The illusion becomes an object, it does not make an object nothing. It cannot replace the physical wall.
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Nothing about any illusion spell or the Illusory Reality feature lets you remove any part of any real object. The illusion of the door would appear and be made real, but once you open it, the wall would still be behind it.
A DM might rule that the door just falls over as soon as it becomes real since it can’t be attached to anything, but I don’t think that would be very interesting.
A DM might rule that the door just falls over as soon as it becomes real since it can’t be attached to anything, but I don’t think that would be very interesting.
I think you can still prop it as part of the illusion - the illusion stays where you put it, even when made semi-real by Illusory reality. This is why if you make major image of an ogre with a club, you can make the club real and it can still be moved and wielded by the not-real ogre.
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Now, can you create a door that opens with Mirage Arcane? It says that you can create structures with the spell, and parts of the structures or landscape that a PC removes would just disappear, but a door that is opened is not "removed" so much as it is adjusted in position.
Now, can you create a door that opens with Mirage Arcane? It says that you can create structures with the spell, and parts of the structures or landscape that a PC removes would just disappear, but a door that is opened is not "removed" so much as it is adjusted in position.
Mirage Arcane modifies senses to make you see, smell, feel etc, but not does not actually change the terrain. What is there is still there, even if you make it invisible. You can remove things from sight to appear as if not there, but that's all it is, an appearance: the wall still blocks you. You won't feel the wall, so you probably won't know why you can't pass through, but you still won't pass through.
This is illusion, not transmutation.
If you want to make a door use Stone Shape, if you want to just make a passage use Passwall. Illusions cannot make actual holes. It can alter your senses but it cannot actually alter structures.
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E.g.: you can use mirage arcane to turn a meadow into a lake. People will see a lake, they're jump in and they'll feel the water, struggle to breathe beneath the surface, and swim about happily. What is actually happening is a bunch of people crawling in the grass pretending to splash or drown or whatever.
You could make a clear road look thorny, full of logs, and debris to step over to slow them down. What is actually happening is a person slowly stepping over things not there, acting like they're getting snagged or tripping themselves up (they think it was a rock, it wasn't, so they just throw themselves to the floor).
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E.g.: you can use mirage arcane to turn a meadow into a lake. People will see a lake, they're jump in and they'll feel the water, struggle to breathe beneath the surface, and swim about happily. What is actually happening is a bunch of people crawling in the grass pretending to splash or drown or whatever.
It should be noted that you can drown in an illusory lake created by Mirage Arcane
E.g.: you can use mirage arcane to turn a meadow into a lake. People will see a lake, they're jump in and they'll feel the water, struggle to breathe beneath the surface, and swim about happily. What is actually happening is a bunch of people crawling in the grass pretending to splash or drown or whatever.
It should be noted that you can drown in an illusory lake created by Mirage Arcane
There was an entire second-season X-File about exactly that, in fact.
Now, can you create a door that opens with Mirage Arcane? It says that you can create structures with the spell, and parts of the structures or landscape that a PC removes would just disappear, but a door that is opened is not "removed" so much as it is adjusted in position.
Mirage Arcane modifies senses to make you see, smell, feel etc, but not does not actually change the terrain. What is there is still there, even if you make it invisible. You can remove things from sight to appear as if not there, but that's all it is, an appearance: the wall still blocks you. You won't feel the wall, so you probably won't know why you can't pass through, but you still won't pass through.
This is illusion, not transmutation.
If you want to make a door use Stone Shape, if you want to just make a passage use Passwall. Illusions cannot make actual holes. It can alter your senses but it cannot actually alter structures.
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E.g.: you can use mirage arcane to turn a meadow into a lake. People will see a lake, they're jump in and they'll feel the water, struggle to breathe beneath the surface, and swim about happily. What is actually happening is a bunch of people crawling in the grass pretending to splash or drown or whatever.
You could make a clear road look thorny, full of logs, and debris to step over to slow them down. What is actually happening is a person slowly stepping over things not there, acting like they're getting snagged or tripping themselves up (they think it was a rock, it wasn't, so they just throw themselves to the floor).
