The new OGL (OGL 1.1) is a slap in the face to the D&D community and a betrayal of the original intent (and promise) of the original OGL.
Unless WotC backs off of it's current position, I plan on migrating all my games to a different system and terminating my subscription to D&DB. It's heartbreaking to think, but I have no intention of supporting a company that exercises in this kind of over-reach against the community of players, developers, writers, and DMs that have made the game the success it is today.
I literally own everything WotC has published for DnD5e - even the stuff that is of questionable quality - and prefer the content made third party in many cases. My interest in 5e was only because of the amazing community out there. I would have gone with a completely different TTRPG when I returned to gaming a couple years ago had it not been for the content of people like Critical Role, Acquisitions Inc., Dungeon Dudes, Matt Covill, How to Be a Great GM, and many other contributors. To NOT recognize that they are the driving force behind your product's success and popularity is unforgivable.
I will be watching, very carefully, for a change in position from WotC... and if I don't see one, I'll be voting with my feet... and my wallet.
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The new OGL (OGL 1.1) is a slap in the face to the D&D community and a betrayal of the original intent (and promise) of the original OGL.
Unless WotC backs off of it's current position, I plan on migrating all my games to a different system and terminating my subscription to D&DB. It's heartbreaking to think, but I have no intention of supporting a company that exercises in this kind of over-reach against the community of players, developers, writers, and DMs that have made the game the success it is today.
I literally own everything WotC has published for DnD5e - even the stuff that is of questionable quality - and prefer the content made third party in many cases. My interest in 5e was only because of the amazing community out there. I would have gone with a completely different TTRPG when I returned to gaming a couple years ago had it not been for the content of people like Critical Role, Acquisitions Inc., Dungeon Dudes, Matt Covill, How to Be a Great GM, and many other contributors. To NOT recognize that they are the driving force behind your product's success and popularity is unforgivable.
I will be watching, very carefully, for a change in position from WotC... and if I don't see one, I'll be voting with my feet... and my wallet.
Unless they change it and go back to their original policy and say 'Sorry we didn't realize how big a deal it would be, we promise to leave it exactly as-is from here on out' - I'm just going to find another TTRPG system or make my own. I already make enough of my own homebrew content to do it, it's not like it's actual rocket science.
The fact that they're trying to change their policy so that they own my art, my content that I made for D&D is simply gutting as a creator. I have a half-finished 80's mall campaign that I was planning on putting together this summer and putting online for free; I even have the character art, player tokens, maps and enemies all drawn out, I just needed to finish the text that went along with it all ~ now if I put it out there using the D&D rules I'm supposed to put some special mark on it that flags it down as something that Wizards of the Coast could just steal for themselves, and I'm just SOL? What bullshittery is that - I'm both not surprised at all because this is where we're at in Mega Greedy 2023, and terribly surprised because it just goes against the grain of what D&D has represented to me for so long.
Even if they walk back the worst of this, how do we know they won't slowly slip it in over time, revising it bit by bit until it's just as absurd as this version? It's the whole slippery slope - they've decided to coat the whole thing in grease with releasing this, now I know that they're considering it and it's on the table. It's just a matter of time before D&D is just as hamfisted as every other IP, acting like fanart and fanmade content is somehow a negative rather than the FREE ADVERTISING that it actually is. What damned idiots.
I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
#UPDATE 2023.01.12
After today's leak I've changed my mind.
I had an annual subscription anyway (paid at last november), so I have plenty of time to figure out, what to do when the subsciption ends.
If cancellation rate is their quick way of measurement... then let's have it.
The methodology of your poll is flawed - the editorial contained in the “no” option introduces bias to the poll and is going to dissuade folks who might vote “no” for reasons other than what you have forcibly ascribed to them from voting. All of that skews your results and shows you are less concerned with getting valid answers and more with proselytising.
Personally, I will not be unsubscribing. I don’t make decisions on mere conjecture and, even if it turns out to have some merit, that likely will not limit my or my players’ preference for D&D over other systems.
