So I really want my Character to have a dragon. My DM says that we're not going to run into dragons for a long time which is understandable (We're all lvl 5 or below). I just want to get ahead of the curve and have the knowledge so I know what to do when the time comes. Any info will help. Thank you in advanced.
Good luck with your DM, lol. Everything depends on their decision and your rolls.
For your character: I'd start by having your character try to research dragon mythology/biology and so on. Regional folktales can help, too.Try to research Draconic, if you can. May not be able to learn it, but maybe you can at least recognize it.
In Tyranny of Dragons and whatever the other one is, i played a Gnome Barbarian. Rolled great stats, so he was pretty intelligent, just feral. I love dragons in D&D, so to cover for all my knowledge, I had my character be very interested in Dragons. He researched info on them whenever he could, even before he started fighting the Dragon Cult. The only GAME advantage he got from it, was that I could justify my knowing the general types and attitudes of the ones we encountered.
For the player: Ask your DM what Dragons are in your world. They don't have to answer if they want to keep it a surprise. Remember that Dragons live a loooong time and take the long view. Your character could die of old age before they decide to befriend you. A baby or young dragon would be less game-breaking, but don't expect them to get any bigger until long after your campaign is over. Although that presents great opportunities for future campaigns and characters.
Above all, remember that the Dragon sees itself as the strongest thing around. Even if it is not, it KNOWS it will be with time. Dragons are extremely prideful, but not stupid. They'll negotiate to their advantage.
Edit: I found the 4e Dragonomicons for Chromatics and Metallics to be great resources and inspirations for games.
True dragons are top of the food chain and are smarter than the average human (except white). The only things stronger than full grown dragons are extraplanar beings of the highest order (basically demigods). There is a YouTube series by Mr rhexx (or something like that) that covers a lot of extra details on dragons that is not mentioned in the MM.
If you want a dragon as a pet, an easy solution is a qseudodragon. If you go down a warlock path and be sworn to an Old One, you can automatically spawn one to be your pet. That is about as pperfect as it gets. pseudo dragons are about cat sized and are awesome. I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but here you go.
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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
For a pet/animal companion, _Mordecai_'s suggestion of a pseudodragon is probably your best bet.
If you're looking for something like dragonriders or How to Train Your Dragon, that will be a tough sell with many DMs.
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I totally forgot about them. Would any so-called "Lesser Dragon" be more viable than "True Dragons" as companions, expense aside? (Is that why True Dragons consider them less?)🤔
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Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider. My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong. I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲 “It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
I totally forgot about them. Would any so-called "Lesser Dragon" be more viable than "True Dragons" as companions, expense aside? (Is that why True Dragons consider them less?)🤔
Not "any" (a dragon turtle would be a difficult pet), but most: Drakes, faerie dragons, psuedodragons, and wyverns.
You don't. You would have to dominate the dragon. They are intelligent and strong willed.
All that aside. My party ran into some Brass Dragon Wrymlings last week. (level 5) and one of the characters started a conversation with them and praised them and told them stories of her travels. The two Dragons became friendly towards her. But by no means were they going to do her bidding unless it was something they wanted to do in the first place.
Let's say that I do manage to like befriend a dragon and it comes with me, how would I manage it? Would I make a character sheet for it? Would I basically be playing as it and my character or would my DM manage it?
Let's say that I do manage to like befriend a dragon and it comes with me, how would I manage it? Would I make a character sheet for it? Would I basically be playing as it and my character or would my DM manage it?
That’s a question for your DM. I can tell you that if your DM were asking, my advice would be 1) don’t do it and 2) if you do, the DM should run the dragon.
I agree with Mikaos. True polymorph would be a simple high-level solution. Find an NPC who's friendly towards you and would agree to take on the form of a dragon permanently. True polymorph that son' gun and you're golden.
We had a rather intense session in my Decent into Avernus campaign last night, but it resulted in me taking a young blue dragon as my "pet".
We raided Arkhans Tower, and among the vast enemies inside were 5 young dragons, as well as an ancient white that was flying around outside. My character is a Goliath tempest cleric of Thor, and after summarily slaughtering 4 of the 5 younglings, all that was left was the young blue, beaten and bleeding and one attack from death. Eyes crackling with lightning (ala MCU Thor), I calmly walked towards the dragon, slammed my warhammer headfirst onto the ground, and declared that the creature had 2 options - renouce Tiamat and join me as a servant of Thor, or die. I succeeded on my intimidation check, and long story short, I now have a "pet" young blue dragon the DM has named Aynirth "the broken".
