You do know D&D 5e exists outside of DnDBeyond, right?
Is your stance then that he spent "thousands" outside of DnDB, but only purchased a few ala carte items from 5e?
Then you know his claim of it losing them thousands because he isn't allowed to ala carte buy anymore is still false, right? And if his purchases weren't on DnDb to begin with, then he was never spending thousands there to begin with. They can't lose what they don't have.
I get being pissed off about the change. It was a dumb move that did hinder some folks. But this poster claiming they spend thousands and now WotC is losing those thousands isn't one of them.
He's likely just hyperbolic and not being truthful.
WotC made a dumb decision.
Both can be true.
Buddy, you misread everything. I personally spent hundreds here, thousands elsewhere on 5e products from third party creators (3pcs). These include Storyteller Forge, Natwuns, Nord Games, Loresmyth, Legendary Games, and so many more. I also support several creators on patreon for access to their Foundry mods of content. Hell, I dropped half a grand alone on a set of 2D minis from Splattered Ink. 5e is so much more than just the WotC official content.
Also keep in mind this choice effects their income from multiple people across multiple countries. In other words, many tens make thousands. I liked buying piecemeal because I got useful products where buying the full book upfront would have never happened. Sometimes when I bought enough, the price would be enticing enough for me to just buy out the full book at the reduced rate. This process often would be over a few months, maybe a year if the main content was bland. Sometimes I would be suckered by a teaser and pre-order only to be heavily disappointed by the content upon release. Dozens of others I personally know have closed their wallets, and that alone will cost over a few thousand. Extrapolate that data with the enhanced data from what many are doing, and you get more thousands in revenue lost. Ergo; this choice will cost the company thousands as a net loss in profits.
So, too long didn't read; many hundreds of people no longer buying any content as piecemeal isn't an option adds up to thousands of lost revenue. That revenue can be spent on better quality products from 3pcs, or other systems entirely.
Also, it's she. Unless you know something I don't, I'm a she.
I mean the other thing this just encourages is like I do, I have a friend, they are not in any campaigns on DnD beyond currently, but they do own a ton of content, they happily just park a character in a campaign of anyone they know with sharing on so that party can access all the stuff for free, that one friend currently is sharing content to 12 campaigns last I checked, this al la carte policy will make this kind of behaviour more and more prevalent with people less an dless likely to buy material when a friend can just park a character in the campaign and leave it there.
You do know D&D 5e exists outside of DnDBeyond, right?
Is your stance then that he spent "thousands" outside of DnDB, but only purchased a few ala carte items from 5e?
Then you know his claim of it losing them thousands because he isn't allowed to ala carte buy anymore is still false, right? And if his purchases weren't on DnDb to begin with, then he was never spending thousands there to begin with. They can't lose what they don't have.
I get being pissed off about the change. It was a dumb move that did hinder some folks. But this poster claiming they spend thousands and now WotC is losing those thousands isn't one of them.
He's likely just hyperbolic and not being truthful.
WotC made a dumb decision.
Both can be true.
Buddy, you misread everything. I personally spent hundreds here, thousands elsewhere on 5e products from third party creators (3pcs). These include Storyteller Forge, Natwuns, Nord Games, Loresmyth, Legendary Games, and so many more. I also support several creators on patreon for access to their Foundry mods of content. Hell, I dropped half a grand alone on a set of 2D minis from Splattered Ink. 5e is so much more than just the WotC official content.
Also keep in mind this choice effects their income from multiple people across multiple countries. In other words, many tens make thousands. I liked buying piecemeal because I got useful products where buying the full book upfront would have never happened. Sometimes when I bought enough, the price would be enticing enough for me to just buy out the full book at the reduced rate. This process often would be over a few months, maybe a year if the main content was bland. Sometimes I would be suckered by a teaser and pre-order only to be heavily disappointed by the content upon release. Dozens of others I personally know have closed their wallets, and that alone will cost over a few thousand. Extrapolate that data with the enhanced data from what many are doing, and you get more thousands in revenue lost. Ergo; this choice will cost the company thousands as a net loss in profits.