Will you people stop getting so worked up about this?? All these are are rumors. Rumors. Rumors don’t mean anything. Stop attacking WotC until we have all the facts.
Personally, I won't be making ANY firm decisions until the company itself has formally released something. As we stand, we have rumors (strongly supported by circumstantial evidence) and guesses. I have seen people mention, from the legal field, that such over-the-top opening drafts are standard form in some circles. I have seen other companies "leak" information for free and widespread public opinion, since rumors and controversy draw a LOT more response than open polls. In short, I have seen a lot of guessing and supposing and nothing official or legally verified. Until the formal announcement is made with details, I will be watching.
Anyone pulling the plug immediately isn't doing anything to help anyone (including 3rd party developers) as you're only adding to the drama without any verified facts to support it. Mind you if it all ends up being true, I will likely be among those who end my "evolution" of D&D with 5E. All the physical books and materials I have will work as long as I look after them.
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Talk to your Players.Talk to your DM. If more people used this advice, there would be 24.74% fewer threads on Tactics, Rules and DM discussions.
And also, what the hell is boycotting WotC gonna do? It’s not like they’re gonna change anything. Oh, no!! Some random user on the nerdiest social media is gonna boycott us! And another is gonna “create his own TTRPG!! What are we gonna do?
Right. Because people who make up the sweet-spot of their revenue generation have no influence on their decisions at all... If you don't voice your displeasure with the direction a company takes, they can take it with impunity.
Take a look at the recent reversals on licensing directions from companies like Flimora as an example. Social media and the voice of the user base CAN make a difference.
Incidentally, I have a Masters in Marketing and have spent the last 30 years working in consumer retail and eCommerce... trust me. It matters.
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I appreciate what you're saying and agree. I'm NOT going to pull the plug UNTIL I see the final OGL (mind you, there's strong corroborating evidence).
If you read the language I used, I state that this is based on the rumors/leaks being correct and WotC continuing on it's current course of action.
I'm not advocating pulling the plug until WotC makes the plans official. HOWEVER, if we wait on expressing our dissatisfaction until the decision is MADE, then WotC cannot calculate the potential impact of their decision.
This is foreshadowing. IF they do this, THEN we do that...
Cheers.
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The methodology of your poll is flawed - the editorial contained in the “no” option introduces bias to the poll and is going to dissuade folks who might vote “no” for reasons other than what you have forcibly ascribed to them from voting. All of that skews your results and shows you are less concerned with getting valid answers and more with proselytising.
Personally, I will not be unsubscribing. I don’t make decisions on mere conjecture and, even if it turns out to have some merit, that likely will not limit my or my players’ preference for D&D over other systems.
I understand and would like to change the language but it doesn't appear that I can. I regret not leaving the editorial comments out - but thought they would provide context when I originally wrote them. I appreciate your observation and agree I shouldn't have included them. If you know how I might be able to correct this, please let me know.
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Will you people stop getting so worked up about this?? All these are are rumors. Rumors. Rumors don’t mean anything. Stop attacking WotC until we have all the facts.
Yeah, how dare these people have an opinion on the topic that differs from yours. The absolute gall of these people!
And also, what the hell is boycotting WotC gonna do? It’s not like they’re gonna change anything. Oh, no!! Some random user on the nerdiest social media is gonna boycott us! And another is gonna “create his own TTRPG!! What are we gonna do?
Speaking of getting worked up. You know, complaining about other people complaining is STILL complaining. No one is forcing you to read these threads.
I appreciate the support. I'm not trying to get people "riled up" other than to initiate some data to which WotC can view as a cautionary tale about the possible impact of their leaked decision.
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I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
Valid.
However, I wonder, over time, won't the absence and disappearance of 3rd party content have an equally negative impact on your players overall? How long do you think before WotC removes the "share" component" in it's content... considering it's turn-about on the original OGL?
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If everyone boycots WoTC then their revenue dries up and they have to change things.
4e had no OGL and the lack of 3rd party content was one of the reasons it was a failure so they opened it up again in 5e.
