I am a 5th level Human Paladin and we just destroyed an evil Dragon tyrant and I wanted to know if you could get special features from eating dragon parts, for example, the eyes of a dragon and getting the Dragon Fear feature. I wanted to dig a little deeper and really find out if you could eat dragon parts and getting awesome features or dying horribly trying. I discovered a website http://hackslashmaster.blogspot.com/2014/10/on-what-to-do-with-dragon-corpse.html?m=1 and that seems to have some detail, but I wanted to know what other players and/or Dungeon Master's thought. Getting these features would be pretty cool to have and make eating dragon parts Legendary then again you face the problem of being poisoned. So I would like to know what happens when you eat dragon parts and what features you would get?
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The idea of people being able to gain features and powers from just eating some dragon would mean dragons would be actively hunted down to the point of near extinction. I like dragons in my worlds. So, none makes the most logical sense for my games.
I'd say if a DM were going to allow it then maybe it'd be a way to become a Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer. Or just gain temporary resistance to the relevant energy type for a day.
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Dragon liver can cure a cold. With dragon blood, you'll never grow old. Dragon cartilage will keep you thin. A dragon tear will clear your skin.
The rhymes go on...
(Dragon heart will make you fart.)
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The idea of people being able to gain features and powers from just eating some dragon would mean dragons would be actively hunted down to the point of near extinction. I like dragons in my worlds. So, none makes the most logical sense for my games.
I'd say if a DM were going to allow it then maybe it'd be a way to become a Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer. Or just gain temporary resistance to the relevant energy type for a day.
I agree that any defined abilities too powerful will make dragons be hunted, but I don't think they can be hunted by normal hunters that easily. I would have certain magic items require dragon blood/organs to function, like a Dragon Slayer sword, or a Potion of Dragon Breath, so on.
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Dragons are people, so eating a dragon is as much cannibalism as eating an elf. If a player insisted on getting some feature for doing so, I’d definitely make it punishing (you can no longer benefit from a long rest without eating a person, etc.), because cannibalism is great as a joke but somewhat distasteful (eh heh heh) when it becomes a power thing.
White Dragon? Your tongue gets frost bite and falls off, and your teeth shatter.
If you eat a Blue Dragon, any chuncks of muscle might be capacitors of hundreds of watts of electricity, and eating it can literally explode you.
Eating a Green Dragon? Easy, poison.
Why would you eat a Black Dragon? That will give you the worst ulcers possible.
Don't eat metallic dragons, that is completely evil, and Bahamut will kill you with Meteor Swarm, but flavored as a giant flaming dragon head coming down from the heavens.
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I believe that the bones and scales could be used if you found the right guy, could be used to make Dragon Scale Mail or other weapons. But I do agree with TheCubester that you would make a big profit selling the dragon parts.
There aren't any RAW benefits, but here are some realistic ideas I have:
As food, dragons are probably just really exotic meat. Little to no lasting benefits. Maybe make you age slower or not at all for a few years. The right organ (heart or fundamentum) might let you start taking draconic sorcerer levels or get you an aberrant dragonmark feat.
Bones and scales make good weapons and armor. Dragon scale mail is an obvious one.
Probably makes good spellcasting components, too. I know there are some NPC magic rituals (not on spell lists) that use Dragon parts. Mostly these could be sold for a high price to the right buyer.
The meat of the dragon is more bitter than you expected. Even with the spices and roasting, there's a burning at the back of your throat and an unsettled acidic feeling in your gut when you swallow. But for a moment that taste is offset by the satisfaction of completely conquering this tyrant and freeing the land from it's cruelty. That moment passes as the burning in your gut grows, turning from minor annoyance into full blown doubled over pain. It expands and rises up through your skin rapidly until the flesh on your form bubbles with agony, then hardens into black scales. Random patches of your chest, arms, and one of your legs grow rigid and crack, and the splotchy scales even reach your throat before the pain finally ebbs. You feel altered and changed, stronger and perhaps more resilient, but also corrupted and poisoned. Your divine sense tingles as you now feel evil emanating from your own form.
