We NEED a dark mode for this website. My eyes can't handle white screens at night, it makes the website unusable without a chrome extension that inverts everything that makes it look terrible.
Don't even start with "blah blah it's hard to design" no the **** it isn't just copy the color scheme from Reddit, Youtube, Discord, or any other functional app with a non-glaringly white theme. I'm sure WOTC has enough money from Arena to pay some intern minimum wage to recolor things for a couple of weeks. We don't even care if it looks GOOD just make it not PAINFUL.
A good dark mode takes a lot of design work and time, like you said, inverting everything looks terrible.
You have to build an entire custom colour scheme that's optimised for low light viewing and apply that CSS site wide. You have to QA the whole site to ensure that every last part of it is readable, that all the art is viewable and some of that art might need custom changes; remember that the art D&D presents is created with the assumption of being printed on white or off-white paper.
Finally, once you've got that dark mode CSS made, tested site wide and any issues fixed, you then have to implement functionality to allow users to turn it on and off. That requires code work for adding the variable to the user profile, UI work so they've got an easy way to toggle it, and again, further testing. Gotta make sure that the selection remains between settings (don't want someone reloading the site and getting blinded), works between browsers and also between devices.
Basically, a good dark mode is a lot of work. You can't just invert the colours, and you can't just copy the colour scheme from another site.
One of the sites I regularly use just updated their core CSS, and a large number of the bug complaints were related to people who had photosensitive-vertigo reactions, to the point that the devs were doing a writeup on it, the summary of which basically boils down to 'the causes and triggers of these kinds of reactions are incredibly under-studied by science, and what triggers person A will have no effect on person B, so what will fix the problem for some will create the problem for others, we're trying to find the best balance we can.' This is, of course, a site that allows for nearly full user customization of the CSS for viewing pages while logged in, which is not the case for DDB. But the 'fixing it for group A will break it for group B' part is still relevant.
Asking people for solutions that they've found might be a better way to go (and will probably get you quicker results, that you can use on multiple sites where you have an issue). If your issue is mostly white/light pages at night, then something like f.lux might be helpful -- it'll tone down your monitor as a whole, so it's application-agnostic.
And the link is very interesting, it further highlights how careful you have to be with UX (user experience). Standard 'day mode' sites may be taxing on the eye at night/in dark conditions (I am a big advocate of Flux and Night Mode on android which dims the screen to a warm tint), but the last thing DDB wants is for people to be failing their IRL Con saves while trying to use the site!
And the link is very interesting, it further highlights how careful you have to be with UX (user experience). Standard 'day mode' sites may be taxing on the eye at night/in dark conditions (I am a big advocate of Flux and Night Mode on android which dims the screen to a warm tint), but the last thing DDB wants is for people to be failing their IRL Con saves while trying to use the site!
I am glad to have both brought joy to your day, and “enlightenment” to the topic at hand.
That article points out that there's no direct link between Ravelry and the symptoms, but also surmises people expecting to experience symptoms after being told they might may experience symptoms.
I prefer Dark Mode, but Twitter's first attempt at Dark Mode had a lot of things becoming impossible to see. It has been through several iterations since that first attempt long ago - and they have lots of experienced people working on it.
It's not easy. Don't assume some inexperienced intern is going to be able to do it lickety-split.
It looks so easy to us on this side of the screen. It's not once you're on the other side of the screen.
Basically, a good dark mode is a lot of work. You can't just invert the colours, and you can't just copy the colour scheme from another site.
Imagine the 50+ hours a week for months that produce a 90-minute movie. They make it look easy, but it's not.
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I think you're being a bit overdramatic. If this website at night is causing you that much problems maybe you should see an optometrist?
1. Light background with dark text is actually better for most people, causing less eye strain than dark background than light text.
2. You shouldn't be using any screen in a dark setting. You should be using screens in well-lit areas. Doing anything different will cause eye strain.
3. Dark Mode can ease the strain if viewing a screen in a dark environment but it still causes some and is still an unhealthy habit.
4. While the website having its own tailored Dark Mode scheme is better, there are browser extensions that can impose something similar to websites to visit and work decently enough for this site, if you really had to use something.
5. Creating a Dark Mode is more complicated than you make it out to be. It's debatable on whether websites even should make such, given it encourages unhealthy viewing habits. So it's not like they "must" make one or anything. Requesting one is fine but ranting they don't have one is not - they're not obligated to provide one and this website colour scheme is actually quite optimal (not perfect, but it's fine) - for those who use it in a well-lit room like they're supposed to. If this website's colouring is difficult for you - then seek medical guidance because that would strongly indicate a problem with your eyes. D&D Beyond is not responsible for that.
