They absolutely lied when they claimed previously purchased 'micro transactions' would be available. I bought the class options for a number of books. All gone. If I had realized they were going to do this crap, I would never have purchased the new rules.
This is theft.
I still have access to all the old content. What exactly are you missing? Check your entitlements. And make sure you have not accidentally created duplicate accounts, and if you did, make sure you logged into the right account.
They absolutely lied when they claimed previously purchased 'micro transactions' would be available. I bought the class options for a number of books. All gone. If I had realized they were going to do this crap, I would never have purchased the new rules.
This is theft.
In addition to what Gamma said, I will also add that the site has been a bit buggy the past few days as the dev team has been working in the background to prepare for the release of the 2024 rules. They have a major system maintenance planned on 2024/09/03, which you can see in the Announcements forum, which I imagine is in connection to both the bugs and the release.
I myself had trouble getting Travelers Clothes to pop up in the character sheet inventory. A page refresh solved the issue, but I also later had trouble with adding standard arrows and a refresh did not solve the issue. I am sure that these things are largely due to the work being done behind the scenes. Nothing has been taken from you. In all the years I have been on the site, the number of times that things were 'taken' from people has been literally zero. It's always, always user error or a bug.
They absolutely lied when they claimed previously purchased 'micro transactions' would be available. I bought the class options for a number of books. All gone. If I had realized they were going to do this crap, I would never have purchased the new rules.
This is theft.
In addition to what Gamma said, I will also add that the site has been a bit buggy the past few days as the dev team has been working in the background to prepare for the release of the 2024 rules. They have a major system maintenance planned on 2024/09/03, which you can see in the Announcements forum, which I imagine is in connection to both the bugs and the release.
I myself had trouble getting Travelers Clothes to pop up in the character sheet inventory. A page refresh solved the issue, but I also later had trouble with adding standard arrows and a refresh did not solve the issue. I am sure that these things are largely due to the work being done behind the scenes. Nothing has been taken from you. In all the years I have been on the site, the number of times that things were 'taken' from people has been literally zero. It's always, always user error or a bug.
Also they've changed the toggles in the character builder. Pretty much everything that's not in the core three books is under "Expanded Rules", even if it used to be available by default.
Thanks for the advice. Now, is there a way to delete comments? I really don't need any more abuse because the system is not working properly for me.
Look at your post you want to delete and at the bottom there should be a Tools button. Click that and you will have the option to delete.
Honestly I have not been paying much attention to this thread but I haven't seen you abused at all. What little pushback I have seen is over your accusation of theft, not because you were having technical issues.
They should have just made a whole new website for 2024.
They could have left the whole of DDB2014 alone and no longer supported by anything except moderators.
The new website for DDB2024. Could have started with just the PHB and a few forums to answer 2024 only questions.
Money saved on updating the old site. They could have even left the individual purchases option just for 2014.
Yeah that would have been nice, and made some sense. Unfortunately they don't actually want people to continue playing 2014 as it makes them no new (big) money. New editions are partially about updating rules and modernising, but mostly it's about renewing the cashflow. They will continue to say that people can play their own way, but they don't actually want that. It's the whole reason they've done this completely nonsense living game thing and claiming that it's not a new edition and they're compatible - even though more and more it is clear they're not.
They want to push people away from 2014 and by making it frustrating is their strategy to bring people over. Slowly gating access to the old stuff until it's simply not worth the hassle, whilst making the 2024 look really shiny and cool. It's a terrible strategy but not unheard of. It's what almost all major tech companies do to get people to update their devices.
If they didn't remove piecemeal for 2014 then it'd continue to encourage people to stay on 2014. Why they didn't keep it around for 2024 I don't know, as it was very useful. But money greed is the obvious answer to that.
Not only that, but the books pre-price bump will always stay at the lower price. That means if they can force people to buy the new books, they make more money than if people pick up the old ones. Considering how abjectly bad the new books have been with only rehashing old content instead of giving us new options, it's a harder sell unless you force the hand of buyers.