We still had to take care of the Ancient, and at the end of the raid we were all no more than a few hitpoints away from death.. but we ******* did it!
We were lvl 9 when we walked into the place, but lvl 10 by the time all was said and done lol
If your DM is cool with a player character having a pet dragon, you have a rare DM indeed. I don't think that kind of a request would be given any consideration at most tables given how intelligent, prideful, and powerful dragons are basically immediately after they hatch. (I mean, a green wyrmling has an intelligence score of 14! And even the white wyrmling, which is the most bestial and least intelligent of newborn dragons, is smarter than pretty much anything at its challenge rating that isn't a humanoid.)
The best thing you can do is learn all the dragon lore you can in your campaign setting. Your DM's world may be very different than what you can find in published lore. And I highly recommend you do this in-character. Have your character read books on dragons, or talk to rangers, or ask traveling minstrels to sing songs or recite poetry about dragons. That way, you're investing in the DM's universe, learning organically, and setting up a hook for your DM to potentially pick up and use later.
That said...do it respectfully and in moderation. It's generally considered bad form to pester a DM about one thing in particular that's already been discussed, and it's very bad form to do this to the point that you derail sessions and ignore plot to chase after your own thing. You might not be that kind of a player, but I include this simply because I've played with (and DMed for) far too many people who did exactly that.
Good luck! :-)
Edit: I only just realized this thread is 2 years old...you thread necromancers got me, this time.
You could use Dominate beast spell on a wyrmling.... The problem is, it only last 1 minute. Sure you could upcast it up to one hour but you are low level. My solution would be complex but possible, 1-Find a dragon(the younger the better) and use some magic to lower WIS. 2- Dominate beast on that BOI. 3- If you are a coffeelock, just make infinite glyphs of warding with dominate beast on it (LOL). If not, put the maximum you are able and activate them when the previous dom ends.
Is it crazy, expensive, and even obnoxious to keep? Yep. But thats a dragon for you, rules as writen.
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So I really want my Character to have a dragon. My DM says that we're not going to run into dragons for a long time which is understandable (We're all lvl 5 or below). I just want to get ahead of the curve and have the knowledge so I know what to do when the time comes. Any info will help. Thank you in advanced.
Good luck with your DM, lol. Everything depends on their decision and your rolls.
For your character: I'd start by having your character try to research dragon mythology/biology and so on. Regional folktales can help, too.Try to research Draconic, if you can. May not be able to learn it, but maybe you can at least recognize it.
In Tyranny of Dragons and whatever the other one is, i played a Gnome Barbarian. Rolled great stats, so he was pretty intelligent, just feral. I love dragons in D&D, so to cover for all my knowledge, I had my character be very interested in Dragons. He researched info on them whenever he could, even before he started fighting the Dragon Cult. The only GAME advantage he got from it, was that I could justify my knowing the general types and attitudes of the ones we encountered.
For the player: Ask your DM what Dragons are in your world. They don't have to answer if they want to keep it a surprise. Remember that Dragons live a loooong time and take the long view. Your character could die of old age before they decide to befriend you. A baby or young dragon would be less game-breaking, but don't expect them to get any bigger until long after your campaign is over. Although that presents great opportunities for future campaigns and characters.
Above all, remember that the Dragon sees itself as the strongest thing around. Even if it is not, it KNOWS it will be with time. Dragons are extremely prideful, but not stupid. They'll negotiate to their advantage.
Edit: I found the 4e Dragonomicons for Chromatics and Metallics to be great resources and inspirations for games.
I think you are thinking the wrong way.
True dragons are top of the food chain and are smarter than the average human (except white). The only things stronger than full grown dragons are extraplanar beings of the highest order (basically demigods). There is a YouTube series by Mr rhexx (or something like that) that covers a lot of extra details on dragons that is not mentioned in the MM.
Yeah, take a dragon as your warlock patron :)
"Not all those who wander are lost"
If you want a dragon as a pet, an easy solution is a qseudodragon. If you go down a warlock path and be sworn to an Old One, you can automatically spawn one to be your pet. That is about as pperfect as it gets. pseudo dragons are about cat sized and are awesome. I don't know if this is what you were looking for, but here you go.
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
- Litany Against Fear, Frank Herbert
For a pet/animal companion, _Mordecai_'s suggestion of a pseudodragon is probably your best bet.
If you're looking for something like dragonriders or How to Train Your Dragon, that will be a tough sell with many DMs.
