No clue how other tables handle ambush, our dm allows us to make an ambush attack before initiative though, if, we roll a very good stealth check or we surprise our enemy. Then we roll for combat.
So, with that said. Assassinate rogue subclass ability. Would it hit for the ambush and then if you out rolled for initiative, hit again, since the opponents haven't had combat rolls? As a gloomstalker dual wielding. I'm able to hit 4 times on opening combat. The dmg potential is nice. Btw, looking at multi class potentials here
If your DM allows you to have 1,000 turns before initiative is even rolled than you would get advantage on 1,000 attack rolls. In the same situation, if the DM also allowed you to surprise them you’d get a critical on any hit for the first 1,000 turns.
I’m sure it’s fun to get this free round at the start of combat, but it’s not technically not how the game is balanced. Some day a group of enemies might get the drop on your party, the tables will be turned on this surprise house rule, and it will be a sad day for the adventures.
This is surposed to be dealt with thouth the surprise mechanism. This was very unintuitive to our group when we started (as we came from 2-3.5 ed dnd) but now it works well.
basically, you decide who is surprising someone (there could be multiple), and everyone who does not surprise someone can not take any actions during round 1 of combat. There are some odd cases that must be dealt with though such as a surprising b, who is surprising c who is surprising a. These outlayers must just be dealt with by the dm :)
as for tour spesific question regarding assassinate the surprised enemy take their turn during the first round, they just cannot perform actions. In other words you dont get to assassinate two rounds in a row.
I've seen tables play ambushes as, if you successfully ambush a target, they lose their first combat action. Still giving a strong first attack and then a regular second attack before allowing an enemy to attack. Would that play better?
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No clue how other tables handle ambush, our dm allows us to make an ambush attack before initiative though, if, we roll a very good stealth check or we surprise our enemy. Then we roll for combat.
So, with that said. Assassinate rogue subclass ability. Would it hit for the ambush and then if you out rolled for initiative, hit again, since the opponents haven't had combat rolls? As a gloomstalker dual wielding. I'm able to hit 4 times on opening combat. The dmg potential is nice. Btw, looking at multi class potentials here
If your DM allows you to have 1,000 turns before initiative is even rolled than you would get advantage on 1,000 attack rolls. In the same situation, if the DM also allowed you to surprise them you’d get a critical on any hit for the first 1,000 turns.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules/combat
I’m sure it’s fun to get this free round at the start of combat, but it’s not technically not how the game is balanced. Some day a group of enemies might get the drop on your party, the tables will be turned on this surprise house rule, and it will be a sad day for the adventures.
This is surposed to be dealt with thouth the surprise mechanism. This was very unintuitive to our group when we started (as we came from 2-3.5 ed dnd) but now it works well.
basically, you decide who is surprising someone (there could be multiple), and everyone who does not surprise someone can not take any actions during round 1 of combat. There are some odd cases that must be dealt with though such as a surprising b, who is surprising c who is surprising a. These outlayers must just be dealt with by the dm :)
as for tour spesific question regarding assassinate the surprised enemy take their turn during the first round, they just cannot perform actions. In other words you dont get to assassinate two rounds in a row.
I've seen tables play ambushes as, if you successfully ambush a target, they lose their first combat action. Still giving a strong first attack and then a regular second attack before allowing an enemy to attack. Would that play better?