I would love to be wrong but Dark Sun has a lot of hard R content like cannibalism, slavery, hardcore racism, and a lot of other issues that I think the mainstream 5e community likely wont relate to.
Ravenloft has a lot of that stuff, too.
Also, 5e has the youngest population of players out of any of the editions, but not that young. Most of the players are mature and can handle those themes. If a setting book was to come out for Dark Sun, they could have a real disclaimer about the themes of the world, in place of the normal joking ones they have.
I hope I am wrong as I would love to see a Dark Sun book....
But they recently just removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd. Also I am not sure cannibalism is addressed in any form (other than some lore for lizardfolk) in 5e. Slavery seems like too taboo of a topic at this point for WotC.
Also having a setting where Wizards would be killed on sight? Overall just seems unlikely.
I would love to be wrong but Dark Sun has a lot of hard R content like cannibalism, slavery, hardcore racism, and a lot of other issues that I think the mainstream 5e community likely wont relate to.
Ravenloft has a lot of that stuff, too.
Also, 5e has the youngest population of players out of any of the editions, but not that young. Most of the players are mature and can handle those themes. If a setting book was to come out for Dark Sun, they could have a real disclaimer about the themes of the world, in place of the normal joking ones they have.
I hope I am wrong as I would love to see a Dark Sun book....
But they recently just removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd. Also I am not sure cannibalism is addressed in any form (other than some lore for lizardfolk) in 5e. Slavery seems like too taboo of a topic at this point for WotC.
Also having a setting where Wizards would be killed on sight? Overall just seems unlikely.
Overall I hope I am wrong though.
They removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd because the Vistani are the embodiment of all the stereotypes of the Romani people, not because racism isn't allowed in D&D games/lore.
The killing wizards on sight didn't seem like a problem in previous editions, so why would it in 5e?
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I would love to be wrong but Dark Sun has a lot of hard R content like cannibalism, slavery, hardcore racism, and a lot of other issues that I think the mainstream 5e community likely wont relate to.
Ravenloft has a lot of that stuff, too.
Also, 5e has the youngest population of players out of any of the editions, but not that young. Most of the players are mature and can handle those themes. If a setting book was to come out for Dark Sun, they could have a real disclaimer about the themes of the world, in place of the normal joking ones they have.
I hope I am wrong as I would love to see a Dark Sun book....
But they recently just removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd. Also I am not sure cannibalism is addressed in any form (other than some lore for lizardfolk) in 5e. Slavery seems like too taboo of a topic at this point for WotC.
Also having a setting where Wizards would be killed on sight? Overall just seems unlikely.
Overall I hope I am wrong though.
They removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd because the Vistani are the embodiment of all the stereotypes of the Romani people, not because racism isn't allowed in D&D games/lore.
The killing wizards on sight didn't seem like a problem in previous editions, so why would it in 5e?
Because they obviously love Wizards in this edition.
And the Mul are literally a race created to be slaves. That's pretty heavy for current culture.
I would love to be wrong but Dark Sun has a lot of hard R content like cannibalism, slavery, hardcore racism, and a lot of other issues that I think the mainstream 5e community likely wont relate to.
Ravenloft has a lot of that stuff, too.
Also, 5e has the youngest population of players out of any of the editions, but not that young. Most of the players are mature and can handle those themes. If a setting book was to come out for Dark Sun, they could have a real disclaimer about the themes of the world, in place of the normal joking ones they have.
I hope I am wrong as I would love to see a Dark Sun book....
But they recently just removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd. Also I am not sure cannibalism is addressed in any form (other than some lore for lizardfolk) in 5e. Slavery seems like too taboo of a topic at this point for WotC.
Also having a setting where Wizards would be killed on sight? Overall just seems unlikely.
Overall I hope I am wrong though.
They removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd because the Vistani are the embodiment of all the stereotypes of the Romani people, not because racism isn't allowed in D&D games/lore.
The killing wizards on sight didn't seem like a problem in previous editions, so why would it in 5e?
Because they obviously love Wizards in this edition.
And the Mul are literally a race created to be slaves. That's pretty heavy for current culture.
*shrug*
I don't think any of that is a roadblock in bringing Dark Sun to 5e. If they decide they're not okay with enslaved half-dwarves, they can remove that from the setting.