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We NEED a dark mode for this website. My eyes can't handle white screens at night, it makes the website unusable without a chrome extension that inverts everything that makes it look terrible.
Don't even start with "blah blah it's hard to design" no the **** it isn't just copy the color scheme from Reddit, Youtube, Discord, or any other functional app with a non-glaringly white theme. I'm sure WOTC has enough money from Arena to pay some intern minimum wage to recolor things for a couple of weeks. We don't even care if it looks GOOD just make it not PAINFUL.
Rant over. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
I’m sure the do. Unfortunately, WotC doesn’t own this website. This website is owned by a completely different company called Curse LLC.
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Ah, I thought they bought it a while back. Regardless. Intern. Minimum wage.
Nope, Fandom bought Curse a while back. Hasbro bought WotC a while back.
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A good dark mode takes a lot of design work and time, like you said, inverting everything looks terrible.
You have to build an entire custom colour scheme that's optimised for low light viewing and apply that CSS site wide. You have to QA the whole site to ensure that every last part of it is readable, that all the art is viewable and some of that art might need custom changes; remember that the art D&D presents is created with the assumption of being printed on white or off-white paper.
Finally, once you've got that dark mode CSS made, tested site wide and any issues fixed, you then have to implement functionality to allow users to turn it on and off. That requires code work for adding the variable to the user profile, UI work so they've got an easy way to toggle it, and again, further testing. Gotta make sure that the selection remains between settings (don't want someone reloading the site and getting blinded), works between browsers and also between devices.
Basically, a good dark mode is a lot of work. You can't just invert the colours, and you can't just copy the colour scheme from another site.
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One of the sites I regularly use just updated their core CSS, and a large number of the bug complaints were related to people who had photosensitive-vertigo reactions, to the point that the devs were doing a writeup on it, the summary of which basically boils down to 'the causes and triggers of these kinds of reactions are incredibly under-studied by science, and what triggers person A will have no effect on person B, so what will fix the problem for some will create the problem for others, we're trying to find the best balance we can.' This is, of course, a site that allows for nearly full user customization of the CSS for viewing pages while logged in, which is not the case for DDB. But the 'fixing it for group A will break it for group B' part is still relevant.
Asking people for solutions that they've found might be a better way to go (and will probably get you quicker results, that you can use on multiple sites where you have an issue). If your issue is mostly white/light pages at night, then something like f.lux might be helpful -- it'll tone down your monitor as a whole, so it's application-agnostic.
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Ravelry is having issues like that too. (It’s like DDB for knitters.)
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I have such a love for this comment.
And the link is very interesting, it further highlights how careful you have to be with UX (user experience). Standard 'day mode' sites may be taxing on the eye at night/in dark conditions (I am a big advocate of Flux and Night Mode on android which dims the screen to a warm tint), but the last thing DDB wants is for people to be failing their IRL Con saves while trying to use the site!
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
I am glad to have both brought joy to your day, and “enlightenment” to the topic at hand.
(See what I did there?)
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That article points out that there's no direct link between Ravelry and the symptoms, but also surmises people expecting to experience symptoms after being told they might may experience symptoms.
I prefer Dark Mode, but Twitter's first attempt at Dark Mode had a lot of things becoming impossible to see. It has been through several iterations since that first attempt long ago - and they have lots of experienced people working on it.
It's not easy. Don't assume some inexperienced intern is going to be able to do it lickety-split.
It looks so easy to us on this side of the screen. It's not once you're on the other side of the screen.
Imagine the 50+ hours a week for months that produce a 90-minute movie. They make it look easy, but it's not.
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
I think you're being a bit overdramatic. If this website at night is causing you that much problems maybe you should see an optometrist?
1. Light background with dark text is actually better for most people, causing less eye strain than dark background than light text.
2. You shouldn't be using any screen in a dark setting. You should be using screens in well-lit areas. Doing anything different will cause eye strain.
3. Dark Mode can ease the strain if viewing a screen in a dark environment but it still causes some and is still an unhealthy habit.
4. While the website having its own tailored Dark Mode scheme is better, there are browser extensions that can impose something similar to websites to visit and work decently enough for this site, if you really had to use something.
5. Creating a Dark Mode is more complicated than you make it out to be. It's debatable on whether websites even should make such, given it encourages unhealthy viewing habits. So it's not like they "must" make one or anything. Requesting one is fine but ranting they don't have one is not - they're not obligated to provide one and this website colour scheme is actually quite optimal (not perfect, but it's fine) - for those who use it in a well-lit room like they're supposed to. If this website's colouring is difficult for you - then seek medical guidance because that would strongly indicate a problem with your eyes. D&D Beyond is not responsible for that.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.