So if I understand you correctly, the PC would think there is a door, would reach for the handle to open the "door" and "it" would open, but the character would likely bump their nose or stub their toe as they tried to move through the illusory opening created by the illusory door in the actual wall. Is that what you're saying?
Now, can you create a door that opens with Mirage Arcane? It says that you can create structures with the spell, and parts of the structures or landscape that a PC removes would just disappear, but a door that is opened is not "removed" so much as it is adjusted in position.
Mirage Arcane modifies senses to make you see, smell, feel etc, but not does not actually change the terrain. What is there is still there, even if you make it invisible. You can remove things from sight to appear as if not there, but that's all it is, an appearance: the wall still blocks you. You won't feel the wall, so you probably won't know why you can't pass through, but you still won't pass through.
This is illusion, not transmutation.
If you want to make a door use Stone Shape, if you want to just make a passage use Passwall. Illusions cannot make actual holes. It can alter your senses but it cannot actually alter structures.
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E.g.: you can use mirage arcane to turn a meadow into a lake. People will see a lake, they're jump in and they'll feel the water, struggle to breathe beneath the surface, and swim about happily. What is actually happening is a bunch of people crawling in the grass pretending to splash or drown or whatever.
You could make a clear road look thorny, full of logs, and debris to step over to slow them down. What is actually happening is a person slowly stepping over things not there, acting like they're getting snagged or tripping themselves up (they think it was a rock, it wasn't, so they just throw themselves to the floor).
So if I understand you correctly, the PC would think there is a door, would reach for the handle to open the "door" and "it" would open, but the character would likely bump their nose or stub their toe as they tried to move through the illusory opening created by the illusory door in the actual wall. Is that what you're saying?
Or... you can mess with their head... by going through the illusory door and then as you do so cast meld into stone. To make it look like the door leads to some kind of “get frozen into stone like you’re Han Solo” trap.
most people that don’t know the spells involved would fall for it.
Now, can you create a door that opens with Mirage Arcane? It says that you can create structures with the spell, and parts of the structures or landscape that a PC removes would just disappear, but a door that is opened is not "removed" so much as it is adjusted in position.
Mirage Arcane modifies senses to make you see, smell, feel etc, but not does not actually change the terrain. What is there is still there, even if you make it invisible. You can remove things from sight to appear as if not there, but that's all it is, an appearance: the wall still blocks you. You won't feel the wall, so you probably won't know why you can't pass through, but you still won't pass through.
This is illusion, not transmutation.
If you want to make a door use Stone Shape, if you want to just make a passage use Passwall. Illusions cannot make actual holes. It can alter your senses but it cannot actually alter structures.
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E.g.: you can use mirage arcane to turn a meadow into a lake. People will see a lake, they're jump in and they'll feel the water, struggle to breathe beneath the surface, and swim about happily. What is actually happening is a bunch of people crawling in the grass pretending to splash or drown or whatever.
You could make a clear road look thorny, full of logs, and debris to step over to slow them down. What is actually happening is a person slowly stepping over things not there, acting like they're getting snagged or tripping themselves up (they think it was a rock, it wasn't, so they just throw themselves to the floor).
So if I understand you correctly, the PC would think there is a door, would reach for the handle to open the "door" and "it" would open, but the character would likely bump their nose or stub their toe as they tried to move through the illusory opening created by the illusory door in the actual wall. Is that what you're saying?
Basically, yes. The spell completely messes with the five basic senses of any creature encountering the illusion but does not actually reshape structures or change the topography. The person could grab the handle, and feel it, could open the door and feel the air shift, and look at the open doorway. But, they won't be able to pass through. Interestingly they won't feel the wall - they could put their hand against it and their hand won't feel the wall, it will just not move forward.
Even though this isn't an enchantment, this will seriously mess with peoples' heads if you want it to. Most creature heavily rely on their senses to make sense of reality - this spell gives considerable margin to really mess with their senses, and thus, mess with their perspective of reality.
If you're feeling mean and you have malleable illusion feature as an illusionist you could basically trap people in an environment that keeps looking them around without them knowing.
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One trick I like to play is to create an illusionary tunnel (ala Looney Tunes) and walk into it.
The trick is that I combine Major Image and Mislead. Mislead creates an illusion of me which walks into a Major Image of a hole in the wall. This is particularly effective if I have just done something a few rounds ago (before casting Mislead) which demonstrates that I'm real and not an illusion.