To be honest, I expected the 2024 books to have maybe two of the old subclasses and then do two entirely new subclasses for each class. They are supposed to be backwards compatible (they aren't because of how they retooled classes), so there's minimal point in rehashing more than that when you could instead bring out fresh ideas. If we had a la carte buying, know what I would do? Buy the player options, feats, and spells. Maybe even buy the whole phb. But instead they can watch me spend that money on 3pcs and their much better content.
After they got rid of a la carte purchases I started buying up the books second hand, which means they are much cheaper and my money doesn't go to hasbro. If I get the 2024 books at all in physical, I'll wait for them to be cheaper at the CEX shop on high street. If I can't buy the pieces I want, then I'm not buying more at all from the direct source.
They should have just made a whole new website for 2024.
They could have left the whole of DDB2014 alone and no longer supported by anything except moderators.
The new website for DDB2024. Could have started with just the PHB and a few forums to answer 2024 only questions.
Money saved on updating the old site. They could have even left the individual purchases option just for 2014.
Yeah that would have been nice, and made some sense. Unfortunately they don't actually want people to continue playing 2014 as it makes them no new (big) money. New editions are partially about updating rules and modernising, but mostly it's about renewing the cashflow. They will continue to say that people can play their own way, but they don't actually want that. It's the whole reason they've done this completely nonsense living game thing and claiming that it's not a new edition and they're compatible - even though more and more it is clear they're not.
They want to push people away from 2014 and by making it frustrating is their strategy to bring people over. Slowly gating access to the old stuff until it's simply not worth the hassle, whilst making the 2024 look really shiny and cool. It's a terrible strategy but not unheard of. It's what almost all major tech companies do to get people to update their devices.
If they didn't remove piecemeal for 2014 then it'd continue to encourage people to stay on 2014. Why they didn't keep it around for 2024 I don't know, as it was very useful. But money greed is the obvious answer to that.
Not only that, but the books pre-price bump will always stay at the lower price. That means if they can force people to buy the new books, they make more money than if people pick up the old ones. Considering how abjectly bad the new books have been with only rehashing old content instead of giving us new options, it's a harder sell unless you force the hand of buyers.
To be honest, I expected the 2024 books to have maybe two of the old subclasses and then do two entirely new subclasses for each class. They are supposed to be backwards compatible (they aren't because of how they retooled classes), so there's minimal point in rehashing more than that when you could instead bring out fresh ideas. If we had a la carte buying, know what I would do? Buy the player options, feats, and spells. Maybe even buy the whole phb. But instead they can watch me spend that money on 3pcs and their much better content.
After they got rid of a la carte purchases I started buying up the books second hand, which means they are much cheaper and my money doesn't go to hasbro. If I get the 2024 books at all in physical, I'll wait for them to be cheaper at the CEX shop on high street. If I can't buy the pieces I want, then I'm not buying more at all from the direct source.
Same here, I am very glad I got the physical books when I did, I expect them to go for way more than I had to pay in the last few years in the near future. I may be wishing I had bought more copies when they were as cheap as I got them to offset the loss of what I bought here on DDB if things keep going the direction on DDB things are now.
At least they can't screw with my physical books like they are my creation tools and by extension my DDB books, shame on them!
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I still agree with the Ala Carte menu needing to come back. I just play the game, only use the items, races (or whatever they are called now) and char gen content anyway. I spent much more money when I was buying piecemeal because I would do it for CONVIENIENCE to do something cool with a build. Now I weigh the cost of a full book vs the ITEMS and CHAR GEN components. So far the rewards for new books are lacking. No wish to join 2024 either.
Not to mention spells during char gen and spell swapping have doubled, with alot of spells being unchanged but relisted as 2024 versions. If I wanted to scroll for days I'd be on social media.