The gravely voice that snakes into the back of your mind is filled with malice, and you recognize the Mother of Evil Dragons speaking to your soul, "A delicious new Paladin for me to play with. Are you ready to renounce your Oaths and follow your new God, or shall I claim my new Tyrant piece by piece?"
Dragons are people, so eating a dragon is as much cannibalism as eating an elf. If a player insisted on getting some feature for doing so, I’d definitely make it punishing (you can no longer benefit from a long rest without eating a person, etc.), because cannibalism is great as a joke but somewhat distasteful (eh heh heh) when it becomes a power thing.
Technically not cannibaliam - you have to be the same species. An Elf eating an Elf is cannibalism, but an Elf eating a Dwarf is not. Perhaps an argument can be made for "humanoids" but dragons are not humanoids. So, I can't really see dragon-eating as cannibalism. Especially since dragons do eat humanoids.
Maybe something can be said for a punishment due to the ethical ramifications of eating another sentient, intelligent, being. Then again people eat dolphins who are not only intelligent but are also self-aware like we are and have emotions like we do. Likewise octopi actually have a very high intelligence to them, but we eat a lot of their kind too. So, by and large, it does not seem like sentience and intelligence are barriers to "what we can eat" ethically speaking.
Anyway, I can see where you're going with this, but I don't think it works.
Personally, I can agree that aspects of the dragon could be used for rituals or to create magic items. But the generic "dragon meat into mouth = powers" is just a no for me.
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Dragons are people, so eating a dragon is as much cannibalism as eating an elf. If a player insisted on getting some feature for doing so, I’d definitely make it punishing (you can no longer benefit from a long rest without eating a person, etc.), because cannibalism is great as a joke but somewhat distasteful (eh heh heh) when it becomes a power thing.
Technically not cannibaliam - you have to be the same species. An Elf eating an Elf is cannibalism, but an Elf eating a Dwarf is not. Perhaps an argument can be made for "humanoids" but dragons are not humanoids. So, I can't really see dragon-eating as cannibalism. Especially since dragons do eat humanoids.
Maybe something can be said for a punishment due to the ethical ramifications of eating another sentient, intelligent, being. Then again people eat dolphins who are not only intelligent but are also self-aware like we are and have emotions like we do. Likewise octopi actually have a very high intelligence to them, but we eat a lot of their kind too. So, by and large, it does not seem like sentience and intelligence are barriers to "what we can eat" ethically speaking.
Anyway, I can see where you're going with this, but I don't think it works.
Personally, I can agree that aspects of the dragon could be used for rituals or to create magic items. But the generic "dragon meat into mouth = powers" is just a no for me.
I have learnt that maybe you wouldn't eat the dragon but harvest its Organs, Scales, Bones, etc. The parts could then be used to sell to, let's say a wizard and the Scales and Bones could be given to a special blacksmith that works in turning dragon bones and scales into weapons and armour e.g. Dragon Scale Mail. The same way a Lizardfolk can carve bones into Longswords, Greatswords, Greataxes, etc. However, It would be impossible to carry an Ancient Red Dragons rib cage for example.
Dragons are people, so eating a dragon is as much cannibalism as eating an elf. If a player insisted on getting some feature for doing so, I’d definitely make it punishing (you can no longer benefit from a long rest without eating a person, etc.), because cannibalism is great as a joke but somewhat distasteful (eh heh heh) when it becomes a power thing.
Technically not cannibaliam - you have to be the same species. An Elf eating an Elf is cannibalism, but an Elf eating a Dwarf is not. Perhaps an argument can be made for "humanoids" but dragons are not humanoids. So, I can't really see dragon-eating as cannibalism. Especially since dragons do eat humanoids.