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I hope I am wrong as I would love to see a Dark Sun book....
But they recently just removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd. Also I am not sure cannibalism is addressed in any form (other than some lore for lizardfolk) in 5e. Slavery seems like too taboo of a topic at this point for WotC.
Also having a setting where Wizards would be killed on sight? Overall just seems unlikely.
Overall I hope I am wrong though.
Icewind Dale spoiler:
In Icewind Dale, one of the options is a quest where the adventurers have been asked to "deal with" a Reghed tribe camp that has resorted to cannibalism (the tribe won't deal with it internally because of fears of cascading into a tribal civil war). It's explicitly stated that some of the children in the tribe have resorted to cannibalism and the community has consumed its elders and a number of travelers. And the adventure as written just says "deal with it". A non violent solution is possible but it's not the only or most obvious path to resolving the quest.
If Wizards can put text like that in, and have souls burned as fuel in other adventures, and undead that feed on flesh ... I'm pretty sure cannibalism in Dark Sun can be addressed. I think slavery as a manifestation of evil could be handled too. I could even see a cynical "have it both ways" move, where WotC telegraphs a warning for sensitive readers which will probably boost the market for players looking for grimdark content, which is a market....
I've written elsewhere that I think the problem will be the artwork for the original Dark Sun was very much riffs off the leather fetish community via Mad Max. I think they could still do that "dark" style of fashion, but would have to cut down the cheesecake. Instead of lots of exposed skin, I imagine figures clad more like the Erinyes are depicted in the Monster Manual. Same psychological tone, just less gratuitous.
I hope I am wrong as I would love to see a Dark Sun book....
But they recently just removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd. Also I am not sure cannibalism is addressed in any form (other than some lore for lizardfolk) in 5e. Slavery seems like too taboo of a topic at this point for WotC.
Also having a setting where Wizards would be killed on sight? Overall just seems unlikely.
Overall I hope I am wrong though.
Icewind Dale spoiler:
In Icewind Dale, one of the options is a quest where the adventurers have been asked to "deal with" a Reghed tribe camp that has resorted to cannibalism (the tribe won't deal with it internally because of fears of cascading into a tribal civil war). It's explicitly stated that some of the children in the tribe have resorted to cannibalism and the community has consumed its elders and a number of travelers. And the adventure as written just says "deal with it". A non violent solution is possible but it's not the only or most obvious path to resolving the quest.
If Wizards can put text like that in, and have souls burned as fuel in other adventures, and undead that feed on flesh ... I'm pretty sure cannibalism in Dark Sun can be addressed. I think slavery as a manifestation of evil could be handled too. I could even see a cynical "have it both ways" move, where WotC telegraphs a warning for sensitive readers which will probably boost the market for players looking for grimdark content, which is a market....
I've written elsewhere that I think the problem will be the artwork for the original Dark Sun was very much riffs off the leather fetish community via Mad Max. I think they could still do that "dark" style of fashion, but would have to cut down the cheesecake. Instead of lots of exposed skin, I imagine figures clad more like the Erinyes are depicted in the Monster Manual. Same psychological tone, just less gratuitous.
Ah fair enough then. I would love some thri-kreen!
Even though Forgotten Realms is the default setting for 5e, I would love to see it treated with more authenticity to the setting (since some products have been either drastically changing lore--MToF--or are fairly setting-neutral). I would love an FR Campaign Guide along the lines of the 3.0 one, and more setting-specific books. Also I wouldn't mind some Planescape. Even though I am not too familiar with the setting, I do enjoy cosmology.
Ravenloft is a given, but I'd guess going to take one from the true classic (Greyhawk/Dragonlance/etc.) and one from outerworld setting (Planescape/Spelljammer)
Personally pulling for Greyhawk and Planescape myself. Would like a 5e version of the OG Greyhawk. And the planes need some lore and refinement. They've been mostly neglected in 5e so far except for a couple.
I'll freely admit that I clicked on that Icewind Dale Spoiler button purely in the hopes that it revealed news that an official 5E Dark Sun sourcebook was in the works.
Even though Forgotten Realms is the default setting for 5e, I would love to see it treated with more authenticity to the setting (since some products have been either drastically changing lore--MToF--or are fairly setting-neutral). I would love an FR Campaign Guide along the lines of the 3.0 one, and more setting-specific books. Also I wouldn't mind some Planescape. Even though I am not too familiar with the setting, I do enjoy cosmology.