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
Wyverns are not unheard of as mounts, but they have to be trained from birth and are quite expensive.
I totally forgot about them. Would any so-called "Lesser Dragon" be more viable than "True Dragons" as companions, expense aside? (Is that why True Dragons consider them less?)🤔
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
Not "any" (a dragon turtle would be a difficult pet), but most: Drakes, faerie dragons, psuedodragons, and wyverns.
You don't. You would have to dominate the dragon. They are intelligent and strong willed.
All that aside. My party ran into some Brass Dragon Wrymlings last week. (level 5) and one of the characters started a conversation with them and praised them and told them stories of her travels. The two Dragons became friendly towards her. But by no means were they going to do her bidding unless it was something they wanted to do in the first place.
Let's say that I do manage to like befriend a dragon and it comes with me, how would I manage it? Would I make a character sheet for it? Would I basically be playing as it and my character or would my DM manage it?
That’s a question for your DM. I can tell you that if your DM were asking, my advice would be 1) don’t do it and 2) if you do, the DM should run the dragon.
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You can put it in extras on the character sheet.
Bards, warlocks and wizards get the option of True Polymorph at level 17. If any player wants to become a dragon at that point that is an option.
I agree with Mikaos. True polymorph would be a simple high-level solution. Find an NPC who's friendly towards you and would agree to take on the form of a dragon permanently. True polymorph that son' gun and you're golden.
We had a rather intense session in my Decent into Avernus campaign last night, but it resulted in me taking a young blue dragon as my "pet".
We raided Arkhans Tower, and among the vast enemies inside were 5 young dragons, as well as an ancient white that was flying around outside. My character is a Goliath tempest cleric of Thor, and after summarily slaughtering 4 of the 5 younglings, all that was left was the young blue, beaten and bleeding and one attack from death. Eyes crackling with lightning (ala MCU Thor), I calmly walked towards the dragon, slammed my warhammer headfirst onto the ground, and declared that the creature had 2 options - renouce Tiamat and join me as a servant of Thor, or die. I succeeded on my intimidation check, and long story short, I now have a "pet" young blue dragon the DM has named Aynirth "the broken".
We still had to take care of the Ancient, and at the end of the raid we were all no more than a few hitpoints away from death.. but we ******* did it!
We were lvl 9 when we walked into the place, but lvl 10 by the time all was said and done lol
Could always pull a Hagrid and win it off some bloke who has a dragon egg. How that guy gets a dragon egg up to DM!
Upon making a character you can gain a free trinket from a trinkets table. In the PHB, there is one trinket that might work, given your DM allows it.
A 1-pound egg with a bright red shell
This eventually will hatch and could possibly grant you a baby dragon that you could raise and train into a pet.
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If your DM is cool with a player character having a pet dragon, you have a rare DM indeed. I don't think that kind of a request would be given any consideration at most tables given how intelligent, prideful, and powerful dragons are basically immediately after they hatch. (I mean, a green wyrmling has an intelligence score of 14! And even the white wyrmling, which is the most bestial and least intelligent of newborn dragons, is smarter than pretty much anything at its challenge rating that isn't a humanoid.)
The best thing you can do is learn all the dragon lore you can in your campaign setting. Your DM's world may be very different than what you can find in published lore. And I highly recommend you do this in-character. Have your character read books on dragons, or talk to rangers, or ask traveling minstrels to sing songs or recite poetry about dragons. That way, you're investing in the DM's universe, learning organically, and setting up a hook for your DM to potentially pick up and use later.
That said...do it respectfully and in moderation. It's generally considered bad form to pester a DM about one thing in particular that's already been discussed, and it's very bad form to do this to the point that you derail sessions and ignore plot to chase after your own thing. You might not be that kind of a player, but I include this simply because I've played with (and DMed for) far too many people who did exactly that.
Good luck! :-)
Edit: I only just realized this thread is 2 years old...you thread necromancers got me, this time.
You could use Dominate beast spell on a wyrmling.... The problem is, it only last 1 minute.
Sure you could upcast it up to one hour but you are low level.
My solution would be complex but possible, 1-Find a dragon(the younger the better) and use some magic to lower WIS. 2- Dominate beast on that BOI. 3- If you are a coffeelock, just make infinite glyphs of warding with dominate beast on it (LOL). If not, put the maximum you are able and activate them when the previous dom ends.
Is it crazy, expensive, and even obnoxious to keep? Yep. But thats a dragon for you, rules as writen.