I found the word beguile in all the dominate spells, but those spells are the only instances where the use of the below feature seems obvious to apply. Is there a rule or standard for this feature or is it up to DMs judgment for the most part. Many of the effects of the schools of the illusion and enchantment seem to fit as beguilements. I was just wondering if beguilements were classified in some official way somewhere in the rules.
Vigilant Rebuke
15th-level Oath of the Watchers feature
You’ve learned how to chastise anyone who dares wield beguilements against you and your wards. Whenever you or a creature you can see within 30 feet of you succeeds on an Intelligence, a Wisdom, or a Charisma saving throw, you can use your reaction to deal 2d8 + your Charisma modifier force damage to the creature that forced the saving throw.
I found the word beguile in all the dominate spells, but those spells are the only instances where the use of the below feature seems obvious to apply. Is there a rule or standard for this feature or is it up to DMs judgment for the most part. Many of the effects of the schools of the illusion and enchantment seem to fit as beguilements. I was just wondering if beguilements were classified in some official way somewhere in the rules.
Vigilant Rebuke
15th-level Oath of the Watchers feature
You’ve learned how to chastise anyone who dares wield beguilements against you and your wards. Whenever you or a creature you can see within 30 feet of you succeeds on an Intelligence, a Wisdom, or a Charisma saving throw, you can use your reaction to deal 2d8 + your Charisma modifier force damage to the creature that forced the saving throw.
"Beguilements" has no rules meaning in Vigilant Rebuke, so you don't need to worry about it - the first sentence is fluff text. The second sentence is mechanics.
That is just flavor text. It is talking about any effect that causes one of those 3 saves (probably shouldn't include CHA, since that is usually to resist forced teleport, but meh).
Thank you both for the clarifications on this feature. I get it now. If I pull the spells with those three saves I can see where "beguile" fits for most of them.
That is just flavor text. It is talking about any effect that causes one of those 3 saves (probably shouldn't include CHA, since that is usually to resist forced teleport, but meh).
CHA is also used to resist possession.
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I found the word beguile in all the dominate spells, but those spells are the only instances where the use of the below feature seems obvious to apply. Is there a rule or standard for this feature or is it up to DMs judgment for the most part. Many of the effects of the schools of the illusion and enchantment seem to fit as beguilements. I was just wondering if beguilements were classified in some official way somewhere in the rules.
Vigilant Rebuke
15th-level Oath of the Watchers feature
You’ve learned how to chastise anyone who dares wield beguilements against you and your wards. Whenever you or a creature you can see within 30 feet of you succeeds on an Intelligence, a Wisdom, or a Charisma saving throw, you can use your reaction to deal 2d8 + your Charisma modifier force damage to the creature that forced the saving throw.
"Beguilements" has no rules meaning in Vigilant Rebuke, so you don't need to worry about it - the first sentence is fluff text. The second sentence is mechanics.
That is just flavor text. It is talking about any effect that causes one of those 3 saves (probably shouldn't include CHA, since that is usually to resist forced teleport, but meh).
Thank you both for the clarifications on this feature. I get it now. If I pull the spells with those three saves I can see where "beguile" fits for most of them.
CHA is also used to resist possession.
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