I just realized that somebody with the War Caster feat might be able to cast a helpful spell such as cure wounds or death ward as a reaction when an ally leaves their reach. However, the text of War Caster, and I believe the rules for opportunity attacks which it relies on as well, say that a creature must be hostile to provoke this reaction. It just seems silly to me that you could technically cast a healing spell as a reaction if and only if the person you are casting it on is really angry. My questions are twofold, and as follows; would you let a player use this (probably) unintended application of the feat, and what could be some of the most helpful reaction spells if it were allowed?
Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny. Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
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When a hostile creature's movement provokes an opportunity attack from you, you can use your reaction to cast a spell at the creature, rather than making an opportunity attack. The spell must have a casting time of 1 action and must target only that creature.
You can't use War Caster to cast a beneficial spell on an ally as a reaction. All it can do is cast spells on enemies. There's no unintended application.
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Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
When a hostile creature's movement provokes an opportunity attack from you, you can use your reaction to cast a spell at the creature, rather than making an opportunity attack. The spell must have a casting time of 1 action and must target only that creature.
You can't use War Caster to cast a beneficial spell on an ally as a reaction. All it can do is cast spells on enemies. There's no unintended application.
It feels weird that you can do more to help your enemies than your friends just because of the fact that they're your enemies.
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Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny. Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
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Reactions are a weird thing: you can hit a door with an axe once every six seconds but if it starts provoking opportunity attacks you can hit it twice as often. How does that make sense?
War Caster is intended to let a spellcaster like a wizard use their reaction to do something more dangerous than poke at an enemy with a dagger since their melee attacks are often going to be unimpressive. If you want to cast a buff spell on your opponent instead of some flavor of elemental death you technically can but it's hard to think of a reason to do so.
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Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
I still like the idea of casting Haste on the enemy and then dropping concentration, of course you'd have to convince the enemy to be willing at the time it was provoking an opportunity attack. Maybe "Here, I'll make you go fast since you are running away" would let you trick a creature to be a willing target.
Casting a spell as a reaction for an Op Attack works, but not healing your buddies.
Reactive Spell.When a creature provokes an Opportunity Attack from you by leaving your reach, you can take a Reaction to cast a spell at the creature rather than making an Opportunity Attack. The spell must have a casting time of one action and must target only that creature.
Casting a spell as a reaction for an Op Attack works, but not healing your buddies.
Reactive Spell.When a creature provokes an Opportunity Attack from you by leaving your reach, you can take a Reaction to cast a spell at the creature rather than making an Opportunity Attack. The spell must have a casting time of one action and must target only that creature.
The argument is that since it doesn't say "a hostile creature" anymore, you can use a reaction to cast a healing spell at an ally that moves out of your reach.
I don't think this is really intended and I probably wouldn't allow it at my table, but you can make an argument that it's allowed under RAW in the 2024 version.
One can also make the argument that only hostile creatures provoke opportunity attacks.
Well, again, that's how I generally rule it, but the specific language around this did actually change in the 2024 rules and a strict reading of it says that this is no longer required.
In the 2014 Player's Handbook, it said you can make an opportunity attack "when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach".
In the 2024 Player's Handbook, it says you can make an opportunity attack "when a creature that you can see leaves your reach". The word "hostile" was removed.
Casting a spell as a reaction for an Op Attack works, but not healing your buddies.
Reactive Spell.When a creature provokes an Opportunity Attack from you by leaving your reach, you can take a Reaction to cast a spell at the creature rather than making an Opportunity Attack. The spell must have a casting time of one action and must target only that creature.
Personally, Warcaster is broken. I learned this after my friend cast Power Word Kill on me after I left his reach
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A spellcaster of 17th level or higher is rather broken already.
But it gets more broken for the reason i said above
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Eh, not really. It's not like the feat lets you cast more 9th level spells than you already could.
there are ways of doing that
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"The Biggest problem D&D player face is their own bad decisions." "What doesn't kill you makes you more likely to die."- Thauraeln_The_Bol "Well, hey, if it ain't broke, then break it!"Former_Queen_Yvonne See my homebrew spells, monsters, and this thread part of the cult of science, and the Cult of the Nothic, and plays on Tenbrae Sine Fine Please help us!!! (Link) Nickname is Colton. PM ME THE WORD TOMATO. The best name for the mad gibber
Personally, Warcaster is broken. I learned this after my friend cast Power Word Kill on me after I left his reach
You seem to have an unusual definition of friend. Also, in a campaign where that sort of thing happens, you should really be able to tank a power word kill.
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I just realized that somebody with the War Caster feat might be able to cast a helpful spell such as cure wounds or death ward as a reaction when an ally leaves their reach. However, the text of War Caster, and I believe the rules for opportunity attacks which it relies on as well, say that a creature must be hostile to provoke this reaction. It just seems silly to me that you could technically cast a healing spell as a reaction if and only if the person you are casting it on is really angry. My questions are twofold, and as follows; would you let a player use this (probably) unintended application of the feat, and what could be some of the most helpful reaction spells if it were allowed?
Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny.
Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
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You can't use War Caster to cast a beneficial spell on an ally as a reaction. All it can do is cast spells on enemies. There's no unintended application.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
It feels weird that you can do more to help your enemies than your friends just because of the fact that they're your enemies.
Look at what you've done. You spoiled it. You have nobody to blame but yourself. Go sit and think about your actions.
Don't be mean. Rudeness is a vicious cycle, and it has to stop somewhere. Exceptions for things that are funny.
Go to the current Competition of the Finest 'Brews! It's a cool place where cool people make cool things.
How I'm posting based on text formatting: Mod Hat Off - Mod Hat Also Off (I'm not a mod)
Reactions are a weird thing: you can hit a door with an axe once every six seconds but if it starts provoking opportunity attacks you can hit it twice as often. How does that make sense?
War Caster is intended to let a spellcaster like a wizard use their reaction to do something more dangerous than poke at an enemy with a dagger since their melee attacks are often going to be unimpressive. If you want to cast a buff spell on your opponent instead of some flavor of elemental death you technically can but it's hard to think of a reason to do so.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Hostile creatures are inclined to get in your way, which is the opposite of what an ally PC is.
It also feels weird to want to help your enemies in this circumstance.
"Not all those who wander are lost"
I still like the idea of casting Haste on the enemy and then dropping concentration, of course you'd have to convince the enemy to be willing at the time it was provoking an opportunity attack. Maybe "Here, I'll make you go fast since you are running away" would let you trick a creature to be a willing target.
If the GM even entertained that idea it would probably require a DC 30+ Deception check. And it's a rather weak use of a 3rd level spell slot.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
This works under the 2024 rules.
Casting a spell as a reaction for an Op Attack works, but not healing your buddies.
Reactive Spell. When a creature provokes an Opportunity Attack from you by leaving your reach, you can take a Reaction to cast a spell at the creature rather than making an Opportunity Attack. The spell must have a casting time of one action and must target only that creature.
The argument is that since it doesn't say "a hostile creature" anymore, you can use a reaction to cast a healing spell at an ally that moves out of your reach.
I don't think this is really intended and I probably wouldn't allow it at my table, but you can make an argument that it's allowed under RAW in the 2024 version.
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One can also make the argument that only hostile creatures provoke opportunity attacks.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Well, again, that's how I generally rule it, but the specific language around this did actually change in the 2024 rules and a strict reading of it says that this is no longer required.
In the 2014 Player's Handbook, it said you can make an opportunity attack "when a hostile creature that you can see moves out of your reach".
In the 2024 Player's Handbook, it says you can make an opportunity attack "when a creature that you can see leaves your reach". The word "hostile" was removed.
pronouns: he/she/they
Personally, Warcaster is broken. I learned this after my friend cast Power Word Kill on me after I left his reach
"The Biggest problem D&D player face is their own bad decisions." "What doesn't kill you makes you more likely to die."- Thauraeln_The_Bol "Well, hey, if it ain't broke, then break it!"Former_Queen_Yvonne
See my homebrew spells, monsters, and this thread
part of the cult of science, and the Cult of the Nothic, and plays on Tenbrae Sine Fine
Please help us!!! (Link) Nickname is Colton. PM ME THE WORD TOMATO.
The best name for the mad gibber
A spellcaster of 17th level or higher is rather broken already.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
But it gets more broken for the reason i said above
"The Biggest problem D&D player face is their own bad decisions." "What doesn't kill you makes you more likely to die."- Thauraeln_The_Bol "Well, hey, if it ain't broke, then break it!"Former_Queen_Yvonne
See my homebrew spells, monsters, and this thread
part of the cult of science, and the Cult of the Nothic, and plays on Tenbrae Sine Fine
Please help us!!! (Link) Nickname is Colton. PM ME THE WORD TOMATO.
The best name for the mad gibber
Eh, not really. It's not like the feat lets you cast more 9th level spells than you already could.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
there are ways of doing that
"The Biggest problem D&D player face is their own bad decisions." "What doesn't kill you makes you more likely to die."- Thauraeln_The_Bol "Well, hey, if it ain't broke, then break it!"Former_Queen_Yvonne
See my homebrew spells, monsters, and this thread
part of the cult of science, and the Cult of the Nothic, and plays on Tenbrae Sine Fine
Please help us!!! (Link) Nickname is Colton. PM ME THE WORD TOMATO.
The best name for the mad gibber
Citation needed.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
You seem to have an unusual definition of friend. Also, in a campaign where that sort of thing happens, you should really be able to tank a power word kill.