I certain a FR campaign book is coming.
1) To tie in with the MtG FR set and all the advantages to that.
2) hundreds of pieces of free art, payed for by the, MtG department, so it doesn't come out of D&D's budget. This was one of the things they loved about the Theros and Ravnica setting, piles of gorgeous card art to use in the books, saving money.
3) BG3 will most likely coming out next year, so that will create more FR fans.
4) The SCAG and the Elemental Evil Player Guide aren't allowed for AL now, most likely because the contents are being fixed to be added to a FR Campaign Setting Guide.
5) Right now compared to Theros, Ravnica, and Eberron both FR and Ravenloft don't have proper setting suport for like over 90% of their settings, so its harder for dmsguild writers to write those setting, they are missing a key resource.
6) according to the last poll WotC has shared, the top most popular settings are the Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Planescape, Darksun, and Eberron. Eberron has a book. If they do say FR, Ravenloft, and either Darksun or Planescape, that is 4 out of 5 of their most popular settings done. That leaves either Darksun or Planescape for afterwards, along with tier 2 setting Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and Spelljammer.
7) It allows them to fix controversial things throughout the setting they are like Gurs, just like with Ravenloft and Vistani.
8) it's will make a ton of money
9) People have been asking for it for years
10) it will be useful to every single adventure they have already put out.
11) Most folks were unhappy with the SCAG and WotC knows it.
12) They clearly have been building up to another Realms Shaking Event, most likely with the goal of merging D&D and MtG cosmologies, making the setting even more in need of an update.
13) It would be the perfect time to re-launch the novel line.
14) They have learned so much from writing Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, Mythic Odysessys of Theros, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, and Eberron: Rising From The Last War, that they are very prepared for a Forgotten Realms Campaign book.
15) It would allow them to set anthologies across FR without causing problems, because it will provide both authors and DMs the knowledge required to write and use FR anywhere.
Even though Forgotten Realms is the default setting for 5e, I would love to see it treated with more authenticity to the setting (since some products have been either drastically changing lore--MToF--or are fairly setting-neutral). I would love an FR Campaign Guide along the lines of the 3.0 one, and more setting-specific books. Also I wouldn't mind some Planescape. Even though I am not too familiar with the setting, I do enjoy cosmology.
I certain a FR campaign book is coming.
1) To tie in with the MtG FR set and all the advantages to that.
2) hundreds of pieces of free art, payed for by the, MtG department, so it doesn't come out of D&D's budget. This was one of the things they loved about the Theros and Ravnica setting, piles of gorgeous card art to use in the books, saving money.
3) BG3 will most likely coming out next year, so that will create more FR fans.
4) The SCAG and the Elemental Evil Player Guide aren't allowed for AL now, most likely because the contents are being fixed to be added to a FR Campaign Setting Guide.
5) Right now compared to Theros, Ravnica, and Eberron both FR and Ravenloft don't have proper setting suport for like over 90% of their settings, so its harder for dmsguild writers to write those setting, they are missing a key resource.
6) according to the last poll WotC has shared, the top most popular settings are the Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Planescape, Darksun, and Eberron. Eberron has a book. If they do say FR, Ravenloft, and either Darksun or Planescape, that is 4 out of 5 of their most popular settings done. That leaves either Darksun or Planescape for afterwards, along with tier 2 setting Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and Spelljammer.
7) It allows them to fix controversial things throughout the setting they are like Gurs, just like with Ravenloft and Vistani.
8) it's will make a ton of money
9) People have been asking for it for years
10) it will be useful to every single adventure they have already put out.
11) Most folks were unhappy with the SCAG and WotC knows it.
12) They clearly have been building up to another Realms Shaking Event, most likely with the goal of merging D&D and MtG cosmologies, making the setting even more in need of an update.
13) It would be the perfect time to re-launch the novel line.
14) They have learned so much from writing Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, Mythic Odysessys of Theros, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, and Eberron: Rising From The Last War, that they are very prepared for a Forgotten Realms Campaign book.
15) It would allow them to set anthologies across FR without causing problems, because it will provide both authors and DMs the knowledge required to write and use FR anywhere.
Also, the event? It happened. Spoilers for Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden!
