I did message LaTiaJacquise with my feedback and in her reply she mentioned she's collecting feedback. While I know it's a not her decision so her hands are tied, I'm hoping that also indicates we'll get some official responses (and hopefully reversals) at some point.
While I'm sure she's doing what she can, she collected and forwarded feedback about a la carte too and WotC never bothered responding, so I wouldn't get your hopes up. WotC clearly aren't interested in communicating with their customers.
Yep. I'm aware. And if she learned about this change at the same as us, like with a la carte removal, I really pity the position she's in right now since I'm guessing there's been a lot of angry messages thrown her way too.
No, I still have many sourcebooks and adventures on my account and I will use them as I see fit for digital reference. I did unsubscribe from Master Tier though.
I remember during the OGL days that some people had their accounts deleted. I respect that level of commitment. Anyone here planning on having accounts deleted?
No, I still have many sourcebooks and adventures on my account and I will use them as I see fit for digital reference. I did unsubscribe from Master Tier though.
I just tried to go in and post homebrew copies of spells, races, and magic items. I keep getting a 404 error when i post anything. So no, we can't even do their work for them.
When you say post homebrew, do you mean to your private collection or publicly?
3+ year subscriber here, DM of several games and someone with over 100+ fully-made characters on the site. I almost never post due to RL being incredibly busy, but this planned change has earned my ire.
I'll make it plain to DDB's staff (and Wizards/Hasbro folks over them listening in) - if you make this change happen, I'm out. I don't care how much of a pain in the ass it's going to be going back to pen and paper, or porting everything over to R20, but if it means I'm not giving you any more money, then it's worth it out of spite.
I need DDB to be a tool that I can rely on, make characters in, and then come back to them a year, two years later, pop open a character sheet, and have them ready to go. If you want to make the 5.5E (or whatever we're calling it) accessible, that's fine - if it's opt in. If you force it on people, and screw up the tool we're counting on to run our games, you're undermining your whole business premise.
If I have to homebrew in the spells I want, what goddamn benefit was there to buying them in the first place? I bought spells and magic items a la carte (another pants-on-head stupid change, by the way!) for the express purposes of using the character builder and to have an easy lookup. Now I can't use the things I *expressly* bought in the builder, and lookup is now weird and convoluted?
I'll echo what others have said - this stinks like an attempt to coerce players into buying the new books. And this will definitely get worse with a recent interview from that one higher-up who wanted to make more money by enshrining power creep into the game. I know how to make Hasbro profitable - cut the executives recreational drug budget.
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Am I understanding correctly that existing sheets etc. will automatically pull the 2024 rules rather than the ones they were created with? So current characters, being played in campaigns built with and designed around the 2014 rules, will have to either be adapted to the new rules or be rebuilt to have every impacted element of the sheet saved as homebrew?
That's a lot of work to foist off on players who want to simply continue to use content that already exists in the site and could (and should!) be easily available. Beyond which, the absolute disrespect to paying subscribers is breathtaking. My gaming group and I have collectively spent hundreds of dollars on content here; to be informed now that those resources are going to be essentially unusable smells a lot like theft. We weren't RENTING those books.
I've been eyeballing subscriptions to cancel and tighten up my budget, and DDB just put themselves at the top of the list with this.
Just wanted to update this to make it clear to WotC/Hasbro: I did in fact just cancel my subscription. My spouse will be canceling his Master tier this evening as well, and multiple players in our current campaigns have confirmed they are doing so as well.
Welp, thanks for getting me to finally cancel my subscription. Only a few in my group use beyond for character sheet, so it would be dumb for half the group to be using 2024 version and the rest using what we are all used to. unless you have an option to toggle between the rulesets to keep using characters as they are now, I will not be resubscribing or buying new books
7 and a half years on this site, and master sub for most of it, oh well.
With this news I'll be cancelling my subscription and moving over to roll 20.. Wizards has made it abundantly clear that they don't want or deserve my money.
Sigh Looks like Ill have to cancel my Master tier subscription again. Should be a simple slider in the character creator/editor of which rule sets you plan to use. It would be way better and inclusive to the community to allow a legacy characters, on top of it will just drive traffic away from DnDB if people have to put a ton of work into home brew again just to get what they already had.
For example if I create a homebrew copy of healing word it lists the classes with cleric, bard, druid, and alchemist.
When the new PHB hits will those tags for cleric, bard, and druid refer to the current cleric/bard/druid or will they refer to the 5.5 versions?
I'm in the middle of going through the list creating homebrew copies and just realized this change might not be pre-homebrew friendly. And there's a chance that what I'm really homebrewing right now are copies of the spells to be used by 2024 versions of these classes, not the current ones that I want to keep using.
