Is the combination of Shadow Blade and Steel Wind Strike possible to generate advantage on the melee spell attacks of SWS if the targets are in dim light or darkness (let us say that the SB can be used as a material component for SWS* - I know some of you might disagree)?
If you have any other suggestions for getting advantage on SWS attacks please let me know (I am playing a bladesinger wizard).
Links to consider:
Jeremy Crawford (on twitter)says that with SWS you teleport between targets, blinking into view as you make the attack
(*Jeremy Crawford (twitter) - Shadow Blade is still compatible with Booming blade => therefore should be viable for SWS)
RAW, no... Steel Wind Strike's Material component is "a melee weapon worth at least 1 sp". This means that magically conjured weapons do not qualify for the casting of this spell.
If it wasn't for that detail, I'd say that it doesn't fulfill the conditions for Advantage from Shadow Blade. It's one of those things that doesn't full make sense... but Steel Wind Strike produces a unique attack that deals Force Damage. It is not, strictly speaking, an actual attack using the weapon that you use to make the attack. It's an attack unique to the spell itself that just uses a weapon as a material component. Contrast it with Green Flame Blade, which specifically states that the weapon used to cast the spell is also used to make a melee attack with that weapon.
Is the combination of Shadow Blade and Steel Wind Strike possible to generate advantage on the melee spell attacks of SWS if the targets are in dim light or darkness (let us say that the SB can be used as a material component for SWS* - I know some of you might disagree)?
No because Shadow Blade creates a sword for you to make ranged or melee weapon attacks with and Steel Wind Strike , despite using a weapon as material component, makes melee spell attacks without using any weapon whatsoever in the attack.
RAW, no... Steel Wind Strike's Material component is "a melee weapon worth at least 1 sp". This means that magically conjured weapons do not qualify for the casting of this spell.
This is false. Your DM will tell you if something has a value or not. If he decides a magically conjured blade is worth at least 1sp, then it is. If he says it has no value, then it doesn't.
If it wasn't for that detail, I'd say that it doesn't fulfill the conditions for Advantage from Shadow Blade. It's one of those things that doesn't full make sense... but Steel Wind Strike produces a unique attack that deals Force Damage. It is not, strictly speaking, an actual attack using the weapon that you use to make the attack.
This is true. Steel Wind Strike doesn't use the weapon, the weapon's properties, damage, proficiency, anything at all. It is a spell effect only. There is no real difference between this type of spell and something like shocking grasp or whatever. It is a spell attack.
It's an attack unique to the spell itself that just uses a weapon as a material component. Contrast it with Green Flame Blade, which specifically states that the weapon used to cast the spell is also used to make a melee attack with that weapon.
Yeah, it is an odd spell for sure.
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I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
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Is the combination of Shadow Blade and Steel Wind Strike possible to generate advantage on the melee spell attacks of SWS if the targets are in dim light or darkness (let us say that the SB can be used as a material component for SWS* - I know some of you might disagree)?
If you have any other suggestions for getting advantage on SWS attacks please let me know (I am playing a bladesinger wizard).
Links to consider:
(*Jeremy Crawford (twitter) - Shadow Blade is still compatible with Booming blade => therefore should be viable for SWS)
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RAW, no... Steel Wind Strike's Material component is "a melee weapon worth at least 1 sp". This means that magically conjured weapons do not qualify for the casting of this spell.
If it wasn't for that detail, I'd say that it doesn't fulfill the conditions for Advantage from Shadow Blade. It's one of those things that doesn't full make sense... but Steel Wind Strike produces a unique attack that deals Force Damage. It is not, strictly speaking, an actual attack using the weapon that you use to make the attack. It's an attack unique to the spell itself that just uses a weapon as a material component. Contrast it with Green Flame Blade, which specifically states that the weapon used to cast the spell is also used to make a melee attack with that weapon.
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No because Shadow Blade creates a sword for you to make ranged or melee weapon attacks with and Steel Wind Strike , despite using a weapon as material component, makes melee spell attacks without using any weapon whatsoever in the attack.
This is false. Your DM will tell you if something has a value or not. If he decides a magically conjured blade is worth at least 1sp, then it is. If he says it has no value, then it doesn't.
This is true. Steel Wind Strike doesn't use the weapon, the weapon's properties, damage, proficiency, anything at all. It is a spell effect only. There is no real difference between this type of spell and something like shocking grasp or whatever. It is a spell attack.
Yeah, it is an odd spell for sure.
I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.