Things are a little different now, when 4e came our most people who were playing D&D had 3e or 3.5 in books and could continue playing without providing further revenue to WoTC now a lot of players are reliant on subscription services and will have to chose whether to play without those services (likely to limit gameplay),switch to another RPG or contuinue to support WoTC. One of the big draws of D&D is the amout of 3rd party content. If, as rumoured, the OGL means that very few content creators will be willing to produce 3rd party D&D content then other systems become more attractive.
All I’m saying is that this shit is taking over the forums, and that these are just rumors. You are twisting my words and intentions.
I'm sorry - Dndlover3. I'm not trying to twist anything, and I hope you realize that I'm trying to be respectful. I'm only bringing a counter-point to the conversation. If this sounded confrontational, I do apologize. That wasn't the intent.
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If everyone boycots WoTC then their revenue dries up and they have to change things.
4e had no OGL and the lack of 3rd party content was one of the reasons it was a failure so they opened it up again in 5e.
Things are a little different now, when 4e came our most people who were playing D&D had 3e or 3.5 in books and could continue playing without providing further revenue to WoTC now a lot of players are reliant on subscription services and will have to chose whether to play without those services (likely to limit gameplay),switch to another RPG or contuinue to support WoTC. One of the big draws of D&D is the amout of 3rd party content. If, as rumoured, the OGL means that very few content creators will be willing to produce 3rd party D&D content then other systems become more attractive.
Precisely my point. Thank you. I agree.
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I mean, DnD Beyond has never been the place providing support for folks seriously invested in 3rd Party resources. Yes, a lot of people me included can make due with homebrew particularly those publishers that smartly make stuff portable into DDB, but also see "Why can't we homebrew new classes" threads ad infinitum for pugilists, ill riggers, etc.
DDB is a tool I use to support my current D&D Games. I enjoy my current D&D Games enough that I've been very slow to adopt new official content over the past year+ and will be very much wait and see regarding whatever One D&D Becomes before adopting it. I also support a number of 3rd party creators through product purchases, kickstarters and patreons. I also play a lot of other games with a similar variety of tools. I'm not going to abandon a tool that is perfectly compatible with the way I currently play. If the tool changes in a way that the tool itself frustrates the way I want to play, I move on.
I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
Valid.
However, I wonder, over time, won't the absence and disappearance of 3rd party content have an equally negative impact on your players overall? How long do you think before WotC removes the "share" component" in it's content... considering it's turn-about on the original OGL?
if your not using it no, and if you are, there are easy ways to either homebrew it in currently,though it does hurt your players and you for them to remove it. and removing sharing from its content? it will not likely do that as there have been several research polls done showing dms are the ones to usually buy stuff for their groups, and removing stuff like that from the game wiont stop folk from just buying the books physically and playing like that, or making google sheets or using varous other ways to get around it. theyll just stop using dndbeyond if you remove sharing, so wotc probs wont do that
The new OGL (OGL 1.1) is a slap in the face to the D&D community and a betrayal of the original intent (and promise) of the original OGL.
Unless WotC backs off of it's current position, I plan on migrating all my games to a different system and terminating my subscription to D&DB. It's heartbreaking to think, but I have no intention of supporting a company that exercises in this kind of over-reach against the community of players, developers, writers, and DMs that have made the game the success it is today.
I literally own everything WotC has published for DnD5e - even the stuff that is of questionable quality - and prefer the content made third party in many cases. My interest in 5e was only because of the amazing community out there. I would have gone with a completely different TTRPG when I returned to gaming a couple years ago had it not been for the content of people like Critical Role, Acquisitions Inc., Dungeon Dudes, Matt Covill, How to Be a Great GM, and many other contributors. To NOT recognize that they are the driving force behind your product's success and popularity is unforgivable.
I will be watching, very carefully, for a change in position from WotC... and if I don't see one, I'll be voting with my feet... and my wallet.
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Hell yes!
Peace be with you friend.