Even though Forgotten Realms is the default setting for 5e, I would love to see it treated with more authenticity to the setting (since some products have been either drastically changing lore--MToF--or are fairly setting-neutral). I would love an FR Campaign Guide along the lines of the 3.0 one, and more setting-specific books. Also I wouldn't mind some Planescape. Even though I am not too familiar with the setting, I do enjoy cosmology.
I certain a FR campaign book is coming.
1) To tie in with the MtG FR set and all the advantages to that.
2) hundreds of pieces of free art, payed for by the, MtG department, so it doesn't come out of D&D's budget. This was one of the things they loved about the Theros and Ravnica setting, piles of gorgeous card art to use in the books, saving money.
3) BG3 will most likely coming out next year, so that will create more FR fans.
4) The SCAG and the Elemental Evil Player Guide aren't allowed for AL now, most likely because the contents are being fixed to be added to a FR Campaign Setting Guide.
5) Right now compared to Theros, Ravnica, and Eberron both FR and Ravenloft don't have proper setting suport for like over 90% of their settings, so its harder for dmsguild writers to write those setting, they are missing a key resource.
6) according to the last poll WotC has shared, the top most popular settings are the Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Planescape, Darksun, and Eberron. Eberron has a book. If they do say FR, Ravenloft, and either Darksun or Planescape, that is 4 out of 5 of their most popular settings done. That leaves either Darksun or Planescape for afterwards, along with tier 2 setting Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and Spelljammer.
7) It allows them to fix controversial things throughout the setting they are like Gurs, just like with Ravenloft and Vistani.
8) it's will make a ton of money
9) People have been asking for it for years
10) it will be useful to every single adventure they have already put out.
11) Most folks were unhappy with the SCAG and WotC knows it.
12) They clearly have been building up to another Realms Shaking Event, most likely with the goal of merging D&D and MtG cosmologies, making the setting even more in need of an update.
13) It would be the perfect time to re-launch the novel line.
14) They have learned so much from writing Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, Mythic Odysessys of Theros, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, and Eberron: Rising From The Last War, that they are very prepared for a Forgotten Realms Campaign book.
15) It would allow them to set anthologies across FR without causing problems, because it will provide both authors and DMs the knowledge required to write and use FR anywhere.
Also, the event? It happened. Spoilers for Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden!
There was a hint of it with the Obilesks, but that is one possible option for how Frostmaiden ends, the full story of what happens with the Obilesks will likely unfold in the MtG FR set and a Forgotten Realms Campaign guide to milk that sweet, sweet, MtG art. Also remember there are a crap load of those Obilesks and it's not just FR that has them, so this might be more of a Multiverse Shaking Event then just a Realms Shaking Event, it's that FR will be central to what happens, perhaps with the greatest repercussions there, although I can see the planar travel rules loosening up for none planeswalkers in MtG settings.
Even though Forgotten Realms is the default setting for 5e, I would love to see it treated with more authenticity to the setting (since some products have been either drastically changing lore--MToF--or are fairly setting-neutral). I would love an FR Campaign Guide along the lines of the 3.0 one, and more setting-specific books. Also I wouldn't mind some Planescape. Even though I am not too familiar with the setting, I do enjoy cosmology.
I certain a FR campaign book is coming.
1) To tie in with the MtG FR set and all the advantages to that.
2) hundreds of pieces of free art, payed for by the, MtG department, so it doesn't come out of D&D's budget. This was one of the things they loved about the Theros and Ravnica setting, piles of gorgeous card art to use in the books, saving money.
3) BG3 will most likely coming out next year, so that will create more FR fans.
4) The SCAG and the Elemental Evil Player Guide aren't allowed for AL now, most likely because the contents are being fixed to be added to a FR Campaign Setting Guide.
5) Right now compared to Theros, Ravnica, and Eberron both FR and Ravenloft don't have proper setting suport for like over 90% of their settings, so its harder for dmsguild writers to write those setting, they are missing a key resource.
6) according to the last poll WotC has shared, the top most popular settings are the Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Planescape, Darksun, and Eberron. Eberron has a book. If they do say FR, Ravenloft, and either Darksun or Planescape, that is 4 out of 5 of their most popular settings done. That leaves either Darksun or Planescape for afterwards, along with tier 2 setting Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and Spelljammer.