Used to say "Thanks Blizzard" back in the day when they messed up a popular game I USED to play, but now I find myself saying the same thing about DnDB.
I am boycotting all future purchases, both digital and physical, from WotC until they restore à la carte purchases and I will be encouraging my friends to do the same. It is a shame because I was looking forward to the release of OneDnD, but I'm sticking with this.
I am boycotting all future purchases, both digital and physical, from WotC until they restore à la carte purchases and I will be encouraging my friends to do the same. It is a shame because I was looking forward to the release of OneDnD, but I'm sticking with this.
Seconding this. I’ll still buy hard copy, but I’m done with digital purchases if it means having to buy the whole book twice.
I used to spend $1.99 here and $5.99 there for various character creation options or monsters. But I am not spending $29.99 just because one of my players wants an Arcana Domain cleric.
I just homebrewed Arcana Domain in the subclass creator tool instead. Can’t publish it because it’s detected as being similar to the official subclass, but I can still use it and I can still content-share it at my tables. I would have paid $1.99 to save the time it took me to do that, but not $29.99.
I think I’ll be spending a lot more time with the homebrew tools unless/until this decision is reversed.
This policy will cost DMs either more money or more time. Really, really not a smart move, especially when there’s a DM shortage.
No. They want to keep enticing large purchases instead of more accessible small purchases. I'm not sure they will ever bring it back, which I still believe is a poor business choice.
No. They want to keep enticing large purchases instead of more accessible small purchases. I'm not sure they will ever bring it back, which I still believe is a poor business choice.
You have a choice. Either not buy anything from wotc, or buy complete books. It is up to you, as a consumer. wotc has made it clear what the corporate position is.
I've made my choice. I've not bought anything since from this site. A la carte buying enticed me into spending and eventually buying entire books I might not have otherwise bought. Without it, the content presented for purchasing just isn't good enough to get me to drop £25 on.
No. They want to keep enticing large purchases instead of more accessible small purchases. I'm not sure they will ever bring it back, which I still believe is a poor business choice.
You have a choice. Either not buy anything from wotc, or buy complete books. It is up to you, as a consumer. wotc has made it clear what the corporate position is.
There is a third choice, you can buy hard copies from WotC but no DDB content. That's my path. I cancelled my subscription and have not made a purchase on DDB since they removed a la carte items. My table has gone back to pencil and paper.
This claim is a complete lie.
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You don't have to be a jerk. This is a serious issue. How much purchased content have you lost?
I still have access to all the old content. What exactly are you missing? Check your entitlements. And make sure you have not accidentally created duplicate accounts, and if you did, make sure you logged into the right account.
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In addition to what Gamma said, I will also add that the site has been a bit buggy the past few days as the dev team has been working in the background to prepare for the release of the 2024 rules. They have a major system maintenance planned on 2024/09/03, which you can see in the Announcements forum, which I imagine is in connection to both the bugs and the release.
I myself had trouble getting Travelers Clothes to pop up in the character sheet inventory. A page refresh solved the issue, but I also later had trouble with adding standard arrows and a refresh did not solve the issue. I am sure that these things are largely due to the work being done behind the scenes. Nothing has been taken from you. In all the years I have been on the site, the number of times that things were 'taken' from people has been literally zero. It's always, always user error or a bug.
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Also they've changed the toggles in the character builder. Pretty much everything that's not in the core three books is under "Expanded Rules", even if it used to be available by default.
Thanks for the advice. Now, is there a way to delete comments? I really don't need any more abuse because the system is not working properly for me.
Look at your post you want to delete and at the bottom there should be a Tools button. Click that and you will have the option to delete.
Honestly I have not been paying much attention to this thread but I haven't seen you abused at all. What little pushback I have seen is over your accusation of theft, not because you were having technical issues.
Not only that, but the books pre-price bump will always stay at the lower price. That means if they can force people to buy the new books, they make more money than if people pick up the old ones. Considering how abjectly bad the new books have been with only rehashing old content instead of giving us new options, it's a harder sell unless you force the hand of buyers.