The goal is to seriously mess with a target's sense of reality.
If your setting permits it, you could then change the Major Image to show an approaching train and use Malleable Reality to cause the train to become real as it exits the hole.
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Presumably yeah. The illusion is of a door, and then you choose that one object to become real.
The door would be real, but it would still open into a solid wall.
If the door is where the solid wall would be, I don't see how you could open it to a solid wall. It has physically replaced the wall.
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The illusion becomes an object, it does not make an object nothing. It cannot replace the physical wall.
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Nothing about any illusion spell or the Illusory Reality feature lets you remove any part of any real object. The illusion of the door would appear and be made real, but once you open it, the wall would still be behind it.
A DM might rule that the door just falls over as soon as it becomes real since it can’t be attached to anything, but I don’t think that would be very interesting.
I think you can still prop it as part of the illusion - the illusion stays where you put it, even when made semi-real by Illusory reality. This is why if you make major image of an ogre with a club, you can make the club real and it can still be moved and wielded by the not-real ogre.
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thanks, everyone.
Most illusions require being in the open. So you couldn't make an illusory door within a wall.
Now, can you create a door that opens with Mirage Arcane? It says that you can create structures with the spell, and parts of the structures or landscape that a PC removes would just disappear, but a door that is opened is not "removed" so much as it is adjusted in position.
Mirage Arcane modifies senses to make you see, smell, feel etc, but not does not actually change the terrain. What is there is still there, even if you make it invisible. You can remove things from sight to appear as if not there, but that's all it is, an appearance: the wall still blocks you. You won't feel the wall, so you probably won't know why you can't pass through, but you still won't pass through.
This is illusion, not transmutation.
If you want to make a door use Stone Shape, if you want to just make a passage use Passwall. Illusions cannot make actual holes. It can alter your senses but it cannot actually alter structures.
--
E.g.: you can use mirage arcane to turn a meadow into a lake. People will see a lake, they're jump in and they'll feel the water, struggle to breathe beneath the surface, and swim about happily. What is actually happening is a bunch of people crawling in the grass pretending to splash or drown or whatever.
You could make a clear road look thorny, full of logs, and debris to step over to slow them down. What is actually happening is a person slowly stepping over things not there, acting like they're getting snagged or tripping themselves up (they think it was a rock, it wasn't, so they just throw themselves to the floor).
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There was an entire second-season X-File about exactly that, in fact.
So if I understand you correctly, the PC would think there is a door, would reach for the handle to open the "door" and "it" would open, but the character would likely bump their nose or stub their toe as they tried to move through the illusory opening created by the illusory door in the actual wall. Is that what you're saying?
Or... you can mess with their head... by going through the illusory door and then as you do so cast meld into stone. To make it look like the door leads to some kind of “get frozen into stone like you’re Han Solo” trap.
most people that don’t know the spells involved would fall for it.
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Basically, yes. The spell completely messes with the five basic senses of any creature encountering the illusion but does not actually reshape structures or change the topography. The person could grab the handle, and feel it, could open the door and feel the air shift, and look at the open doorway. But, they won't be able to pass through. Interestingly they won't feel the wall - they could put their hand against it and their hand won't feel the wall, it will just not move forward.
Even though this isn't an enchantment, this will seriously mess with peoples' heads if you want it to. Most creature heavily rely on their senses to make sense of reality - this spell gives considerable margin to really mess with their senses, and thus, mess with their perspective of reality.
If you're feeling mean and you have malleable illusion feature as an illusionist you could basically trap people in an environment that keeps looking them around without them knowing.
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One trick I like to play is to create an illusionary tunnel (ala Looney Tunes) and walk into it.
The trick is that I combine Major Image and Mislead. Mislead creates an illusion of me which walks into a Major Image of a hole in the wall. This is particularly effective if I have just done something a few rounds ago (before casting Mislead) which demonstrates that I'm real and not an illusion.
The goal is to seriously mess with a target's sense of reality.
If your setting permits it, you could then change the Major Image to show an approaching train and use Malleable Reality to cause the train to become real as it exits the hole.
So in short, Mysterio.