7) It allows them to fix controversial things throughout the setting they are like Gurs, just like with Ravenloft and Vistani.
8) it's will make a ton of money
9) People have been asking for it for years
10) it will be useful to every single adventure they have already put out.
11) Most folks were unhappy with the SCAG and WotC knows it.
12) They clearly have been building up to another Realms Shaking Event, most likely with the goal of merging D&D and MtG cosmologies, making the setting even more in need of an update.
13) It would be the perfect time to re-launch the novel line.
14) They have learned so much from writing Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, Mythic Odysessys of Theros, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, and Eberron: Rising From The Last War, that they are very prepared for a Forgotten Realms Campaign book.
15) It would allow them to set anthologies across FR without causing problems, because it will provide both authors and DMs the knowledge required to write and use FR anywhere.
Also, the event? It happened. Spoilers for Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden!
There was a hint of it with the Obilesks, but that is one possible option for how Frostmaiden ends, the full story of what happens with the Obilesks will likely unfold in the MtG FR set and a Forgotten Realms Campaign guide to milk that sweet, sweet, MtG art. Also remember there are a crap load of those Obilesks and it's not just FR that has them, so this might be more of a Multiverse Shaking Event then just a Realms Shaking Event, it's that FR will be central to what happens, perhaps with the greatest repercussions there, although I can see the planar travel rules loosening up for none planeswalkers in MtG settings.
MGT is already in the D&D Material Plane - all D&D adventures take place on it!
Even though Forgotten Realms is the default setting for 5e, I would love to see it treated with more authenticity to the setting (since some products have been either drastically changing lore--MToF--or are fairly setting-neutral). I would love an FR Campaign Guide along the lines of the 3.0 one, and more setting-specific books. Also I wouldn't mind some Planescape. Even though I am not too familiar with the setting, I do enjoy cosmology.
I certain a FR campaign book is coming.
1) To tie in with the MtG FR set and all the advantages to that.
2) hundreds of pieces of free art, payed for by the, MtG department, so it doesn't come out of D&D's budget. This was one of the things they loved about the Theros and Ravnica setting, piles of gorgeous card art to use in the books, saving money.
3) BG3 will most likely coming out next year, so that will create more FR fans.
4) The SCAG and the Elemental Evil Player Guide aren't allowed for AL now, most likely because the contents are being fixed to be added to a FR Campaign Setting Guide.
5) Right now compared to Theros, Ravnica, and Eberron both FR and Ravenloft don't have proper setting suport for like over 90% of their settings, so its harder for dmsguild writers to write those setting, they are missing a key resource.
6) according to the last poll WotC has shared, the top most popular settings are the Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Planescape, Darksun, and Eberron. Eberron has a book. If they do say FR, Ravenloft, and either Darksun or Planescape, that is 4 out of 5 of their most popular settings done. That leaves either Darksun or Planescape for afterwards, along with tier 2 setting Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and Spelljammer.
7) It allows them to fix controversial things throughout the setting they are like Gurs, just like with Ravenloft and Vistani.
8) it's will make a ton of money
9) People have been asking for it for years
10) it will be useful to every single adventure they have already put out.
11) Most folks were unhappy with the SCAG and WotC knows it.
12) They clearly have been building up to another Realms Shaking Event, most likely with the goal of merging D&D and MtG cosmologies, making the setting even more in need of an update.
13) It would be the perfect time to re-launch the novel line.
14) They have learned so much from writing Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, Mythic Odysessys of Theros, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, and Eberron: Rising From The Last War, that they are very prepared for a Forgotten Realms Campaign book.
15) It would allow them to set anthologies across FR without causing problems, because it will provide both authors and DMs the knowledge required to write and use FR anywhere.
Another RSE? Hmm. The Second Sundering was supposedly the RSE to end RSEs. At least, that is what WotC said when they first launched it. But much has changed since then, so their minds could have changed, as well. Not sure how I feel about the merging of the MtG and FR cosmologies--maybe they're going to use the obelisks to do it. I'm pretty tired of them treating the lore of the setting so willy-nilly (yes, I like lore. Call me a purist, I don't care lol), but we'll see.
If they renewed the novel line, I would be seriously pumped lol.
Well dam. Was almost excited for a moment. Though I love that there is new content coming out that people like, I can't really say I'm all too excited. For context for what I'm about to say, I have only been a DM for about 4 years now so I can't say I am an all-knowing god who's opinion is even near being valid.