You can't really say "technically not cannibalism" in a fantasy setting. Technical cannibalism is premised on the idea that human is the only species that has personhood, a premise meaningless in fantasy and science fiction. I think my original post made it pretty clear that when I say "cannibalism," I mean "people eating other people." I'm really not interested in a semantic discussion about whether or not anyone else thinks that's a useful sense of the word, but the ethical implications don't rely on the definition of that one word. It's bad when dragons eat humanoids too, and that's a good reason for adventurers to want to put a stop to the dragon, just like how they might want to put a stop to a tyrant who's murdering their people. Usually those adventurers don't then turn around and do even more murder.
To be super clear: if anyone wants to play a murder and cannibalism-filled D&D game, that is totally fine. I'm certainly not arguing that doing bad things in a game is the same as doing bad things in real life. But eating people is eating people, and you should know that's what you're doing when you do it (unless it's an NPC gleefully tricking you into eating a person, which is always 100% hilarious).
However, It would be impossible to carry an Ancient Red Dragons rib cage for example.
If someone casts Gentle Repose on the corpse, you have ten days and whatever hard coin was in the dragon's horde to head back to town, hire wagoners, tanners, butchers as well as get whatever containers and chemicals you're going to need the preserve the organs and then get back to the lair and start breaking that sucker down for parts.
This is Dungeons & Dragons. High fantasy. If you think something is impossible, you aren't thinking big enough.
"In my day, we used EVERY part of the dragon." -cranky, old woodsman criticizing young adventurers
"...except this part. We never figured out what it is." -same woodsman
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and go good with ketchup." -ancient wisdom
"Dragons are misunderstood creatures." -Hiccup, Dragontrainer
"To be faaaair, it's really just turnabout. Dragons eat people. People eat dragons." -Grok, Shaman Warlord of the Accursed Maigeos tribe
"I'm going to eat a giant egg!" -Caboose, Red vs. Blue
"The dragon said, 'Bite me!' So after we killed him, we did." -Brunilde Stoneknee
"I think it's something I ate." -Stornnic after eating what he thought was a dragon gizzard and just before he exploded
"Why are these dragon prairie oysters so small?" -Stoutheart Shieldblade, Paladin of Tyr "Stupid paladin. Sometimes, the dragon wins the battle." -innkeeper
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I know that as a DM, I wouldn't allow for someone to gain draconic features or abilities just by eating durgan bits. Durgan bits by themselves are mostly exotic meat with a side order of food poisoning if not prepared real gol durn carefully. But spells or rituals that allow the consumption of a powerful being's flesh to gain part of its power could be a semi-decent adventure hook for a party that's feeling a bit more primal than most typically do. Decent subquest fodder for the druids or barbarians in your party, mayhaps.
I am a 5th level Human Paladin and we just destroyed an evil Dragon tyrant and I wanted to know if you could get special features from eating dragon parts, for example, the eyes of a dragon and getting the Dragon Fear feature. I wanted to dig a little deeper and really find out if you could eat dragon parts and getting awesome features or dying horribly trying. I discovered a website http://hackslashmaster.blogspot.com/2014/10/on-what-to-do-with-dragon-corpse.html?m=1 and that seems to have some detail, but I wanted to know what other players and/or Dungeon Master's thought. Getting these features would be pretty cool to have and make eating dragon parts Legendary then again you face the problem of being poisoned. So I would like to know what happens when you eat dragon parts and what features you would get?
"A Jack Of All Trades is a master of none"
'That's why I hate Bards'
Entirely up to the DM.
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Do you have any ideas of features you would get?
"A Jack Of All Trades is a master of none"
'That's why I hate Bards'
If I was the DM it would be: none.
The idea of people being able to gain features and powers from just eating some dragon would mean dragons would be actively hunted down to the point of near extinction. I like dragons in my worlds. So, none makes the most logical sense for my games.
I'd say if a DM were going to allow it then maybe it'd be a way to become a Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer. Or just gain temporary resistance to the relevant energy type for a day.
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Dragon liver can cure a cold. With dragon blood, you'll never grow old. Dragon cartilage will keep you thin. A dragon tear will clear your skin.
