It is going to depend on the size of the coinage and whether you are stacking them, piling them, or just putting a them flat on the ground. Since you mentioned Creation, I will assume they are stacked in a 5 foot cube.
The science behind storing items in a volume of space is surprisingly complex, and a number of papers have been written about those “guess how many of an object is sitting in this jar” games. Rather than deal with complex special volume issues and shapes, let’s assume they are stacked.
Somewhere I read that the D&D coin is approximately the size of a U.S. half dollar - which makes sense as D&D was made by Americans and that is the only “fantasy sized” coin that is modern legal tender, so is something they can easily grasp and understand.
A half dollar is 1.205 inches in diameter, so a row 5 feet across would fit 49 of them. That means we have a base of 49 by 49 coins - 2,401 coins. A half dollar is 0.08464567 inches thick, which means we could stack the coins 708 coins high. That gives us a total of 1,699,908 nearly stacked coins. You could increase that number substantially by jumbling them up more - you are going to lose out on a lot of volume because coins are round which means nice stacks leave lots of dead space - but that would require far more complex math.
A roger roger, also you could just create pounds of platinum to sell
As another fun data point, if you just made a 5x5x5 cube of platinum, the 125 cubic feet of platinum would weigh 167,361.56 pounds - far more than you could easily move and very, very likely to disappear before anyone is able to figure out exactly what to do with it.
It is going to depend on the size of the coinage and whether you are stacking them, piling them, or just putting a them flat on the ground. Since you mentioned Creation, I will assume they are stacked in a 5 foot cube.
The science behind storing items in a volume of space is surprisingly complex, and a number of papers have been written about those “guess how many of an object is sitting in this jar” games. Rather than deal with complex special volume issues and shapes, let’s assume they are stacked.
Somewhere I read that the D&D coin is approximately the size of a U.S. half dollar - which makes sense as D&D was made by Americans and that is the only “fantasy sized” coin that is modern legal tender, so is something they can easily grasp and understand.
A half dollar is 1.205 inches in diameter, so a row 5 feet across would fit 49 of them. That means we have a base of 49 by 49 coins - 2,401 coins. A half dollar is 0.08464567 inches thick, which means we could stack the coins 708 coins high. That gives us a total of 1,699,908 nearly stacked coins. You could increase that number substantially by jumbling them up more - you are going to lose out on a lot of volume because coins are round which means nice stacks leave lots of dead space - but that would require far more complex math.
The biggest issue here is definitely moving the coinage in time to get away with it. Even if the coins lasted all day, odds are that no one would take them.
A) Anyone selling something worth 10k+ is going to have the resources to cast basic magic, such as Detect Magic. B) Moving hundreds of pounds of loose coins is difficult, and makes them extremely vulnerable to robbery.
So, big ticket items are more likely to be purchased with gemstones (Takes time to appraise), trade (Magical items, deeds, contracts, favors), or through some kind of magical vaulted banking system. DMs are likely to handwave weight and merchant protocols when doing things legitimately, but it's entirely fair to bring them up when you would trip those security measures.
Well, that depends on how big the individual coins are, doesn't it?
Okay, let's say for the sake of convenience that all the coins are the same size and they are the same dimensions as an American quarter. A quarter is 24.26 mm in diameter and 1.75 mm thick. (I apologize to my fellow countrypeople for using the despicable and corrupted metric system, we'll return to real math in a moment).
That means that each layer is 62 coins by 62 coins, which is 3844 coins. And you can fit a stack of 870 layers in five feet. So that gives us a grand total of 3,344,280 coins.
And each quarter weighs 0.2 ounces. So 3,344,280 coins would weigh 20.9 tons.
Keep in mind that "coins" aren't necessarily round. Referencing the Forgotten Realms entry on Currency, Platinum coins can be basically square, depending on the minting region.
The same entry has this to say:
A standard gold piece (gp) weighed 0.32 ounces (9.1 grams), so 50 coins weighed about 1 pound (450 grams). Each piece was typically a flat disk 1 1/4 or 1.25 inches (3.18 centimeters) in diameter and 1/8 or 0.125 inches (3.18 millimeters) thick.