To be honest, I expected the 2024 books to have maybe two of the old subclasses and then do two entirely new subclasses for each class. They are supposed to be backwards compatible (they aren't because of how they retooled classes), so there's minimal point in rehashing more than that when you could instead bring out fresh ideas. If we had a la carte buying, know what I would do? Buy the player options, feats, and spells. Maybe even buy the whole phb. But instead they can watch me spend that money on 3pcs and their much better content.
After they got rid of a la carte purchases I started buying up the books second hand, which means they are much cheaper and my money doesn't go to hasbro. If I get the 2024 books at all in physical, I'll wait for them to be cheaper at the CEX shop on high street. If I can't buy the pieces I want, then I'm not buying more at all from the direct source.
Same here, I am very glad I got the physical books when I did, I expect them to go for way more than I had to pay in the last few years in the near future. I may be wishing I had bought more copies when they were as cheap as I got them to offset the loss of what I bought here on DDB if things keep going the direction on DDB things are now.
At least they can't screw with my physical books like they are my creation tools and by extension my DDB books, shame on them!
CENSORSHIP IS THE TOOL OF COWARDS and WANNA BE TYRANTS.
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I still agree with the Ala Carte menu needing to come back. I just play the game, only use the items, races (or whatever they are called now) and char gen content anyway. I spent much more money when I was buying piecemeal because I would do it for CONVIENIENCE to do something cool with a build. Now I weigh the cost of a full book vs the ITEMS and CHAR GEN components. So far the rewards for new books are lacking. No wish to join 2024 either.
Not to mention spells during char gen and spell swapping have doubled, with alot of spells being unchanged but relisted as 2024 versions. If I wanted to scroll for days I'd be on social media.
Used to say "Thanks Blizzard" back in the day when they messed up a popular game I USED to play, but now I find myself saying the same thing about DnDB.
Just bumping this article.
Didn't DnDB walk back deleting the 2014 magic items and Spells?
They did when we had mass sub cancellation part 2. It couldn't have come at a worse time as the new book is coming out.
They grossly misjudged how much we would allow, and they are paying for it dearly.
Unsurprising that DnD Beyond hasn't said a thing about this. It is clear that nobody behind this site cares about the customer anymore.
I am boycotting all future purchases, both digital and physical, from WotC until they restore à la carte purchases and I will be encouraging my friends to do the same. It is a shame because I was looking forward to the release of OneDnD, but I'm sticking with this.
Seconding this. I’ll still buy hard copy, but I’m done with digital purchases if it means having to buy the whole book twice.
I used to spend $1.99 here and $5.99 there for various character creation options or monsters. But I am not spending $29.99 just because one of my players wants an Arcana Domain cleric.
I just homebrewed Arcana Domain in the subclass creator tool instead. Can’t publish it because it’s detected as being similar to the official subclass, but I can still use it and I can still content-share it at my tables. I would have paid $1.99 to save the time it took me to do that, but not $29.99.
I think I’ll be spending a lot more time with the homebrew tools unless/until this decision is reversed.
This policy will cost DMs either more money or more time. Really, really not a smart move, especially when there’s a DM shortage.
Have they not fixed this yet?
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No. They want to keep enticing large purchases instead of more accessible small purchases. I'm not sure they will ever bring it back, which I still believe is a poor business choice.
I was looking forward to buying classes, feats, equipment, magic items, and spells from the 2024 handbook via la carte.
I've made my choice. I've not bought anything since from this site. A la carte buying enticed me into spending and eventually buying entire books I might not have otherwise bought. Without it, the content presented for purchasing just isn't good enough to get me to drop £25 on.
There is a third choice, you can buy hard copies from WotC but no DDB content. That's my path. I cancelled my subscription and have not made a purchase on DDB since they removed a la carte items. My table has gone back to pencil and paper.