When you receive your Book from your patron it says it has 3 cantrips in it, is there any way to increase this later on? I quite like the BoAS invocation that allows you to add ritual spells to it based on your level, but I can't find anything that allows you to add any more cantrips.
Those are all you get from that feature. Otherwise, you're stuck taking feats if you want extra cantrips, but three extras that can be from any class's spell list is a big boost.
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Thanks, I thought that would be the case. I was looking at taking a few cantrips for flavour based on the character story, but not sure how effective they would be in play so I was hoping I could find a way of getting others as well.
Thanks for that, perhaps you could explain how multiclassing or changing my race mid-game would enable me to add extra cantrips to the book obtained by my warlock's pact of the tome?
Thanks for that, perhaps you could explain how multiclassing or changing my race mid-game would enable me to add extra cantrips to the book obtained by my warlock's pact of the tome?
Change race is not really possible. Multiclassing is easy. I would suggest that bard and sorcerer are the best for cantrips (though sorcerer gets more cantrips, it can be hard for RP e.g why did I ask for power when I had it? )
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Thanks for that, perhaps you could explain how multiclassing or changing my race mid-game would enable me to add extra cantrips to the book obtained by my warlock's pact of the tome?
Change race is not really possible. Multiclassing is easy. I would suggest that bard and sorcerer are the best for cantrips (though sorcerer gets more cantrips, it can be hard for RP e.g why did I ask for power when I had it? )
I think you are missing the point, I am not asking to learn more cantrips, I am asking how to ADD more cantrips to my warlocks Book of Arcane Secrets. But the first answer confirmed my belief that you cannot do that.Multiclassing will let you learn more cantrips but that is completely different to staying warlock and adding more cantrips to my book in the same way that you can add more ritual spells.
My opinion on multiclassing with a Warlock is simple: because it could serve, knowingly or unknowingly, the patron's ends. If it makes you more powerful or useful, then great.
Conversely, a patron could see the benefit in taking in an already powerful character, like a sorcerer.
Multiclassing shouldn't just be about power or utility, it should serve a character's goals and role within the party. To return to the originating post, multiclassing is a good way of getting more cantrips, but make sure they scale well and that losing however many levels of warlock nets you something critical for your party and yourself.
I don't think you read the question I was asking either.
We read the question. We are just offering DIFFERENT ways to get cantrips, without the book.
Why? I didn't ask for different ways to get cantrips, I specifically asked if there was a way to add cantrips to the book. A yes or no question. I don't need advice on multiclassing or anything else other than if there is a feat or invocation or something else that I am missing that will add cantrips to the book.
I think you're needlessly nit-picking. Nothing actually says that the cantrips are IN your Tome; just that when you have your Tome, you can cast them. When you have your Tome, you can also cast cantrips from other sources.
Pact of the Tome
Your patron gives you a grimoire called a Book of Shadows. When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list). While the book is on your person, you can cast those cantrips at will. They don’t count against your number of cantrips known. If they don’t appear on the warlock spell list, they are nonetheless warlock spells for you.
It would seem fairly obvious though surely that the intention here is that the cantrips are written in the book, otherwise why would you need to have it on you? I agree that it doesn't explicitly state that, but otherwise if they are committed to memory then you should be able to use them even if you accidentally left the book on the table when you left home to go adventuring.
It would seem fairly obvious though surely that the intention here is that the cantrips are written in the book, otherwise why would you need to have it on you? I agree that it doesn't explicitly state that, but otherwise if they are committed to memory then you should be able to use them even if you accidentally left the book on the table when you left home to go adventuring. "
They may be written in the grimoire, but they can be used at will. So there is no real distinction. Currently, as there are no cantrip rituals, there's no way to scribe further into the book.
That said, talk with your DM about how to create an invocation for extra cantrips or maybe make it a part of a feat that would be similar to magic initiate.
When you receive your Book from your patron it says it has 3 cantrips in it, is there any way to increase this later on? I quite like the BoAS invocation that allows you to add ritual spells to it based on your level, but I can't find anything that allows you to add any more cantrips.
Those are all you get from that feature. Otherwise, you're stuck taking feats if you want extra cantrips, but three extras that can be from any class's spell list is a big boost.
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"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Thanks, I thought that would be the case. I was looking at taking a few cantrips for flavour based on the character story, but not sure how effective they would be in play so I was hoping I could find a way of getting others as well.
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Thanks for that, perhaps you could explain how multiclassing or changing my race mid-game would enable me to add extra cantrips to the book obtained by my warlock's pact of the tome?
Change race is not really possible. Multiclassing is easy. I would suggest that bard and sorcerer are the best for cantrips (though sorcerer gets more cantrips, it can be hard for RP e.g why did I ask for power when I had it? )
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I think you are missing the point, I am not asking to learn more cantrips, I am asking how to ADD more cantrips to my warlocks Book of Arcane Secrets. But the first answer confirmed my belief that you cannot do that.Multiclassing will let you learn more cantrips but that is completely different to staying warlock and adding more cantrips to my book in the same way that you can add more ritual spells.
My opinion on multiclassing with a Warlock is simple: because it could serve, knowingly or unknowingly, the patron's ends. If it makes you more powerful or useful, then great.
Conversely, a patron could see the benefit in taking in an already powerful character, like a sorcerer.
Multiclassing shouldn't just be about power or utility, it should serve a character's goals and role within the party. To return to the originating post, multiclassing is a good way of getting more cantrips, but make sure they scale well and that losing however many levels of warlock nets you something critical for your party and yourself.
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I don't think you read the question I was asking either.
We read the question. We are just offering DIFFERENT ways to get cantrips, without the book.
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Why? I didn't ask for different ways to get cantrips, I specifically asked if there was a way to add cantrips to the book. A yes or no question. I don't need advice on multiclassing or anything else other than if there is a feat or invocation or something else that I am missing that will add cantrips to the book.
I think you're needlessly nit-picking. Nothing actually says that the cantrips are IN your Tome; just that when you have your Tome, you can cast them. When you have your Tome, you can also cast cantrips from other sources.
It would seem fairly obvious though surely that the intention here is that the cantrips are written in the book, otherwise why would you need to have it on you? I agree that it doesn't explicitly state that, but otherwise if they are committed to memory then you should be able to use them even if you accidentally left the book on the table when you left home to go adventuring.
There aren't any ways to add extra cantrips to your Tome, short of creating a custom feat or custom Invocation.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
It would seem fairly obvious though surely that the intention here is that the cantrips are written in the book, otherwise why would you need to have it on you? I agree that it doesn't explicitly state that, but otherwise if they are committed to memory then you should be able to use them even if you accidentally left the book on the table when you left home to go adventuring. "
They may be written in the grimoire, but they can be used at will. So there is no real distinction. Currently, as there are no cantrip rituals, there's no way to scribe further into the book.
That said, talk with your DM about how to create an invocation for extra cantrips or maybe make it a part of a feat that would be similar to magic initiate.
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