I think they should have gone with Word of Radiance as one of the cantrips. Or Sword Burst, maybe Thunderclap (but only because it's the only of those 3 that's been put back in the game so far). Instead of Shield of Faith, I would have preferred to see a Smite. And one of the 9th level spells should have been Holy Weapon. I'm not a big fan of Spiritual Weapon, I think it's a bit underwhelming, so replacing that with something else would have been better. Same with Spirit Guardians. Maybe Moonbeam or Scorching Ray as 2nd level replacements for Spiritual Weapon, and Spirit Shroud as a replacement for Spirit Guardians.
I do like its special abilities, except that I think War Priest should also work with unarmed strikes.
Yes, by far more usable. I only wish they just gave it extra attack at 6th level. The 6th level feature is meh, but far better than current version which doesn’t give a new feature it just let you use your guided strike on others. So the Revised version is good and playable, but not a perfect fix.
Yeah, Extra Attack, like the way a Sword Bard or Bladesinger gets (even better if it's like the Bladesinger version of Extra Attack). That would be much better than a free casting of "Shield of Faith".
An extra attack might be OP, but perhaps if you gave the ability to cast Spirit Guardians or spiritual weapon without concentration that would be a benefit. Back to the way it was.
I see the war Cleric as the front line defender, no the main attacker. The that makes sure their shield bothers survive the battle. With that being said I think the shield of Faith is appropriate. But to each their own.
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"Where words fail, swords prevail. Where blood is spilled, my cup is filled" -Cartaphilus
"I have found the answer to the meaning of life. You ask me what the answer is? You already know what the answer to life is. You fear it more than the strike of a viper, the ravages of disease, the ire of a lover. The answer is always death. But death is a gentle mistress with a sweet embrace, and you owe her a debt of restitution. Life is not a gift, it is a loan."
An extra attack might be OP, but perhaps if you gave the ability to cast Spirit Guardians or spiritual weapon without concentration that would be a benefit. Back to the way it was.
Granting a full-time second attack would probably require forgoing the bonus melee damage clerics get, or at least not getting the second die at lvl 14.
Having extra attack just gives you a reason to use weapon attacks beyond level 5. Cantrips very quickly out damage weapon attacks especially now that you can choose with blessed strikes. 2 Bards and a Wizard have extra attack and it’s not a problem. I don’t see how it is op on a cleric. I don’t believe they would need to give up anything except their 6th level feature
I see the war Cleric as the front line defender, no the main attacker. The that makes sure their shield bothers survive the battle. With that being said I think the shield of Faith is appropriate. But to each their own.
I agree it is appropriate, I'm just going to miss the combo (truth be told).
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Same question as the title. I really really really want it to be good, but I don’t really know how well it was remade.
What are your thoughts
I think they should have gone with Word of Radiance as one of the cantrips. Or Sword Burst, maybe Thunderclap (but only because it's the only of those 3 that's been put back in the game so far). Instead of Shield of Faith, I would have preferred to see a Smite. And one of the 9th level spells should have been Holy Weapon. I'm not a big fan of Spiritual Weapon, I think it's a bit underwhelming, so replacing that with something else would have been better. Same with Spirit Guardians. Maybe Moonbeam or Scorching Ray as 2nd level replacements for Spiritual Weapon, and Spirit Shroud as a replacement for Spirit Guardians.
I do like its special abilities, except that I think War Priest should also work with unarmed strikes.
Yes, by far more usable. I only wish they just gave it extra attack at 6th level. The 6th level feature is meh, but far better than current version which doesn’t give a new feature it just let you use your guided strike on others. So the Revised version is good and playable, but not a perfect fix.
Yeah, Extra Attack, like the way a Sword Bard or Bladesinger gets (even better if it's like the Bladesinger version of Extra Attack). That would be much better than a free casting of "Shield of Faith".
An extra attack might be OP, but perhaps if you gave the ability to cast Spirit Guardians or spiritual weapon without concentration that would be a benefit. Back to the way it was.
I see the war Cleric as the front line defender, no the main attacker. The that makes sure their shield bothers survive the battle. With that being said I think the shield of Faith is appropriate. But to each their own.
"Where words fail, swords prevail. Where blood is spilled, my cup is filled" -Cartaphilus
"I have found the answer to the meaning of life. You ask me what the answer is? You already know what the answer to life is. You fear it more than the strike of a viper, the ravages of disease, the ire of a lover. The answer is always death. But death is a gentle mistress with a sweet embrace, and you owe her a debt of restitution. Life is not a gift, it is a loan."
Granting a full-time second attack would probably require forgoing the bonus melee damage clerics get, or at least not getting the second die at lvl 14.
Having extra attack just gives you a reason to use weapon attacks beyond level 5. Cantrips very quickly out damage weapon attacks especially now that you can choose with blessed strikes. 2 Bards and a Wizard have extra attack and it’s not a problem. I don’t see how it is op on a cleric. I don’t believe they would need to give up anything except their 6th level feature
I agree it is appropriate, I'm just going to miss the combo (truth be told).