For different cases, i.e. documents or magical items.
As cannot see clearly if for documents should use Perception or Investigation. And what about fake magical items? (if not having Detect Magic at hand, or the item is not what they say), probably the corresponding Lore skill (Arcana, Religion for "divine" items, Nature for "druidic" ones).
For a fake religious or druidic item, i could potentially ask for an Intelligence (Religion or Nature) check if i judge that recalling lore or image of it is possible to help determine that.
Overall I'd say Investigation is more the general "look for inconsistencies/errors" skill, but yeah Religion/Arcana/etc also work if it's something specific to their fields.
Overall I'd say Investigation is more the general "look for inconsistencies/errors" skill, but yeah Religion/Arcana/etc also work if it's something specific to their fields.
Perception (probably passive perception) might make sense for "something seems off", but I agree this is mostly an investigation job for documents.
I'd also give advantage to anybody with experience working with forgeries, like the Charlatan background.
Overall I'd say Investigation is more the general "look for inconsistencies/errors" skill, but yeah Religion/Arcana/etc also work if it's something specific to their fields.
Perception (probably passive perception) might make sense for "something seems off", but I agree this is mostly an investigation job for documents.
I'd also give advantage to anybody with experience working with forgeries, like the Charlatan background.
I'd go with Passive Investigation, particularly since that's also recorded on the D&DB character sheet. WIS already gets a lot of value as a secondary ability, so personally I'd prefer to avoid going too wide with it.
I'd generally use active check if purposefully looking for this and Passive score if i want to determine wether a PC notice something without asking specifically about this.
May be even a mix of the two, one to raise suspicions based on different quality, weight etc , the other to actually spot the presence or absence of distinctive marking etc.. a bit like i often use mix of both with secret door for example.
Magical items unambiguously fall under Arcana, documents could involve a mix of proficiencies including Perception, Investigation, History, Religion, and proficiency with calligrapher's supplies or a forgery kit, depending on what the document is supposed to be for and what's wrong with it.
Detecting a fake could involve basic perception (e.g. wrong signature shape, if they're familiar with it), background knowledge (wrong ink, font, seal, terminology, mentioning a ruler or country that doesn't exist, etc), or experience with forgeries (e.g. spotting signs that a paper's been made to look older artificially.)
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For different cases, i.e. documents or magical items.
As cannot see clearly if for documents should use Perception or Investigation. And what about fake magical items? (if not having Detect Magic at hand, or the item is not what they say), probably the corresponding Lore skill (Arcana, Religion for "divine" items, Nature for "druidic" ones).
For magical items, I think that this is one of the purposes of the Identify spell.
I would use Intelligence (Investigation or Perception) check to spot or deduce a document was forged.
For fake magic item, an Intelligence (Arcana) check without access to Detect Magic could work.
For a fake religious or druidic item, i could potentially ask for an Intelligence (Religion or Nature) check if i judge that recalling lore or image of it is possible to help determine that.
Overall I'd say Investigation is more the general "look for inconsistencies/errors" skill, but yeah Religion/Arcana/etc also work if it's something specific to their fields.
Perception (probably passive perception) might make sense for "something seems off", but I agree this is mostly an investigation job for documents.
I'd also give advantage to anybody with experience working with forgeries, like the Charlatan background.
I'd go with Passive Investigation, particularly since that's also recorded on the D&DB character sheet. WIS already gets a lot of value as a secondary ability, so personally I'd prefer to avoid going too wide with it.
I'd generally use active check if purposefully looking for this and Passive score if i want to determine wether a PC notice something without asking specifically about this.
May be even a mix of the two, one to raise suspicions based on different quality, weight etc , the other to actually spot the presence or absence of distinctive marking etc.. a bit like i often use mix of both with secret door for example.
Magical items unambiguously fall under Arcana, documents could involve a mix of proficiencies including Perception, Investigation, History, Religion, and proficiency with calligrapher's supplies or a forgery kit, depending on what the document is supposed to be for and what's wrong with it.
Detecting a fake could involve basic perception (e.g. wrong signature shape, if they're familiar with it), background knowledge (wrong ink, font, seal, terminology, mentioning a ruler or country that doesn't exist, etc), or experience with forgeries (e.g. spotting signs that a paper's been made to look older artificially.)
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