A little confused on how rope trick works. Specially the opening or portal. It is saying that you can enter by climbing the rope, witch you can pull into the portal. Does that mean that the portal is only accessible thru the use of the rope? Like if it would be obvious that you could enter the portal by flying into it or jumping into it, why specify the rope interaction? Why not state that the rope is attached to the portal but it remains open although invisible.
My main argument is that RAI, it's describing the rope to be the specific way to access the portal. Otherwise, why state something that would be "obvious" in the spell?
The spell does not say that the rope is the only way to access the portal, so the portal can be accessed by passing through it in other ways.
The reason the rope thing is called out specifically is that the portal is described as invisible, meaning that in the absence of the rope you generally don't have any way of knowing it's there. The rope allows you to access it easily, but it is possible for someone to pass through without the rope accidentally, or purposefully if they figure out where it is (through watching someone else enter it, or having some way of seeing invisible things). This is pretty unlikely to ever happen in practice, but it is possible.
Ok. That makes sense. So if it's always open and you use it in combat, it be better to use it against someone or something that is to big to pass through no? Provided they don't ready action to attack when you pop out lol.
Yeah, I suppose so. I don't think it's really intended as a spell to use in combat, unless you think you're really in danger of everyone being killed and can't escape in some other way.
Ok. That makes sense. So if it's always open and you use it in combat, it be better to use it against someone or something that is to big to pass through no? Provided they don't ready action to attack when you pop out lol.
How would you use it in combat? Unless you're benefiting from the fly spell or else wise have a flys peed, it would be difficult to enter/exit the portal and attacking while holding on to a rope would have most DMs giving disadvantage on any attempted attacks. I am also curious if trying to enter a portal counts as leaving the "reach" of a creature, it's an unusual situation.
You could use it to launch surprise, that is one combat usage, if you're in a corridor with a ceiling that is less then 10 foot high (say 8 foot) you could use rope trick to hide in the ceiling and when a creature passes it, jump out and attack. But I don't think jumping in/out is really viable, else you'd need to climb and that just risks the creatures itself getting into the portal while the rope is visible.
I'm sorry. By pop out I ment exiting. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of strategy. Like giving the squishy party members a place to be so the enemy has to make the choice to go after them and ignore the heavy hitters of the party, or giving a makeshift cover for the wizard for example. My guess is it could have some worth in combat but it's not full proof of course.
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A little confused on how rope trick works. Specially the opening or portal. It is saying that you can enter by climbing the rope, witch you can pull into the portal. Does that mean that the portal is only accessible thru the use of the rope? Like if it would be obvious that you could enter the portal by flying into it or jumping into it, why specify the rope interaction? Why not state that the rope is attached to the portal but it remains open although invisible.
My main argument is that RAI, it's describing the rope to be the specific way to access the portal. Otherwise, why state something that would be "obvious" in the spell?
Please help. Thank you!
The spell does not say that the rope is the only way to access the portal, so the portal can be accessed by passing through it in other ways.
The reason the rope thing is called out specifically is that the portal is described as invisible, meaning that in the absence of the rope you generally don't have any way of knowing it's there. The rope allows you to access it easily, but it is possible for someone to pass through without the rope accidentally, or purposefully if they figure out where it is (through watching someone else enter it, or having some way of seeing invisible things). This is pretty unlikely to ever happen in practice, but it is possible.
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Ok. That makes sense. So if it's always open and you use it in combat, it be better to use it against someone or something that is to big to pass through no? Provided they don't ready action to attack when you pop out lol.
Yeah, I suppose so. I don't think it's really intended as a spell to use in combat, unless you think you're really in danger of everyone being killed and can't escape in some other way.
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How would you use it in combat? Unless you're benefiting from the fly spell or else wise have a flys peed, it would be difficult to enter/exit the portal and attacking while holding on to a rope would have most DMs giving disadvantage on any attempted attacks. I am also curious if trying to enter a portal counts as leaving the "reach" of a creature, it's an unusual situation.
You could use it to launch surprise, that is one combat usage, if you're in a corridor with a ceiling that is less then 10 foot high (say 8 foot) you could use rope trick to hide in the ceiling and when a creature passes it, jump out and attack. But I don't think jumping in/out is really viable, else you'd need to climb and that just risks the creatures itself getting into the portal while the rope is visible.
I'm sorry. By pop out I ment exiting. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of strategy. Like giving the squishy party members a place to be so the enemy has to make the choice to go after them and ignore the heavy hitters of the party, or giving a makeshift cover for the wizard for example. My guess is it could have some worth in combat but it's not full proof of course.