Now onto my main opinions on settings. Personally, I can not bring myself to play in most of these settings. While I think they are cool, they all stray away from what I want to play in D&D. Most of them are either MTG expansions, Ebberon or Forgotten Realms. MTG books, while had great content, never gave me much fun other than a few concepts to play around with. Ebberon, while cool, doesn't do much for me as i prefer more traditional fantasy games(though i like to put a twist in it,) and to be perfectly honest I hate Forgotten Realms. The lore? Impossible to keep up with and borderline retcons itself each edition. It's world feels boring, and ironically, feels to much like traditional fantasy with nothing to bring to the table really.
I personally would like to see WoTC to visit some older settings and play around with those, even if for one short book like Ghosts of Saltmarsh visiting Greyhawk for a bit. I would pay big money to see content for these settings in 5e. Perhaps a sand pirate adventure in the deserts of Athas for Dark Sun? A visit to Sigil for Planescape? Maybe trying to kill imposter clerics in Kyrnn for Dragonlance? For christ's sake, I don't care if you have to steal from the books!
For the new settings, like I said before I can bring myself to play there or care. Zendikar might do it for me if it can bring something new to the table(as Zendikar is pretty much the D&D setting for Magic). And for Ravenloft? Eh, haven't played CoS yet so I'll probably skip out on it. If there's a new Forgotten Realms book, I'll probably steal it as the basic lore makes a good base to work off of for my own homebrew settings.
TL;DR, Moron is glad to see everyone is excited for new sourcebooks and content for MTG and FG settings, but would prefer a blast from the past. Would be glad to see some discussion with this.
Even though Forgotten Realms is the default setting for 5e, I would love to see it treated with more authenticity to the setting (since some products have been either drastically changing lore--MToF--or are fairly setting-neutral). I would love an FR Campaign Guide along the lines of the 3.0 one, and more setting-specific books. Also I wouldn't mind some Planescape. Even though I am not too familiar with the setting, I do enjoy cosmology.
I certain a FR campaign book is coming.
1) To tie in with the MtG FR set and all the advantages to that.
2) hundreds of pieces of free art, payed for by the, MtG department, so it doesn't come out of D&D's budget. This was one of the things they loved about the Theros and Ravnica setting, piles of gorgeous card art to use in the books, saving money.
3) BG3 will most likely coming out next year, so that will create more FR fans.
4) The SCAG and the Elemental Evil Player Guide aren't allowed for AL now, most likely because the contents are being fixed to be added to a FR Campaign Setting Guide.
5) Right now compared to Theros, Ravnica, and Eberron both FR and Ravenloft don't have proper setting suport for like over 90% of their settings, so its harder for dmsguild writers to write those setting, they are missing a key resource.
6) according to the last poll WotC has shared, the top most popular settings are the Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Planescape, Darksun, and Eberron. Eberron has a book. If they do say FR, Ravenloft, and either Darksun or Planescape, that is 4 out of 5 of their most popular settings done. That leaves either Darksun or Planescape for afterwards, along with tier 2 setting Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and Spelljammer.
7) It allows them to fix controversial things throughout the setting they are like Gurs, just like with Ravenloft and Vistani.
8) it's will make a ton of money
9) People have been asking for it for years
10) it will be useful to every single adventure they have already put out.
11) Most folks were unhappy with the SCAG and WotC knows it.
12) They clearly have been building up to another Realms Shaking Event, most likely with the goal of merging D&D and MtG cosmologies, making the setting even more in need of an update.
13) It would be the perfect time to re-launch the novel line.
14) They have learned so much from writing Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, Mythic Odysessys of Theros, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, and Eberron: Rising From The Last War, that they are very prepared for a Forgotten Realms Campaign book.
15) It would allow them to set anthologies across FR without causing problems, because it will provide both authors and DMs the knowledge required to write and use FR anywhere.
Also, the event? It happened. Spoilers for Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden!
There was a hint of it with the Obilesks, but that is one possible option for how Frostmaiden ends, the full story of what happens with the Obilesks will likely unfold in the MtG FR set and a Forgotten Realms Campaign guide to milk that sweet, sweet, MtG art. Also remember there are a crap load of those Obilesks and it's not just FR that has them, so this might be more of a Multiverse Shaking Event then just a Realms Shaking Event, it's that FR will be central to what happens, perhaps with the greatest repercussions there, although I can see the planar travel rules loosening up for none planeswalkers in MtG settings.