So, too long didn't read; many hundreds of people no longer buying any content as piecemeal isn't an option adds up to thousands of lost revenue. That revenue can be spent on better quality products from 3pcs, or other systems entirely.
Also, it's she. Unless you know something I don't, I'm a she.
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Buddy, you're spending thousands of dollars on 5e content, but are upset you can no longer make a two dollar purchase? Yeah, sounds like a truthful take for sure.
Buddy, you're spending thousands of dollars on 5e content, but are upset you can no longer make a two dollar purchase? Yeah, sounds like a truthful take for sure.
That sums up where I am at exactly. Spent the money and no more from me, the piece meal is just the last straw.
ETA: it is not that I can't spend the money, but that I won't spend the money.
I mean it matches my situation, I haven't spent thousands, but I have bought pretty much all the books over a number of years, plus 3rd party content and invested money in DnD Beyond and other tools. I already own the fluff and the rules and all of the classes, sub classes, magic and species, I accept that I should not expect to just get that material for free here on DnD Beyond, but, I also am going to refuse to pay for a digital replica of the players handbook just to allow a player to make a subclass that is not in the base game. I will consider spending £2 on that individual subclass.
So yes for me personally I have spent loads of money on DnD to buy the physical books, I am also upset I can no longer make a £2 purchase to access a tiny part of those books digitally.
I mean it matches my situation, I haven't spent thousands, but I have bought pretty much all the books over a number of years, plus 3rd party content and invested money in DnD Beyond and other tools. I already own the fluff and the rules and all of the classes, sub classes, magic and species, I accept that I should not expect to just get that material for free here on DnD Beyond, but, I also am going to refuse to pay for a digital replica of the players handbook just to allow a player to make a subclass that is not in the base game. I will consider spending £2 on that individual subclass.
So yes for me personally I have spent loads of money on DnD to buy the physical books, I am also upset I can no longer make a £2 purchase to access a tiny part of those books digitally.
The newer content really doesn't have originality or heart to it, at least not enough for me to buy them regularly. I guess that's why they've side-stepped into partnered content which is interesting and fresh.
Hopefully they will backstep, but I don't think it will fix the damage done.
You do know D&D 5e exists outside of DnDBeyond, right?
Is your stance then that he spent "thousands" outside of DnDB, but only purchased a few ala carte items from 5e?
Then you know his claim of it losing them thousands because he isn't allowed to ala carte buy anymore is still false, right? And if his purchases weren't on DnDb to begin with, then he was never spending thousands there to begin with. They can't lose what they don't have.
I get being pissed off about the change. It was a dumb move that did hinder some folks. But this poster claiming they spend thousands and now WotC is losing those thousands isn't one of them.
He's likely just hyperbolic and not being truthful.
WotC made a dumb decision.
Both can be true.
Buddy, you misread everything. I personally spent hundreds here, thousands elsewhere on 5e products from third party creators (3pcs). These include Storyteller Forge, Natwuns, Nord Games, Loresmyth, Legendary Games, and so many more. I also support several creators on patreon for access to their Foundry mods of content. Hell, I dropped half a grand alone on a set of 2D minis from Splattered Ink. 5e is so much more than just the WotC official content.
Also keep in mind this choice effects their income from multiple people across multiple countries. In other words, many tens make thousands. I liked buying piecemeal because I got useful products where buying the full book upfront would have never happened. Sometimes when I bought enough, the price would be enticing enough for me to just buy out the full book at the reduced rate. This process often would be over a few months, maybe a year if the main content was bland. Sometimes I would be suckered by a teaser and pre-order only to be heavily disappointed by the content upon release. Dozens of others I personally know have closed their wallets, and that alone will cost over a few thousand. Extrapolate that data with the enhanced data from what many are doing, and you get more thousands in revenue lost. Ergo; this choice will cost the company thousands as a net loss in profits.
