Me and my dungeon master are having an argument how clone(the lvl 8 spell) works.
His definition goes as follows:
"Okay, so you make a clone that reaches full i'm assuming the selected age in 120 days and then proceeds to age normally. That clone looks identical, has the same persona, and basically everything the original has. After it is created the clone begins to live its own life either with or without the original."
I believe that the clone serves as a husk until the original dies. After death, the original's soul enters the clone and animates it. I believe it works kinda like a second life in video games would.
My dungeon master thinks the clone is kind of like a baby. He believes that the clone is just unconscious, since it doesn't have a soul to power it. He thinks after the original dies, the clone gets a soul, and the clone lives life as it's own unique person, being powered by the original's soul. He believes that the clone, while being developed, needs food, water, air, can poo, and all the other things needed for life.
Which one of us is right according to the actual rules?
This spell grows an inert duplicate of a living creature as a safeguard against death. This clone forms inside a sealed vessel and grows to full size and maturity after 120 days; you can also choose to have the clone be a younger version of the same creature. It remains inert and endures indefinitely, as long as its vessel remains undisturbed.
Note the word inert.
You're right, but he's the DM.
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The way I see it, the clone remains inert until the original dies and the soul goes into the clone. The spell description says:
This clone forms inside a sealed vessel and grows to full size and maturity after 120 days; you can also choose to have the clone be a younger version of the same creature. It remains inert and endures indefinitely, as long as its vessel remains undisturbed.
So you don't have to feed it, it stays in the vessel and does nothing.
Yeah, and that can be a really rough spot to be in. Some DM's don't realize that "the DM is the final arbiter of rules" and "change any rule you don't like" aren't actually intended to be read as "the DM is an infallible overlord that is automatically and unquestionably right, and does not need to care what their players' opinions and preferences might be."
Because it's one thing to house-rule a spell into having far more complications than as written, and a completely different thing to have no actual clue what you are talking about but use "I'm right because I'm the DM" as a cover. The former is fine, assuming the whole group got to weigh in on using that house-rule rather than having it forced upon them. The latter is something that prevents a DM from being the best DM they can be, and should be corrected by players pointing out that "my way or the highway" really means picking who gets to have a bad day (the players stuck with arbitrary rules, or the DM with nobody to play with) which is not how games and/or hobbies should work.
Me and my dungeon master are having an argument how clone(the lvl 8 spell) works.
His definition goes as follows:
"Okay, so you make a clone that reaches full i'm assuming the selected age in 120 days and then proceeds to age normally. That clone looks identical, has the same persona, and basically everything the original has. After it is created the clone begins to live its own life either with or without the original."
I believe that the clone serves as a husk until the original dies. After death, the original's soul enters the clone and animates it. I believe it works kinda like a second life in video games would.
My dungeon master thinks the clone is kind of like a baby. He believes that the clone is just unconscious, since it doesn't have a soul to power it. He thinks after the original dies, the clone gets a soul, and the clone lives life as it's own unique person, being powered by the original's soul. He believes that the clone, while being developed, needs food, water, air, can poo, and all the other things needed for life.
Which one of us is right according to the actual rules?
clone
Note the word inert.
You're right, but he's the DM.
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" -- allegedly Benjamin Franklin
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The way I see it, the clone remains inert until the original dies and the soul goes into the clone. The spell description says:
So you don't have to feed it, it stays in the vessel and does nothing.
He might be thinking of Simulacrum, which creates an autonomous duplicate (that is still bound to your will)