In the Monster Manual, creatures that are Gargantuan are said to fill a 20 by 20 ft space or larger. When I see a creature listed as gargantuan in the MM, how can I tell if its supposed to be 20 x 20, or 30 x 30, or 40 x 40 or so on. Obviously for homebrew creatures I can just decide on my own, but for creatures in the MM, how do I tell what the intended size for these creatures actually is?
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The easiest thing to do is usually look for lore online. For example, the Tarrasque is 70ft long by 50ft tall, with a tail that accounts for about half it's length. So, from that, I would probably assign it a 30ft by 30ft foot print. (It's tail has a 20ft reach.)
My reasoning is that Humans are "5ft" tall, but usually have a ~3ft "combat stance". Especially long creatures, like Nagas, snakes, etc, are typically categorized according to their "coiled" dimensions, so extra long limbs only affect reach, not their base.
Given how large the tarrasque is, you can usually estimate most Gargantuan creatures as being within the 20~30ft range. Anything larger than that stops being a "token" and starts being a map feature. The difference between 35ft and 60ft diameter starts to become irrelevant.
Edit: With a 30ft x 30ft base and a 20ft reach, the Threat Area of a Tarrasque would be 70ft across.
There doesn't seem to be a particularly good correlation between size and space anyway. For example, a 10' Ogre is Large (10' space), but a 26' Storm Giant is only Huge (15' space).
It's all arbitrary, which is why there is an arbitrator at the table (the GM).
For monsters from mythology, use paintings and drawings. For example, the wikipedia page for kraken has a painting of a giant octopus. Comparing it to the barque (which are usually around 320ft LOA), I'm guessing the octopus' body is 80ft across (maybe 60ft, accounting for the angle of the boat).
The tarrasque in French mythology seems to be very small, about the size of a lion. If, however, you see the D&D tarraque as being Godzilla then you can go crazy. Wikipedia reports that in the 2017 movie, his height was 984 feet! I think his original 164 feet height (from the 1954 film) is probably better.
For the new blob of annihilation does anyone have a size on this thing because it says in the text that I could eat a kraken and walk away like no big deal could eat Grayhawk and it be no big deal. I mean like the table on what is in the blob of annihilation. Plus it comes back to life which probably means there is only one of them because every time it dies it comes because 1d20 years later some where on the material plane.
1 ambulance of planes, 2 an artifact of the DM‘s choice 3 the corpse of two Gods, that were in battle when the blob consumed them 4 a cubic gate 5 deck of many things 6 a magic key that opens a door in sigil that no other key and no spell can open 7 the preserved corpse of an empyrean 8 the remains of half a Kraken 9 skull of a death God 10 a tarrasque that just died.
Let’s talk about that because so of that is wild and I know it say to roll 1d10 but you should at least roll 3d10 the only reason it A hasn’t destroyed all of humanity and B have a higher challenge rating then 30 is because it has a speed of 30 feet which basically means ok you failed you can run away now where if dash away from a tarrasque you end up tarra-skewed with the range the tarrasque has. so can some on help me on this because this would be fun to use and let’s say the tarrasque inside of the blob of annihilation comes to life after the blob dies that would be a fun plot thing.
finally just just wanted to give the blob a real name for any one that read this. Boa should be the real name.
In the Monster Manual, creatures that are Gargantuan are said to fill a 20 by 20 ft space or larger. When I see a creature listed as gargantuan in the MM, how can I tell if its supposed to be 20 x 20, or 30 x 30, or 40 x 40 or so on. Obviously for homebrew creatures I can just decide on my own, but for creatures in the MM, how do I tell what the intended size for these creatures actually is?
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The easiest thing to do is usually look for lore online. For example, the Tarrasque is 70ft long by 50ft tall, with a tail that accounts for about half it's length. So, from that, I would probably assign it a 30ft by 30ft foot print. (It's tail has a 20ft reach.)
My reasoning is that Humans are "5ft" tall, but usually have a ~3ft "combat stance". Especially long creatures, like Nagas, snakes, etc, are typically categorized according to their "coiled" dimensions, so extra long limbs only affect reach, not their base.
Given how large the tarrasque is, you can usually estimate most Gargantuan creatures as being within the 20~30ft range. Anything larger than that stops being a "token" and starts being a map feature. The difference between 35ft and 60ft diameter starts to become irrelevant.
Edit: With a 30ft x 30ft base and a 20ft reach, the Threat Area of a Tarrasque would be 70ft across.
There doesn't seem to be a particularly good correlation between size and space anyway. For example, a 10' Ogre is Large (10' space), but a 26' Storm Giant is only Huge (15' space).
It's all arbitrary, which is why there is an arbitrator at the table (the GM).
For monsters from mythology, use paintings and drawings. For example, the wikipedia page for kraken has a painting of a giant octopus. Comparing it to the barque (which are usually around 320ft LOA), I'm guessing the octopus' body is 80ft across (maybe 60ft, accounting for the angle of the boat).
The tarrasque in French mythology seems to be very small, about the size of a lion. If, however, you see the D&D tarraque as being Godzilla then you can go crazy. Wikipedia reports that in the 2017 movie, his height was 984 feet! I think his original 164 feet height (from the 1954 film) is probably better.
For the new blob of annihilation does anyone have a size on this thing because it says in the text that I could eat a kraken and walk away like no big deal could eat Grayhawk and it be no big deal.
I mean like the table on what is in the blob of annihilation. Plus it comes back to life which probably means there is only one of them because every time it dies it comes because 1d20 years later some where on the material plane.
1 ambulance of planes, 2 an artifact of the DM‘s choice 3 the corpse of two Gods, that were in battle when the blob consumed them 4 a cubic gate 5 deck of many things 6 a magic key that opens a door in sigil that no other key and no spell can open 7 the preserved corpse of an empyrean 8 the remains of half a Kraken 9 skull of a death God 10 a tarrasque that just died.
Let’s talk about that because so of that is wild and I know it say to roll 1d10 but you should at least roll 3d10 the only reason it A hasn’t destroyed all of humanity and B have a higher challenge rating then 30 is because it has a speed of 30 feet which basically means ok you failed you can run away now where if dash away from a tarrasque you end up tarra-skewed with the range the tarrasque has.
so can some on help me on this because this would be fun to use and let’s say the tarrasque inside of the blob of annihilation comes to life after the blob dies that would be a fun plot thing.
finally just just wanted to give the blob a real name for any one that read this. Boa should be the real name.
Think about it it’s more like an acronym.