually listen?" And considering their track record, I'm concerned that they may end up just driving themselves into the ground rather than addressing their shortcomings.
I don't mince words when it comes to sycophantic behavior. I don't accept console fanboys defending price hikes when it comes to video game discussion, and I don't accept WotC fanboys defending objectively bad revisions here, either. Nothing significant has changed since the inception of 2024 except time has passed- enough time for WotC to "convince" creators to switch to 2024. Considering the company has previously banned shops from holding MTG tournaments because of memes and sent the Pinkertons to harass a customer who received product early, it's frankly naive to think that the creators just suddenly started liking 2024 all on their own. Hats off to Dungeon Dudes, though, who openly declared that they still play 2014 and will continue to do so.