Unless they change it and go back to their original policy and say 'Sorry we didn't realize how big a deal it would be, we promise to leave it exactly as-is from here on out' - I'm just going to find another TTRPG system or make my own. I already make enough of my own homebrew content to do it, it's not like it's actual rocket science.
The fact that they're trying to change their policy so that they own my art, my content that I made for D&D is simply gutting as a creator. I have a half-finished 80's mall campaign that I was planning on putting together this summer and putting online for free; I even have the character art, player tokens, maps and enemies all drawn out, I just needed to finish the text that went along with it all ~ now if I put it out there using the D&D rules I'm supposed to put some special mark on it that flags it down as something that Wizards of the Coast could just steal for themselves, and I'm just SOL? What bullshittery is that - I'm both not surprised at all because this is where we're at in Mega Greedy 2023, and terribly surprised because it just goes against the grain of what D&D has represented to me for so long.
Even if they walk back the worst of this, how do we know they won't slowly slip it in over time, revising it bit by bit until it's just as absurd as this version? It's the whole slippery slope - they've decided to coat the whole thing in grease with releasing this, now I know that they're considering it and it's on the table. It's just a matter of time before D&D is just as hamfisted as every other IP, acting like fanart and fanmade content is somehow a negative rather than the FREE ADVERTISING that it actually is. What damned idiots.
I'm absolutely worried about the changes of the OGL. I'm supporting amazing 3rd party content creators - mainly subscribing on their Patreons, or buying their PDF products. DnD is much better with these 3rd party stuff.
However, cancelling dndbeyond subsciption would hurt my fellow players in my groups. I bought a lot of DnD materials and I can share with them while I have a subscription. Without it they couldn't create new characters (only the basic ones), couldn't access to their spells or equipments. It would also slow down are games - everybody in my groups uses beyond's features.
So, my answer is no, I'll not cancel my subscription, because this step would hurt my players more than WotC. But I don't agree with WotC's proposed OGL change either.
#UPDATE 2023.01.12
After today's leak I've changed my mind.
I had an annual subscription anyway (paid at last november), so I have plenty of time to figure out, what to do when the subsciption ends.
If cancellation rate is their quick way of measurement... then let's have it.
The methodology of your poll is flawed - the editorial contained in the “no” option introduces bias to the poll and is going to dissuade folks who might vote “no” for reasons other than what you have forcibly ascribed to them from voting. All of that skews your results and shows you are less concerned with getting valid answers and more with proselytising.
Personally, I will not be unsubscribing. I don’t make decisions on mere conjecture and, even if it turns out to have some merit, that likely will not limit my or my players’ preference for D&D over other systems.
Will you people stop getting so worked up about this?? All these are are rumors. Rumors. Rumors don’t mean anything. Stop attacking WotC until we have all the facts.
I uses to be dndlover_2.
Personally, I won't be making ANY firm decisions until the company itself has formally released something. As we stand, we have rumors (strongly supported by circumstantial evidence) and guesses. I have seen people mention, from the legal field, that such over-the-top opening drafts are standard form in some circles. I have seen other companies "leak" information for free and widespread public opinion, since rumors and controversy draw a LOT more response than open polls. In short, I have seen a lot of guessing and supposing and nothing official or legally verified. Until the formal announcement is made with details, I will be watching.
Anyone pulling the plug immediately isn't doing anything to help anyone (including 3rd party developers) as you're only adding to the drama without any verified facts to support it. Mind you if it all ends up being true, I will likely be among those who end my "evolution" of D&D with 5E. All the physical books and materials I have will work as long as I look after them.
Talk to your Players. Talk to your DM. If more people used this advice, there would be 24.74% fewer threads on Tactics, Rules and DM discussions.
And also, what the hell is boycotting WotC gonna do? It’s not like they’re gonna change anything. Oh, no!! Some random user on the nerdiest social media is gonna boycott us! And another is gonna “create his own TTRPG!! What are we gonna do?
I uses to be dndlover_2.
Right. Because people who make up the sweet-spot of their revenue generation have no influence on their decisions at all... If you don't voice your displeasure with the direction a company takes, they can take it with impunity.
