quick version If you are holding the target of an melee spell attack, would you make the player roll the attack?
Version longa I'm running a group 4 players (barbarian/fighter, wizard/cleric, rogue & warlock) level 3, I have them run into some highway men a pretty standard encounter( 4 bandit's & bandit Capt). That turned out pretty interesting the parties wizard/cleric actually went along with their demands and tried the escalating the situation. After some role-playing he ended up handing over his bag and money pouch which had his familiar in it (Tiny black). The money pouch was thrown to the banded capt, he failed perception check to notice the spider by the crawl out of baked onto his tunic. He quickly retreated behind behind the groups barbarian and continue to plead the party not to fight, well he had his familiar crawl up the back of the bandit captains. He cast inflict wounds through his familiar as his familiar was on the back of the panic and I do not have him roll attack, of course he rolls Max damage 40. Initiative was rolled at this point, combat began, bandit Capt goes second tries to swap the spider not knowing what it is on the back of his neck misses and charges forward doing to scimitar attacks against the rogue who drew his blowgun (thinking he may have shot him) on his turn he disengaged and dash. Then it was the cleric wizards turn and once again cast inflict wounds killing the banded captain. Then the barbarian/fighter kills a banded and severely injuring another so The remaining bandit's begin to run on their turn. Then it was the warlocks turn and he immediately begins confining about how the wizard cleric didn't have to roll to hit.
I don't think I was in the wrong, it was interesting approach to this account and the role played well.
Yes. But I will consider taking off dex modifier from target’s AC (if included), or just give attacker an advantage. It’s not an auto hit. Can be bounced off skin or other armor.
Also, casting a spell like inflict wounds isn’t a subtle action and it takes a few seconds. Unless you are a sorcerer with subtle spell, I would give the held target a reaction trying to break free.
The spider is already touching the guy, no doubt about it... no need to roll to make contact. As a DM I love to reward creative thinking in my players - truth is I'm their biggest fan.
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quick version
If you are holding the target of an melee spell attack, would you make the player roll the attack?
Version longa
I'm running a group 4 players (barbarian/fighter, wizard/cleric, rogue & warlock) level 3, I have them run into some highway men a pretty standard encounter( 4 bandit's & bandit Capt). That turned out pretty interesting the parties wizard/cleric actually went along with their demands and tried the escalating the situation. After some role-playing he ended up handing over his bag and money pouch which had his familiar in it (Tiny black). The money pouch was thrown to the banded capt, he failed perception check to notice the spider by the crawl out of baked onto his tunic. He quickly retreated behind behind the groups barbarian and continue to plead the party not to fight, well he had his familiar crawl up the back of the bandit captains. He cast inflict wounds through his familiar as his familiar was on the back of the panic and I do not have him roll attack, of course he rolls Max damage 40. Initiative was rolled at this point, combat began, bandit Capt goes second tries to swap the spider not knowing what it is on the back of his neck misses and charges forward doing to scimitar attacks against the rogue who drew his blowgun (thinking he may have shot him) on his turn he disengaged and dash. Then it was the cleric wizards turn and once again cast inflict wounds killing the banded captain. Then the barbarian/fighter kills a banded and severely injuring another so The remaining bandit's begin to run on their turn. Then it was the warlocks turn and he immediately begins confining about how the wizard cleric didn't have to roll to hit.
I don't think I was in the wrong, it was interesting approach to this account and the role played well.
Yes. But I will consider taking off dex modifier from target’s AC (if included), or just give attacker an advantage. It’s not an auto hit. Can be bounced off skin or other armor.
Also, casting a spell like inflict wounds isn’t a subtle action and it takes a few seconds. Unless you are a sorcerer with subtle spell, I would give the held target a reaction trying to break free.
I would do it exactly the way you did.
The spider is already touching the guy, no doubt about it... no need to roll to make contact.
As a DM I love to reward creative thinking in my players - truth is I'm their biggest fan.
...cryptographic randomness!