I stumbled on this thread trying to fix an older account, which I could not do and had to create a new account, but what you state is very un-true.
Having been in IT security for nearly twenty years, your claim that Google is more secure is laughable and completely untrue.
A truly secure method for DDB would be a username, password and token (authenticator) login method; that is what corporate environments have been moving towards for the past decade. While Google can support that, a Google login is not intrinsically more secure. In fact when I created my account on here (despite having MFA enabled, with biometrics on my google accounts) it allowed creation and login without that (yes, I know exactly why it allowed it, it is a point).
Integrating with Google & Apple is not a security minded decision, but a money one, as those companies make money from data (and have for a very long time).
Could not have said it better. Also been working in IT Adminstration and the idea that we would hand over access control for our company's infrastructure or data to a 3rd party company cart blanch is absolutely insane. Not only is it NOT that helpful in the long run, it is also less secure. You also become the product and not the customer.
I get wanting to provide that for people whom WANT it, but you should at least provide your basic username / password combo combined with a basic 3rd party Authenticator app (Google Authenticator / Authy / Microsoft Authenticator / etc)
Doing that would actively show a great deal of respect towards your user base. Whom I would say are likely to be more Computer savvy and smarter than your average joe.
I made a new google account just for DnDBeyond solely because I don't want every account I make all linked together. Your whole system assumes that since users are dumb, we shouldn't allow them to do x. That's the user's fault, not yours. Don't make this harder for everyone else because one person can't remember more than "Cookie3000!" for a password anywhere and refuses to use a password manager. Plus there are growing privacy concerns with using 1 login for everything online. Let me have a basic login and a 2FA token, like basically every thing else does (Twitch, Google, Twitter, etc).
Well, this is a terrible and lazy decision. Trying to sign up my daughter for a D&D Beyond account with her Google account and get this:
"Can't access this service. This service is unavailable for Google Workspace for Education users who are under 18 and children under 13 (or the age of consent in your country)."
Well, this is a terrible and lazy decision. Trying to sign up my daughter for a D&D Beyond account with her Google account and get this:
"Can't access this service. This service is unavailable for Google Workspace for Education users who are under 18 and children under 13 (or the age of consent in your country)."
Cool way to get younger kids into D&D!
So make them a regular gmail and use that. Y'know like the other kids on here do?
The issue is the Google Workspace for Education , which is not the same as general Google accounts.
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No, the issue is D&D Beyond's inability for people to make an account outside being reliant on 3rd party logins. Using Google or Apple authentication is fine as an option, but it is asinine to pretend it is an optimal as the sole solution.
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I stumbled on this thread trying to fix an older account, which I could not do and had to create a new account, but what you state is very un-true.
Having been in IT security for nearly twenty years, your claim that Google is more secure is laughable and completely untrue.
A truly secure method for DDB would be a username, password and token (authenticator) login method; that is what corporate environments have been moving towards for the past decade. While Google can support that, a Google login is not intrinsically more secure. In fact when I created my account on here (despite having MFA enabled, with biometrics on my google accounts) it allowed creation and login without that (yes, I know exactly why it allowed it, it is a point).
Integrating with Google & Apple is not a security minded decision, but a money one, as those companies make money from data (and have for a very long time).
Could not have said it better. Also been working in IT Adminstration and the idea that we would hand over access control for our company's infrastructure or data to a 3rd party company cart blanch is absolutely insane. Not only is it NOT that helpful in the long run, it is also less secure. You also become the product and not the customer.
I get wanting to provide that for people whom WANT it, but you should at least provide your basic username / password combo combined with a basic 3rd party Authenticator app (Google Authenticator / Authy / Microsoft Authenticator / etc)
Doing that would actively show a great deal of respect towards your user base. Whom I would say are likely to be more Computer savvy and smarter than your average joe.
I made a new google account just for DnDBeyond solely because I don't want every account I make all linked together. Your whole system assumes that since users are dumb, we shouldn't allow them to do x. That's the user's fault, not yours. Don't make this harder for everyone else because one person can't remember more than "Cookie3000!" for a password anywhere and refuses to use a password manager. Plus there are growing privacy concerns with using 1 login for everything online. Let me have a basic login and a 2FA token, like basically every thing else does (Twitch, Google, Twitter, etc).
Well, this is a terrible and lazy decision. Trying to sign up my daughter for a D&D Beyond account with her Google account and get this:
"Can't access this service. This service is unavailable for Google Workspace for Education users who are under 18 and children under 13 (or the age of consent in your country)."
Cool way to get younger kids into D&D!
So make them a regular gmail and use that. Y'know like the other kids on here do?
The issue is the Google Workspace for Education , which is not the same as general Google accounts.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
No, the issue is D&D Beyond's inability for people to make an account outside being reliant on 3rd party logins. Using Google or Apple authentication is fine as an option, but it is asinine to pretend it is an optimal as the sole solution.