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I hope I am wrong as I would love to see a Dark Sun book....
But they recently just removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd. Also I am not sure cannibalism is addressed in any form (other than some lore for lizardfolk) in 5e. Slavery seems like too taboo of a topic at this point for WotC.
Also having a setting where Wizards would be killed on sight? Overall just seems unlikely.
Overall I hope I am wrong though.
They removed the racist elements from Curse of Strahd because the Vistani are the embodiment of all the stereotypes of the Romani people, not because racism isn't allowed in D&D games/lore.
The killing wizards on sight didn't seem like a problem in previous editions, so why would it in 5e?
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Because they obviously love Wizards in this edition.
And the Mul are literally a race created to be slaves. That's pretty heavy for current culture.
*shrug*
I don't think any of that is a roadblock in bringing Dark Sun to 5e. If they decide they're not okay with enslaved half-dwarves, they can remove that from the setting.
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Icewind Dale spoiler:
In Icewind Dale, one of the options is a quest where the adventurers have been asked to "deal with" a Reghed tribe camp that has resorted to cannibalism (the tribe won't deal with it internally because of fears of cascading into a tribal civil war). It's explicitly stated that some of the children in the tribe have resorted to cannibalism and the community has consumed its elders and a number of travelers. And the adventure as written just says "deal with it". A non violent solution is possible but it's not the only or most obvious path to resolving the quest.
If Wizards can put text like that in, and have souls burned as fuel in other adventures, and undead that feed on flesh ... I'm pretty sure cannibalism in Dark Sun can be addressed. I think slavery as a manifestation of evil could be handled too. I could even see a cynical "have it both ways" move, where WotC telegraphs a warning for sensitive readers which will probably boost the market for players looking for grimdark content, which is a market....
I've written elsewhere that I think the problem will be the artwork for the original Dark Sun was very much riffs off the leather fetish community via Mad Max. I think they could still do that "dark" style of fashion, but would have to cut down the cheesecake. Instead of lots of exposed skin, I imagine figures clad more like the Erinyes are depicted in the Monster Manual. Same psychological tone, just less gratuitous.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Ah fair enough then. I would love some thri-kreen!
Even though Forgotten Realms is the default setting for 5e, I would love to see it treated with more authenticity to the setting (since some products have been either drastically changing lore--MToF--or are fairly setting-neutral). I would love an FR Campaign Guide along the lines of the 3.0 one, and more setting-specific books. Also I wouldn't mind some Planescape. Even though I am not too familiar with the setting, I do enjoy cosmology.
Ravenloft is a given, but I'd guess going to take one from the true classic (Greyhawk/Dragonlance/etc.) and one from outerworld setting (Planescape/Spelljammer)
Personally pulling for Greyhawk and Planescape myself. Would like a 5e version of the OG Greyhawk. And the planes need some lore and refinement. They've been mostly neglected in 5e so far except for a couple.
I'll freely admit that I clicked on that Icewind Dale Spoiler button purely in the hopes that it revealed news that an official 5E Dark Sun sourcebook was in the works.
I certain a FR campaign book is coming.
1) To tie in with the MtG FR set and all the advantages to that.
2) hundreds of pieces of free art, payed for by the, MtG department, so it doesn't come out of D&D's budget. This was one of the things they loved about the Theros and Ravnica setting, piles of gorgeous card art to use in the books, saving money.
3) BG3 will most likely coming out next year, so that will create more FR fans.
4) The SCAG and the Elemental Evil Player Guide aren't allowed for AL now, most likely because the contents are being fixed to be added to a FR Campaign Setting Guide.
5) Right now compared to Theros, Ravnica, and Eberron both FR and Ravenloft don't have proper setting suport for like over 90% of their settings, so its harder for dmsguild writers to write those setting, they are missing a key resource.
6) according to the last poll WotC has shared, the top most popular settings are the Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Planescape, Darksun, and Eberron. Eberron has a book. If they do say FR, Ravenloft, and either Darksun or Planescape, that is 4 out of 5 of their most popular settings done. That leaves either Darksun or Planescape for afterwards, along with tier 2 setting Dragonlance, Greyhawk, and Spelljammer.