The rhymes go on...
(Dragon heart will make you fart.)
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
Point Taken
"A Jack Of All Trades is a master of none"
'That's why I hate Bards'
Dragon leg, make you slow. Dragon toe, make you grow.
"A Jack Of All Trades is a master of none"
'That's why I hate Bards'
I agree that any defined abilities too powerful will make dragons be hunted, but I don't think they can be hunted by normal hunters that easily. I would have certain magic items require dragon blood/organs to function, like a Dragon Slayer sword, or a Potion of Dragon Breath, so on.
Please check out my homebrew, I would appreciate feedback:
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Eat them?
Eat them?
Eat them?!
No. No, no, no. Nononononono. No.
SELL THEM.
Eyes. Teeth. Skin. Claws. The whole thing, tip to tail and don't forget the scales.
Do you know how many wizards would back up a Kundarak carriage for a Draconis Fundamentum?!
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Dragons are people, so eating a dragon is as much cannibalism as eating an elf. If a player insisted on getting some feature for doing so, I’d definitely make it punishing (you can no longer benefit from a long rest without eating a person, etc.), because cannibalism is great as a joke but somewhat distasteful (eh heh heh) when it becomes a power thing.
Eating a Red Dragon, you burst into flames.
White Dragon? Your tongue gets frost bite and falls off, and your teeth shatter.
If you eat a Blue Dragon, any chuncks of muscle might be capacitors of hundreds of watts of electricity, and eating it can literally explode you.
Eating a Green Dragon? Easy, poison.
Why would you eat a Black Dragon? That will give you the worst ulcers possible.
Don't eat metallic dragons, that is completely evil, and Bahamut will kill you with Meteor Swarm, but flavored as a giant flaming dragon head coming down from the heavens.
Please check out my homebrew, I would appreciate feedback:
Spells, Monsters, Subclasses, Races, Arcknight Class, Occultist Class, World, Enigmatic Esoterica forms
I believe that the bones and scales could be used if you found the right guy, could be used to make Dragon Scale Mail or other weapons. But I do agree with TheCubester that you would make a big profit selling the dragon parts.
"A Jack Of All Trades is a master of none"
'That's why I hate Bards'
There aren't any RAW benefits, but here are some realistic ideas I have:
As food, dragons are probably just really exotic meat. Little to no lasting benefits. Maybe make you age slower or not at all for a few years. The right organ (heart or fundamentum) might let you start taking draconic sorcerer levels or get you an aberrant dragonmark feat.
Bones and scales make good weapons and armor. Dragon scale mail is an obvious one.
Probably makes good spellcasting components, too. I know there are some NPC magic rituals (not on spell lists) that use Dragon parts. Mostly these could be sold for a high price to the right buyer.
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InsiderThe meat of the dragon is more bitter than you expected. Even with the spices and roasting, there's a burning at the back of your throat and an unsettled acidic feeling in your gut when you swallow. But for a moment that taste is offset by the satisfaction of completely conquering this tyrant and freeing the land from it's cruelty. That moment passes as the burning in your gut grows, turning from minor annoyance into full blown doubled over pain. It expands and rises up through your skin rapidly until the flesh on your form bubbles with agony, then hardens into black scales. Random patches of your chest, arms, and one of your legs grow rigid and crack, and the splotchy scales even reach your throat before the pain finally ebbs. You feel altered and changed, stronger and perhaps more resilient, but also corrupted and poisoned. Your divine sense tingles as you now feel evil emanating from your own form.
The gravely voice that snakes into the back of your mind is filled with malice, and you recognize the Mother of Evil Dragons speaking to your soul, "A delicious new Paladin for me to play with. Are you ready to renounce your Oaths and follow your new God, or shall I claim my new Tyrant piece by piece?"
...or at least that's what I'd do. :D
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Technically not cannibaliam - you have to be the same species. An Elf eating an Elf is cannibalism, but an Elf eating a Dwarf is not. Perhaps an argument can be made for "humanoids" but dragons are not humanoids. So, I can't really see dragon-eating as cannibalism. Especially since dragons do eat humanoids.
