I've never been particularly interested in this specific magic item, the philter of love, but when reading it's description a bit ago I noticed that it mentions nothing about the creature knowing they were charmed when the effect wears off. The Charm Person spell specifically states this, so would that mean that because it isn't mentioned, the creature doesn't know they were charmed?
Also, there very well could be a tweet from Jeremy Crawford about this, but I don't use twitter so if so I haven't seen it.
Traditionally if it is not mentioned in the item description then it is not valid. In addition, the 'charmed' condition is applied when using the Philter the individual in question does not know they've been charmed when the condition ends.
I think that the way this item works, their sudden and overwhelming belief that someone is the love of their life (which abruptly ends) will tip them off that they were under a magical influence.
I think that the way this item works, their sudden and overwhelming belief that someone is the love of their life (which abruptly ends) will tip them off that they were under a magical influence.
Maybe. You've never had any instant regret moments? For that matter, people have had plenty of past relationships where after they say "I don't know what I ever saw in them."
Traditionally if it is not mentioned in the item description then it is not valid. In addition, the 'charmed' condition is applied when using the Philter the individual in question does not know they've been charmed when the condition ends.
Thanks, I figured as much but was curious if there was a sage advice or tweet that said otherwise. Thanks!
I think that the way this item works, their sudden and overwhelming belief that someone is the love of their life (which abruptly ends) will tip them off that they were under a magical influence.
Maybe. You've never had any instant regret moments? For that matter, people have had plenty of past relationships where after they say "I don't know what I ever saw in them."
This, like everything in D&D is open to interpretation, but "If the creature is of a species and gender you are normally attracted to, you regard it as your true love " is different to being charmed, and whilst people fall out of love with someone the entire experience is never limited to a specific 1 hour duration. To suddenly discover your "true love" has no governing rules, but the idea behind the item is clearly that they fall in love as per a Midsummer Night's Dream effect. The affected character is going to be suddenly obsessed with this realisation to the exclusion of most other concerns. This should be regarded as among the most intense emotional experiences that the character has ever felt.
The charm effect lasts only 1 hour. The moment that the feeling wears off - which could happen even with the creature in front of them - they aren't going to think "Gosh, I was a bit over eager with that one."
This will be especially true for characters who are already in love with someone else! It's probably irrelevant anyway, as I can't imagine a DM afflicting a PC or NPC with this if they weren't planning for the "regard them as your true love" effect isn't supposed to be comically over the top.
As a DM I think there should be some awareness, like the morning after effect when 'some people' not me of course, find themselves with someone they wouldn't normally be attracted to except for those extra few drinks, etc. You are aware that something affected your choice, but maybe not what - especially if there were another explanation. I would have to consider any potential alternative explanations the player may have presented, or set the scene with to be implied. It could also depend on the affected's prior behavior, is it normal for this to happen to them, or completely unusual.
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I've never been particularly interested in this specific magic item, the philter of love, but when reading it's description a bit ago I noticed that it mentions nothing about the creature knowing they were charmed when the effect wears off. The Charm Person spell specifically states this, so would that mean that because it isn't mentioned, the creature doesn't know they were charmed?
Also, there very well could be a tweet from Jeremy Crawford about this, but I don't use twitter so if so I haven't seen it.
Traditionally if it is not mentioned in the item description then it is not valid. In addition, the 'charmed' condition is applied when using the Philter the individual in question does not know they've been charmed when the condition ends.
I think that the way this item works, their sudden and overwhelming belief that someone is the love of their life (which abruptly ends) will tip them off that they were under a magical influence.
Maybe. You've never had any instant regret moments? For that matter, people have had plenty of past relationships where after they say "I don't know what I ever saw in them."
Thanks, I figured as much but was curious if there was a sage advice or tweet that said otherwise. Thanks!
This, like everything in D&D is open to interpretation, but "If the creature is of a species and gender you are normally attracted to, you regard it as your true love " is different to being charmed, and whilst people fall out of love with someone the entire experience is never limited to a specific 1 hour duration. To suddenly discover your "true love" has no governing rules, but the idea behind the item is clearly that they fall in love as per a Midsummer Night's Dream effect. The affected character is going to be suddenly obsessed with this realisation to the exclusion of most other concerns. This should be regarded as among the most intense emotional experiences that the character has ever felt.
The charm effect lasts only 1 hour. The moment that the feeling wears off - which could happen even with the creature in front of them - they aren't going to think "Gosh, I was a bit over eager with that one."
This will be especially true for characters who are already in love with someone else! It's probably irrelevant anyway, as I can't imagine a DM afflicting a PC or NPC with this if they weren't planning for the "regard them as your true love" effect isn't supposed to be comically over the top.
Hmm, interesting.
As a DM I think there should be some awareness, like the morning after effect when 'some people' not me of course, find themselves with someone they wouldn't normally be attracted to except for those extra few drinks, etc. You are aware that something affected your choice, but maybe not what - especially if there were another explanation. I would have to consider any potential alternative explanations the player may have presented, or set the scene with to be implied. It could also depend on the affected's prior behavior, is it normal for this to happen to them, or completely unusual.