#1 artificer spell

Boy, do I ever hate this spell. So, so much.

As a divine soul sorcerer  with the mage initiate feat of wizard  would i be able to learn new spells for identifying  the items ie spiritual weapon since the spell "you learn its properties and how to use them, If the item was created by a spell, you learn which spell created it" since learning everything  about the spell would that go into my know spells. And if a creature was put to sleep  by the spell would learn the spell by identifying  them? "you learn what spells, if any, are currently affecting it."

Does this have to be a pearl or can it be any jem stone worth 100gp?

Quote from IdunaSorchasdottir >>

Does this have to be a pearl or can it be any jem stone worth 100gp?

 RAW - it needs to be a pearl. However I have played in a campaign where the GM would sometimes adjust the item. Keep in mind that the pearl is not consumed so you only need to buy it once. If you have the 100 gp or equivalent - why not "go to town" and buy a pearl?

in a similar vein, if you are a non-wizard spellcaster, can you learn spells from your class by using this spell on a wizard's spellbook, depending on what is inside?

I mean it detects spells affecting the target… so spells like geas, contagion, bestow curse… maybe not the common use, but it has come up in games I’ve played… and for wizards it just needs to be in their spellbook. For bards it’s a bit of a tougher choice, but for wizards it is almost an auto-include.

I believe so.

Is the Pearl consumed after casting this spell?  100 GP.  

No, the pearl is not consumed.

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Casting word is:

Incanticus Determinium

 

 

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 No it isn't 🛑

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FYI everyone wrt to cursed items (b/c it wrecked a twist at my table); "Most methods of identifying items, including the identify spell, fail to reveal such a curse, although lore might hint at it. A curse should be a surprise to the item’s user when the curse’s effects are revealed."  <-- from the DMG

There's at least one exceptional item in Tales from the Yawning Portal with a curse that DOES get clocked by identify.

Also, you can taste a potion to ID it instead of wasting time on the spell.  In this case the exception is the potion of poison, which will taste like a healing potion... but identify DOES reveal its true nature!

 

 

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 I think the identify spell should be able to reveal most curses, maybe not always when cast at lv1 but higher levels for sure. That's the whole point of the spell, that's why the players take it, I'm not gonna fudge the spell just because the spell that reveals knowledge is revealing knowledge lol

Does this reveal curses on an item or person?

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Does this reveal curses on an item or person?

This spell doesn't generally reveal curses on items unless the item or curse specifically says that it does. This is stated in the section on cursed magic items in the Dungeon Master's Guide.

As for a person, I think if the curse were caused by a spell (such as the aptly named bestow curse) then it would, since it says "if you instead touch a creature throughout the casting, you learn what spells, if any, are currently affecting it". If it were caused by something other than a spell, then no.

Identify would tell you how many charges it has, how many each power uses, how many it gets back at dawn, and if its possible the item breaks if you roll a 1 (like a staff of defense).  You dont need Identify for a ring of jumping but you do for a lot of rods staves wands robes etc.  more complicated items.  

Using the staff of defense example, without identify youd know it can cast two spells.  then you attune to it.  but the charge cost of each spell, the current charges, *and the fact it might break*, wouldnt be known to you.

Quote from DnDemiurge >>

FYI everyone wrt to cursed items (b/c it wrecked a twist at my table); "Most methods of identifying items, including the identify spell, fail to reveal such a curse, although lore might hint at it. A curse should be a surprise to the item’s user when the curse’s effects are revealed."  <-- from the DMG

There's at least one exceptional item in Tales from the Yawning Portal with a curse that DOES get clocked by identify.

Also, you can taste a potion to ID it instead of wasting time on the spell.  In this case the exception is the potion of poison, which will taste like a healing potion... but identify DOES reveal its true nature!

 

 

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 Do you have a page refrence? Or is that just the start of the magic item section? 

That helps a lot actually.
I wanna make gathering spell components more important in my current campaign. so having a store clerk able to cast identify (for a cost) or simply sell a pearl worth 100Gp is great! since said pearl is not consumed on use.

I will also remind folks that "detect magic" tells the school of magic radiating off of anyone or anything in your area that has spells or magical properties on them.  Does that tell you what it does exactly?  No, but it is a damn site cheaper than a 100GP Pearl to cast.

Detect Magic (V,S) Action or Ritual within 30 ft of self and lasts for 10 minutes

For the duration, you sense the presence of magic within 30 feet of you. If you sense magic in this way, you can use your action to see a faint aura around any visible creature or object in the area that bears magic, and you learn its school of magic, if any.

The spell can penetrate most barriers, but it is blocked by 1 foot of stone, 1 inch of common metal, a thin sheet of lead, or 3 feet of wood or dirt.