A quick poll of our 3 DMs have 2 of them saying players will just need to go back to using paper/pen, because they aren't converting to 2024 (and one is running an online game with players who don't own hardcopies). This sucks.
All three have now weighed in, none will be allowing any 2024 content in their current campaigns. That means that for my extended group, across 3 campaigns, we will no longer have any use for DnD Beyond. Since we can't use the online character sheets, and will have to go back to using paper/pen, and since it will be faster to look up info using our physical books instead of trying to find and search out legacy content buried behind several menus - there's simply no reason to continue using DnD Beyond.
Yep. I'm aware. And if she learned about this change at the same as us, like with a la carte removal, I really pity the position she's in right now since I'm guessing there's been a lot of angry messages thrown her way too.
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This is... truly bonkers that you think there is even a chance for this? Should the customers not get what they paid for?
No, I still have many sourcebooks and adventures on my account and I will use them as I see fit for digital reference. I did unsubscribe from Master Tier though.
No, I still have many sourcebooks and adventures on my account and I will use them as I see fit for digital reference. I did unsubscribe from Master Tier though.
Unsubscribed from Master Tier. I'll be happy to resubscribe when Legacy Spells are implemented without needing to use Homebrew.
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When you say post homebrew, do you mean to your private collection or publicly?
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Cool I'm updating my subscription to this website to unsubscribed.
I've done the same myself - unless they add legacy spells and magic items I see no reason to resubscribe.
What he said!!!
Wow - To say that this throws a potentially campaign-breaking goblin-wrench into all of our in progress campaigns is an understatement.
VERY not happy with WoTC right now.
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Terrible terrible choice, just a money grab attempt to push everybody to start buying the new content. Horrible. This company has gone downhill.
If I have to homebrew in the spells I want, what goddamn benefit was there to buying them in the first place? I bought spells and magic items a la carte (another pants-on-head stupid change, by the way!) for the express purposes of using the character builder and to have an easy lookup. Now I can't use the things I *expressly* bought in the builder, and lookup is now weird and convoluted?
I'll echo what others have said - this stinks like an attempt to coerce players into buying the new books. And this will definitely get worse with a recent interview from that one higher-up who wanted to make more money by enshrining power creep into the game. I know how to make Hasbro profitable - cut the executives recreational drug budget.
"I would sell you to Strahd for one corn chip"
-To the warlock in (coincidentally) our final session of CoS.
Just wanted to update this to make it clear to WotC/Hasbro: I did in fact just cancel my subscription. My spouse will be canceling his Master tier this evening as well, and multiple players in our current campaigns have confirmed they are doing so as well.
Welp, thanks for getting me to finally cancel my subscription. Only a few in my group use beyond for character sheet, so it would be dumb for half the group to be using 2024 version and the rest using what we are all used to. unless you have an option to toggle between the rulesets to keep using characters as they are now, I will not be resubscribing or buying new books
7 and a half years on this site, and master sub for most of it, oh well.
With this news I'll be cancelling my subscription and moving over to roll 20.. Wizards has made it abundantly clear that they don't want or deserve my money.
Sigh Looks like Ill have to cancel my Master tier subscription again. Should be a simple slider in the character creator/editor of which rule sets you plan to use. It would be way better and inclusive to the community to allow a legacy characters, on top of it will just drive traffic away from DnDB if people have to put a ton of work into home brew again just to get what they already had.
HOMEBREW QUESTION
Will the class tags still work like they do now?
For example if I create a homebrew copy of healing word it lists the classes with cleric, bard, druid, and alchemist.
When the new PHB hits will those tags for cleric, bard, and druid refer to the current cleric/bard/druid or will they refer to the 5.5 versions?
I'm in the middle of going through the list creating homebrew copies and just realized this change might not be pre-homebrew friendly. And there's a chance that what I'm really homebrewing right now are copies of the spells to be used by 2024 versions of these classes, not the current ones that I want to keep using.
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A quick poll of our 3 DMs have 2 of them saying players will just need to go back to using paper/pen, because they aren't converting to 2024 (and one is running an online game with players who don't own hardcopies). This sucks.All three have now weighed in, none will be allowing any 2024 content in their current campaigns. That means that for my extended group, across 3 campaigns, we will no longer have any use for DnD Beyond. Since we can't use the online character sheets, and will have to go back to using paper/pen, and since it will be faster to look up info using our physical books instead of trying to find and search out legacy content buried behind several menus - there's simply no reason to continue using DnD Beyond.
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This needs many more upvotes.
They've said the spells will be updated _everywhere in the toolset_.
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Annnnndddd... that's the end of my subscription.