7) It allows them to fix controversial things throughout the setting they are like Gurs, just like with Ravenloft and Vistani.
8) it's will make a ton of money
9) People have been asking for it for years
10) it will be useful to every single adventure they have already put out.
11) Most folks were unhappy with the SCAG and WotC knows it.
12) They clearly have been building up to another Realms Shaking Event, most likely with the goal of merging D&D and MtG cosmologies, making the setting even more in need of an update.
13) It would be the perfect time to re-launch the novel line.
14) They have learned so much from writing Explorer's Guide to Wildemount, Mythic Odysessys of Theros, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, and Eberron: Rising From The Last War, that they are very prepared for a Forgotten Realms Campaign book.
15) It would allow them to set anthologies across FR without causing problems, because it will provide both authors and DMs the knowledge required to write and use FR anywhere.
I WANNA VISTANI PLAYER RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If they are making a Vistani supplement, I will BUY IT! YAYYYYYYY!
I don't particularly like the idea of Dark Sun, but Dragonlance would be epic.
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Also, the event? It happened. Spoilers for Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden!
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Vistani would probably just be a subrace of humans, like the Dragonmarked races.
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There was a hint of it with the Obilesks, but that is one possible option for how Frostmaiden ends, the full story of what happens with the Obilesks will likely unfold in the MtG FR set and a Forgotten Realms Campaign guide to milk that sweet, sweet, MtG art. Also remember there are a crap load of those Obilesks and it's not just FR that has them, so this might be more of a Multiverse Shaking Event then just a Realms Shaking Event, it's that FR will be central to what happens, perhaps with the greatest repercussions there, although I can see the planar travel rules loosening up for none planeswalkers in MtG settings.
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MGT is already in the D&D Material Plane - all D&D adventures take place on it!
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Another RSE? Hmm. The Second Sundering was supposedly the RSE to end RSEs. At least, that is what WotC said when they first launched it. But much has changed since then, so their minds could have changed, as well. Not sure how I feel about the merging of the MtG and FR cosmologies--maybe they're going to use the obelisks to do it. I'm pretty tired of them treating the lore of the setting so willy-nilly (yes, I like lore. Call me a purist, I don't care lol), but we'll see.
If they renewed the novel line, I would be seriously pumped lol.
Well, the thing about the different crystal spheres is that their distance from each other is entirely how far the plot needs them to be.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Well dam. Was almost excited for a moment. Though I love that there is new content coming out that people like, I can't really say I'm all too excited. For context for what I'm about to say, I have only been a DM for about 4 years now so I can't say I am an all-knowing god who's opinion is even near being valid.
Now onto my main opinions on settings. Personally, I can not bring myself to play in most of these settings. While I think they are cool, they all stray away from what I want to play in D&D. Most of them are either MTG expansions, Ebberon or Forgotten Realms. MTG books, while had great content, never gave me much fun other than a few concepts to play around with. Ebberon, while cool, doesn't do much for me as i prefer more traditional fantasy games(though i like to put a twist in it,) and to be perfectly honest I hate Forgotten Realms. The lore? Impossible to keep up with and borderline retcons itself each edition. It's world feels boring, and ironically, feels to much like traditional fantasy with nothing to bring to the table really.
I personally would like to see WoTC to visit some older settings and play around with those, even if for one short book like Ghosts of Saltmarsh visiting Greyhawk for a bit. I would pay big money to see content for these settings in 5e. Perhaps a sand pirate adventure in the deserts of Athas for Dark Sun? A visit to Sigil for Planescape? Maybe trying to kill imposter clerics in Kyrnn for Dragonlance? For christ's sake, I don't care if you have to steal from the books!
For the new settings, like I said before I can bring myself to play there or care. Zendikar might do it for me if it can bring something new to the table(as Zendikar is pretty much the D&D setting for Magic). And for Ravenloft? Eh, haven't played CoS yet so I'll probably skip out on it. If there's a new Forgotten Realms book, I'll probably steal it as the basic lore makes a good base to work off of for my own homebrew settings.
TL;DR, Moron is glad to see everyone is excited for new sourcebooks and content for MTG and FG settings, but would prefer a blast from the past.
Would be glad to see some discussion with this.
please put the comment you just made in a spoiler.
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