The penalty for counterfeiting was death in most places, since cities, kingdoms, and nations relied on the acceptance and trust of their currency.
When large sums were involved, it was common for traders to use trade bars, which were valued by weight, instead of coins.
How many coins can you fit in a 5ft square?
"Anyone can smith at the cosmic anvil, yet only I can forge a weapon as good as thee."
My Homebrew Please click it, they have my family.
Not much point creating them if they only last an hour.
Also, what would gunpowder be classified as?
"Anyone can smith at the cosmic anvil, yet only I can forge a weapon as good as thee."
My Homebrew Please click it, they have my family.
It is going to depend on the size of the coinage and whether you are stacking them, piling them, or just putting a them flat on the ground. Since you mentioned Creation, I will assume they are stacked in a 5 foot cube.
The science behind storing items in a volume of space is surprisingly complex, and a number of papers have been written about those “guess how many of an object is sitting in this jar” games. Rather than deal with complex special volume issues and shapes, let’s assume they are stacked.
Somewhere I read that the D&D coin is approximately the size of a U.S. half dollar - which makes sense as D&D was made by Americans and that is the only “fantasy sized” coin that is modern legal tender, so is something they can easily grasp and understand.
A half dollar is 1.205 inches in diameter, so a row 5 feet across would fit 49 of them. That means we have a base of 49 by 49 coins - 2,401 coins. A half dollar is 0.08464567 inches thick, which means we could stack the coins 708 coins high. That gives us a total of 1,699,908 nearly stacked coins. You could increase that number substantially by jumbling them up more - you are going to lose out on a lot of volume because coins are round which means nice stacks leave lots of dead space - but that would require far more complex math.
A roger roger, also you could just create pounds of platinum to sell
"Anyone can smith at the cosmic anvil, yet only I can forge a weapon as good as thee."
My Homebrew Please click it, they have my family.
As another fun data point, if you just made a 5x5x5 cube of platinum, the 125 cubic feet of platinum would weigh 167,361.56 pounds - far more than you could easily move and very, very likely to disappear before anyone is able to figure out exactly what to do with it.
And that's why people should use metric 😎
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The biggest issue here is definitely moving the coinage in time to get away with it. Even if the coins lasted all day, odds are that no one would take them.
A) Anyone selling something worth 10k+ is going to have the resources to cast basic magic, such as Detect Magic.
B) Moving hundreds of pounds of loose coins is difficult, and makes them extremely vulnerable to robbery.
So, big ticket items are more likely to be purchased with gemstones (Takes time to appraise), trade (Magical items, deeds, contracts, favors), or through some kind of magical vaulted banking system. DMs are likely to handwave weight and merchant protocols when doing things legitimately, but it's entirely fair to bring them up when you would trip those security measures.
Well, that depends on how big the individual coins are, doesn't it?
Okay, let's say for the sake of convenience that all the coins are the same size and they are the same dimensions as an American quarter. A quarter is 24.26 mm in diameter and 1.75 mm thick. (I apologize to my fellow countrypeople for using the despicable and corrupted metric system, we'll return to real math in a moment).
That means that each layer is 62 coins by 62 coins, which is 3844 coins. And you can fit a stack of 870 layers in five feet. So that gives us a grand total of 3,344,280 coins.
And each quarter weighs 0.2 ounces. So 3,344,280 coins would weigh 20.9 tons.
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Keep in mind that "coins" aren't necessarily round. Referencing the Forgotten Realms entry on Currency, Platinum coins can be basically square, depending on the minting region.
The same entry has this to say:
A standard gold piece (gp) weighed 0.32 ounces (9.1 grams), so 50 coins weighed about 1 pound (450 grams). Each piece was typically a flat disk 1 1/4 or 1.25 inches (3.18 centimeters) in diameter and 1/8 or 0.125 inches (3.18 millimeters) thick.
The penalty for counterfeiting was death in most places, since cities, kingdoms, and nations relied on the acceptance and trust of their currency.
When large sums were involved, it was common for traders to use trade bars, which were valued by weight, instead of coins.