Take a look at the recent reversals on licensing directions from companies like Flimora as an example. Social media and the voice of the user base CAN make a difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy1HiWGchMg
Incidentally, I have a Masters in Marketing and have spent the last 30 years working in consumer retail and eCommerce... trust me. It matters.
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Falwith,
I appreciate what you're saying and agree. I'm NOT going to pull the plug UNTIL I see the final OGL (mind you, there's strong corroborating evidence).
If you read the language I used, I state that this is based on the rumors/leaks being correct and WotC continuing on it's current course of action.
I'm not advocating pulling the plug until WotC makes the plans official. HOWEVER, if we wait on expressing our dissatisfaction until the decision is MADE, then WotC cannot calculate the potential impact of their decision.
This is foreshadowing. IF they do this, THEN we do that...
Cheers.
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Fair. I will remove the editorial comments.
[POSTSCRIPT] - Seems you can't modify one once released. I apologize as your point is valid.
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I understand and would like to change the language but it doesn't appear that I can. I regret not leaving the editorial comments out - but thought they would provide context when I originally wrote them. I appreciate your observation and agree I shouldn't have included them. If you know how I might be able to correct this, please let me know.
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I appreciate the support. I'm not trying to get people "riled up" other than to initiate some data to which WotC can view as a cautionary tale about the possible impact of their leaked decision.
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All I’m saying is that this shit is taking over the forums, and that these are just rumors. You are twisting my words and intentions.
I uses to be dndlover_2.
Valid.
However, I wonder, over time, won't the absence and disappearance of 3rd party content have an equally negative impact on your players overall? How long do you think before WotC removes the "share" component" in it's content... considering it's turn-about on the original OGL?
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The Gatewalker Saga - Dragons Beware
If everyone boycots WoTC then their revenue dries up and they have to change things.
4e had no OGL and the lack of 3rd party content was one of the reasons it was a failure so they opened it up again in 5e.
Things are a little different now, when 4e came our most people who were playing D&D had 3e or 3.5 in books and could continue playing without providing further revenue to WoTC now a lot of players are reliant on subscription services and will have to chose whether to play without those services (likely to limit gameplay),switch to another RPG or contuinue to support WoTC. One of the big draws of D&D is the amout of 3rd party content. If, as rumoured, the OGL means that very few content creators will be willing to produce 3rd party D&D content then other systems become more attractive.
I'm sorry - Dndlover3. I'm not trying to twist anything, and I hope you realize that I'm trying to be respectful. I'm only bringing a counter-point to the conversation. If this sounded confrontational, I do apologize. That wasn't the intent.
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The Gatewalker Saga - Dragons Beware
Precisely my point. Thank you. I agree.
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The Gatewalker Saga - Dragons Beware
I mean, DnD Beyond has never been the place providing support for folks seriously invested in 3rd Party resources. Yes, a lot of people me included can make due with homebrew particularly those publishers that smartly make stuff portable into DDB, but also see "Why can't we homebrew new classes" threads ad infinitum for pugilists, ill riggers, etc.
DDB is a tool I use to support my current D&D Games. I enjoy my current D&D Games enough that I've been very slow to adopt new official content over the past year+ and will be very much wait and see regarding whatever One D&D Becomes before adopting it. I also support a number of 3rd party creators through product purchases, kickstarters and patreons. I also play a lot of other games with a similar variety of tools. I'm not going to abandon a tool that is perfectly compatible with the way I currently play. If the tool changes in a way that the tool itself frustrates the way I want to play, I move on.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
if your not using it no, and if you are, there are easy ways to either homebrew it in currently,though it does hurt your players and you for them to remove it. and removing sharing from its content? it will not likely do that as there have been several research polls done showing dms are the ones to usually buy stuff for their groups, and removing stuff like that from the game wiont stop folk from just buying the books physically and playing like that, or making google sheets or using varous other ways to get around it. theyll just stop using dndbeyond if you remove sharing, so wotc probs wont do that