Maybe something can be said for a punishment due to the ethical ramifications of eating another sentient, intelligent, being. Then again people eat dolphins who are not only intelligent but are also self-aware like we are and have emotions like we do. Likewise octopi actually have a very high intelligence to them, but we eat a lot of their kind too. So, by and large, it does not seem like sentience and intelligence are barriers to "what we can eat" ethically speaking.
Anyway, I can see where you're going with this, but I don't think it works.
Personally, I can agree that aspects of the dragon could be used for rituals or to create magic items. But the generic "dragon meat into mouth = powers" is just a no for me.
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I have learnt that maybe you wouldn't eat the dragon but harvest its Organs, Scales, Bones, etc. The parts could then be used to sell to, let's say a wizard and the Scales and Bones could be given to a special blacksmith that works in turning dragon bones and scales into weapons and armour e.g. Dragon Scale Mail. The same way a Lizardfolk can carve bones into Longswords, Greatswords, Greataxes, etc. However, It would be impossible to carry an Ancient Red Dragons rib cage for example.
"A Jack Of All Trades is a master of none"
'That's why I hate Bards'
You can't really say "technically not cannibalism" in a fantasy setting. Technical cannibalism is premised on the idea that human is the only species that has personhood, a premise meaningless in fantasy and science fiction. I think my original post made it pretty clear that when I say "cannibalism," I mean "people eating other people." I'm really not interested in a semantic discussion about whether or not anyone else thinks that's a useful sense of the word, but the ethical implications don't rely on the definition of that one word. It's bad when dragons eat humanoids too, and that's a good reason for adventurers to want to put a stop to the dragon, just like how they might want to put a stop to a tyrant who's murdering their people. Usually those adventurers don't then turn around and do even more murder.
To be super clear: if anyone wants to play a murder and cannibalism-filled D&D game, that is totally fine. I'm certainly not arguing that doing bad things in a game is the same as doing bad things in real life. But eating people is eating people, and you should know that's what you're doing when you do it (unless it's an NPC gleefully tricking you into eating a person, which is always 100% hilarious).
If someone casts Gentle Repose on the corpse, you have ten days and whatever hard coin was in the dragon's horde to head back to town, hire wagoners, tanners, butchers as well as get whatever containers and chemicals you're going to need the preserve the organs and then get back to the lair and start breaking that sucker down for parts.
This is Dungeons & Dragons. High fantasy. If you think something is impossible, you aren't thinking big enough.
DCI: 3319125026
"In my day, we used EVERY part of the dragon." -cranky, old woodsman criticizing young adventurers
"...except this part. We never figured out what it is." -same woodsman
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and go good with ketchup." -ancient wisdom
"Dragons are misunderstood creatures." -Hiccup, Dragontrainer
"To be faaaair, it's really just turnabout. Dragons eat people. People eat dragons." -Grok, Shaman Warlord of the Accursed Maigeos tribe
"I'm going to eat a giant egg!" -Caboose, Red vs. Blue
"The dragon said, 'Bite me!' So after we killed him, we did." -Brunilde Stoneknee
"I think it's something I ate." -Stornnic after eating what he thought was a dragon gizzard and just before he exploded
"Why are these dragon prairie oysters so small?" -Stoutheart Shieldblade, Paladin of Tyr
"Stupid paladin. Sometimes, the dragon wins the battle." -innkeeper
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
As Cybermind said, entirely up to the DM.
I know that as a DM, I wouldn't allow for someone to gain draconic features or abilities just by eating durgan bits. Durgan bits by themselves are mostly exotic meat with a side order of food poisoning if not prepared real gol durn carefully. But spells or rituals that allow the consumption of a powerful being's flesh to gain part of its power could be a semi-decent adventure hook for a party that's feeling a bit more primal than most typically do. Decent subquest fodder for the druids or barbarians in your party, mayhaps.
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