So a player has a robe of useful items with a window patch;
"Window (2 feet by 4 feet, up to 2 feet deep), which you can place on a vertical surface you can reach."
Can this be placed on a Wall of Force or a similar type of magically created vertical surface? I ask because the party will eventually encounter a trap space which will bring down several Walls of Force and begin filling the space with water. I would be surprised if they didn't ask about using the window.
I don't know how it should work. Ultimately you the DM would need to adjudicate it.
But... a window is a mundane object and would have some difficulty interacting in an expected way with a higher level magic spell.
However... A window from a robe of useful items might be inherently magical and interact with the wall of force in some way.
I suggest that you keep mum and let the party explain why their idea would work. If they have sound reasoning/convincing argument you may consider allowing whatever they come up with. You may also put the caveat that this is a highly unusual case and that the next occurrence may not necessarily have the same outcome.
I would personally allow the window to create a hole in the the wall of force. It makes intuitive sense and wall of force needs more counters from a balance and running the game perspective.
I suggest that you keep mum and let the party explain why their idea would work. If they have sound reasoning/convincing argument you may consider allowing whatever they come up with. You may also put the caveat that this is a highly unusual case and that the next occurrence may not necessarily have the same outcome.
It's players responsibility to come up with solutions the dm presents challenges and adjudicates the response. There is allot of freedom in that especially when talking about mechanics players dont have access to like some unknown magical wall spell cast by an unknown npc.
To me this feels like players requesting to have their cake and eat it too.
They get the advantage of a physically impenetrable barrier, but then want a window through which they can attack or move through themselves.
It's a really cool idea. I don't think I'd allow it, rather I'd encourage them to use the spell according to the way it's worded. The wall can be made of 10 - 10x10ft panels. There's no reason that a crafty player couldn't craft the wall in such a way that there are a few arrow-slit style gaps in the wall...the players then have a way to attack through the wall, or block off most but not all of the area they're trying to block. A mundane window then seems a little pointless. Although again they could conceivably construct the wall of force around the window by strategically placing the 10x10ft panels.
It's a cool thought experiment and I think I'd try and find out why the player in question wants to do this. What's their end goal here - what are they hoping for? That would help you better understand and adjudicate if it'll work. Or you could like many DMs just rule of cool it.
So a player has a robe of useful items with a window patch;
"Window (2 feet by 4 feet, up to 2 feet deep), which you can place on a vertical surface you can reach."
Can this be placed on a Wall of Force or a similar type of magically created vertical surface? I ask because the party will eventually encounter a trap space which will bring down several Walls of Force and begin filling the space with water. I would be surprised if they didn't ask about using the window.
Does anyone know how this should work?
I don't know how it should work. Ultimately you the DM would need to adjudicate it.
But... a window is a mundane object and would have some difficulty interacting in an expected way with a higher level magic spell.
However... A window from a robe of useful items might be inherently magical and interact with the wall of force in some way.
I suggest that you keep mum and let the party explain why their idea would work. If they have sound reasoning/convincing argument you may consider allowing whatever they come up with. You may also put the caveat that this is a highly unusual case and that the next occurrence may not necessarily have the same outcome.
I would personally allow the window to create a hole in the the wall of force. It makes intuitive sense and wall of force needs more counters from a balance and running the game perspective.
Generally though I agree with this:
It's players responsibility to come up with solutions the dm presents challenges and adjudicates the response. There is allot of freedom in that especially when talking about mechanics players dont have access to like some unknown magical wall spell cast by an unknown npc.
To me this feels like players requesting to have their cake and eat it too.
They get the advantage of a physically impenetrable barrier, but then want a window through which they can attack or move through themselves.
It's a really cool idea. I don't think I'd allow it, rather I'd encourage them to use the spell according to the way it's worded. The wall can be made of 10 - 10x10ft panels. There's no reason that a crafty player couldn't craft the wall in such a way that there are a few arrow-slit style gaps in the wall...the players then have a way to attack through the wall, or block off most but not all of the area they're trying to block. A mundane window then seems a little pointless. Although again they could conceivably construct the wall of force around the window by strategically placing the 10x10ft panels.
It's a cool thought experiment and I think I'd try and find out why the player in question wants to do this. What's their end goal here - what are they hoping for? That would help you better understand and adjudicate if it'll work. Or you could like many DMs just rule of cool it.
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