Mirror Image doesn't do the same thing as the Cloak of Displacement, so yes, they stack. They have disadvantage to hit you, and if they do hit you, then you do what Mirror Image tells you to do (roll the d20 and whatever result if they hit you or the mirror duplicate)
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Well it would depend on whether you think the Cloak of Displacement also affects the Mirror Images or only you. If it works on the images - then it doesn't matter which way around you roll. If it only works on you (which is how I would rule it) - then you should roll Mirror Image first - then the attack.
Yes, in the meaning that you can get the benefits of both, but not necessarily at the same time. If we look past all kinds of flavor text on how the magic works, mechanically this is how it works.
You are attacked while wear a CoD and using MI. MI states that you now roll to see ifyou or one of the duplicates are hit.
If you are hit, apply disadvantage from CoD.
If your duplicate is hit, do not apply disadvantage since CoD states that the disadvantage only applies to the wearer.
simultanius effects Most effects in the game happen in succession, following an order set by the rules or the DM. In rare cases, effects can happen at the same time, especially at the start or end ofa creature's turn. If two or more things happen at the same time on a character or monster's turn, the person at the game table-whether player or DM-who controls that creature decides the order in which those things happen. For example, if two effects occur at the end of a player character's turn, the player decides which of the two effects happens first.
simultanius effects Most effects in the game happen in succession, following an order set by the rules or the DM. In rare cases, effects can happen at the same time, especially at the start or end ofa creature's turn. If two or more things happen at the same time on a character or monster's turn, the person at the game table-whether player or DM-who controls that creature decides the order in which those things happen. For example, if two effects occur at the end of a player character's turn, the player decides which of the two effects happens first.
This only applies when two things happen simultaneously with nothing to dictate which happens first, such as multiple different effects that occur "at start of creature's turn" or such.
This doesn't actually apply in this case because the effects from cloak and mirror image are occuring at different stages: one occurs at time of targeting the attack, the other at time of rolling to hit which occurs after targeting.
It's important to understand the difference between targeting an attack, rolling to hit and actually hitting. Spells and effects work on different stages. The Sanctuary spell, for instance works on being targeted, much like Mirror Image does, and so this effect is to be resolved before any rolling to hit happens. Spells like Shield trigger on being hit, occuring in response to the attack/to hit being rolled. Other things affect the roll like the cloak applying disadvantage to it. Some things trigger when damage is rolled. There are specific stages to an attack and different things affect or are affected by or are triggered by those different stages.
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1 . Choose a target. Pick a target within your attack's range: a creature, an object, or a location. 2. Determine modifiers. The DM determines whether the target has cover and whether you have advantage or disadvantage against the target. In addition, spells, special abilities, and other effects can apply penalties or bonuses to your attack roll. 3. Resolve the attack. You make the attack roll. On a hit, you roll damage, unless the particular attack has rules that specify otherwise. Some attacks cause special effects in addition to or instead of damage.
Even gives the example in the second process of describing effects that may impose disadvantage.
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do the 2 effects stack?
Mirror Image doesn't do the same thing as the Cloak of Displacement, so yes, they stack. They have disadvantage to hit you, and if they do hit you, then you do what Mirror Image tells you to do (roll the d20 and whatever result if they hit you or the mirror duplicate)
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Yeah but I was wondering which resolves first.
Based on the wording for mirror image, it seems that would resolve first, then followed by the disadvantage for cloak of displacement
Well it would depend on whether you think the Cloak of Displacement also affects the Mirror Images or only you. If it works on the images - then it doesn't matter which way around you roll. If it only works on you (which is how I would rule it) - then you should roll Mirror Image first - then the attack.
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Yes, in the meaning that you can get the benefits of both, but not necessarily at the same time. If we look past all kinds of flavor text on how the magic works, mechanically this is how it works.
Pg 77, Xanathars guide to everything.
simultanius effects
Most effects in the game happen in succession, following an order set by the rules or the DM. In rare cases, effects can happen at the same time, especially at the start or end ofa creature's turn. If two or more things happen at the same time on a character or monster's turn, the person at the game table-whether player or DM-who controls that creature decides the order in which those things happen. For example, if two effects occur at the end of a player character's turn, the player decides which of the two effects happens first.
This only applies when two things happen simultaneously with nothing to dictate which happens first, such as multiple different effects that occur "at start of creature's turn" or such.
This doesn't actually apply in this case because the effects from cloak and mirror image are occuring at different stages: one occurs at time of targeting the attack, the other at time of rolling to hit which occurs after targeting.
It's important to understand the difference between targeting an attack, rolling to hit and actually hitting. Spells and effects work on different stages. The Sanctuary spell, for instance works on being targeted, much like Mirror Image does, and so this effect is to be resolved before any rolling to hit happens. Spells like Shield trigger on being hit, occuring in response to the attack/to hit being rolled. Other things affect the roll like the cloak applying disadvantage to it. Some things trigger when damage is rolled. There are specific stages to an attack and different things affect or are affected by or are triggered by those different stages.
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You’re completely right.
phb pg 194
Making an Attack
1 . Choose a target. Pick a target within your attack's range: a creature, an object, or a location.
2. Determine modifiers. The DM determines whether the target has cover and whether you have advantage or disadvantage against the target. In addition, spells, special abilities, and other effects can apply penalties or bonuses to your attack roll.
3. Resolve the attack. You make the attack roll. On a hit, you roll damage, unless the particular attack has rules that specify otherwise. Some attacks cause special effects in addition to or instead of damage.
Even gives the example in the second process of describing effects that may impose disadvantage.
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