Ok, in pop culture. If vampires have to welcomed into your home. And fae have to invited into your home. Are fae and vampires 2 off shoots of the same linage?
There is no shared lineage between the two of them in either D&D or the real world myths that the D&D monsters are based on. Generally, a fine in-universe explanation for the similarity is that both are creatures of magic and magic itself tends to confer weird rules.
For the real world basis for the similarity - most myths are about warning kids against something - usually things like “stay out of the woods.” Both vampiric and fae lore have roots in “be careful what strangers you let in the home” lessons.
If so does a mat that says go away mean the opposite?
I know I know it sounds like I'm making fun but these are legit questions based on the group I plan on joining.
Depends on the specific lore.
Some takes on vampires let welcome mats and things like that work.
Other require specific invites.
And some let general statements apply to specifics. Example: In Angel the series a character said a vampire was welcome to come over once she got her own place. And that was enough for him to enter without another invite because she'd pre-extended the invite.
So this is an "Ask your DM' type of thing because there's no set answer.
I mean I guess I kind of expected that answer. Thank you.
I haven't played with this group yet however from what two of the members talk about 3 of them DM different campaigns and there are like a total of 7 of them which is pretty cool.
If so does a mat that says go away mean the opposite?
I know I know it sounds like I'm making fun but these are legit questions based on the group I plan on joining.
Every vampire movie deals with the welcome concept differently. I kind of equate it as a general idea of hospitality, but it's not a lock of admittance.
There's an episode of Angel, aka the vampire from Buffy where he is trying to protect this dude from demons in an apartment complex. He's able to generally get in the complex but can't get into an actual unit. He doesn't get permission to enter, and can't....until the demons kill the person inside. As soon as the person is dead, he can enter.
Not all vampires needed an invitation to enter your home. There was a vampire type that was just a head with entrails so people would put thorny vines and bushes outside their windows. If that vampire tried to enter, its entrails would get entangled and it would be trapped there until the Sun rose and burned it up.
D&D vampires are based on Dracula, which was written from the influence of a specific religion. The idea of the invitation is that Evil can't hurt you unless you allow it to.
I've never heard that Fae need an invitation to enter, but their behavior is based on respect and trade. Hospitality dictates you invite a traveler in from the storm. And also that said traveler does no harm while there.
So no, they're not offshoots of the same lineage. Vampires are cursed beings. Fae are wonderous, magical nature creatures.
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Ok, in pop culture. If vampires have to welcomed into your home. And fae have to invited into your home. Are fae and vampires 2 off shoots of the same linage?
There is no shared lineage between the two of them in either D&D or the real world myths that the D&D monsters are based on. Generally, a fine in-universe explanation for the similarity is that both are creatures of magic and magic itself tends to confer weird rules.
For the real world basis for the similarity - most myths are about warning kids against something - usually things like “stay out of the woods.” Both vampiric and fae lore have roots in “be careful what strangers you let in the home” lessons.
So is a welcome mat like a open door policy?
If so does a mat that says go away mean the opposite?
I know I know it sounds like I'm making fun but these are legit questions based on the group I plan on joining.
Depends on the specific lore.
Some takes on vampires let welcome mats and things like that work.
Other require specific invites.
And some let general statements apply to specifics. Example: In Angel the series a character said a vampire was welcome to come over once she got her own place. And that was enough for him to enter without another invite because she'd pre-extended the invite.
So this is an "Ask your DM' type of thing because there's no set answer.
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I mean I guess I kind of expected that answer. Thank you.
I haven't played with this group yet however from what two of the members talk about 3 of them DM different campaigns and there are like a total of 7 of them which is pretty cool.
Every vampire movie deals with the welcome concept differently. I kind of equate it as a general idea of hospitality, but it's not a lock of admittance.
There's an episode of Angel, aka the vampire from Buffy where he is trying to protect this dude from demons in an apartment complex. He's able to generally get in the complex but can't get into an actual unit. He doesn't get permission to enter, and can't....until the demons kill the person inside. As soon as the person is dead, he can enter.
Wild that two of us did Angel references within 15 minutes.
Not all vampires needed an invitation to enter your home. There was a vampire type that was just a head with entrails so people would put thorny vines and bushes outside their windows. If that vampire tried to enter, its entrails would get entangled and it would be trapped there until the Sun rose and burned it up.
D&D vampires are based on Dracula, which was written from the influence of a specific religion. The idea of the invitation is that Evil can't hurt you unless you allow it to.
I've never heard that Fae need an invitation to enter, but their behavior is based on respect and trade. Hospitality dictates you invite a traveler in from the storm. And also that said traveler does no harm while there.
So no, they're not offshoots of the same lineage. Vampires are cursed beings. Fae are wonderous, magical nature creatures.