So, too long didn't read; many hundreds of people no longer buying any content as piecemeal isn't an option adds up to thousands of lost revenue. That revenue can be spent on better quality products from 3pcs, or other systems entirely.
Also, it's she. Unless you know something I don't, I'm a she.
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Buddy, you're spending thousands of dollars on 5e content, but are upset you can no longer make a two dollar purchase? Yeah, sounds like a truthful take for sure.
This is a completely valid take though. Unless there's some kind a investment threshold that once met grants you immunity from cooperates anti-consumer practices that I am unaware of, why is this unreasonable?
I'm so pissed. I just found out about this now. I was buying a la carte as my players leveled up. We had some downtime and just picked back up. Went to go grab a couple things and I can't.
I simply can't justify buying the full books and now they will get nothing from us. What a dumb thing they've done.
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Buddy, you misread everything. I personally spent hundreds here, thousands elsewhere on 5e products from third party creators (3pcs). These include Storyteller Forge, Natwuns, Nord Games, Loresmyth, Legendary Games, and so many more. I also support several creators on patreon for access to their Foundry mods of content. Hell, I dropped half a grand alone on a set of 2D minis from Splattered Ink. 5e is so much more than just the WotC official content.
Also keep in mind this choice effects their income from multiple people across multiple countries. In other words, many tens make thousands. I liked buying piecemeal because I got useful products where buying the full book upfront would have never happened. Sometimes when I bought enough, the price would be enticing enough for me to just buy out the full book at the reduced rate. This process often would be over a few months, maybe a year if the main content was bland. Sometimes I would be suckered by a teaser and pre-order only to be heavily disappointed by the content upon release. Dozens of others I personally know have closed their wallets, and that alone will cost over a few thousand. Extrapolate that data with the enhanced data from what many are doing, and you get more thousands in revenue lost. Ergo; this choice will cost the company thousands as a net loss in profits.
So, too long didn't read; many hundreds of people no longer buying any content as piecemeal isn't an option adds up to thousands of lost revenue. That revenue can be spent on better quality products from 3pcs, or other systems entirely.
Also, it's she. Unless you know something I don't, I'm a she.
[REDACTED]
Would be good if someone were to find out what this is actually costing DDB/WoTC.
I mean the other thing this just encourages is like I do, I have a friend, they are not in any campaigns on DnD beyond currently, but they do own a ton of content, they happily just park a character in a campaign of anyone they know with sharing on so that party can access all the stuff for free, that one friend currently is sharing content to 12 campaigns last I checked, this al la carte policy will make this kind of behaviour more and more prevalent with people less an dless likely to buy material when a friend can just park a character in the campaign and leave it there.
Buddy, you're spending thousands of dollars on 5e content, but are upset you can no longer make a two dollar purchase? Yeah, sounds like a truthful take for sure.
That sums up where I am at exactly. Spent the money and no more from me, the piece meal is just the last straw.
ETA: it is not that I can't spend the money, but that I won't spend the money.
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I mean it matches my situation, I haven't spent thousands, but I have bought pretty much all the books over a number of years, plus 3rd party content and invested money in DnD Beyond and other tools. I already own the fluff and the rules and all of the classes, sub classes, magic and species, I accept that I should not expect to just get that material for free here on DnD Beyond, but, I also am going to refuse to pay for a digital replica of the players handbook just to allow a player to make a subclass that is not in the base game. I will consider spending £2 on that individual subclass.
So yes for me personally I have spent loads of money on DnD to buy the physical books, I am also upset I can no longer make a £2 purchase to access a tiny part of those books digitally.
The newer content really doesn't have originality or heart to it, at least not enough for me to buy them regularly. I guess that's why they've side-stepped into partnered content which is interesting and fresh.
Hopefully they will backstep, but I don't think it will fix the damage done.
This is a completely valid take though. Unless there's some kind a investment threshold that once met grants you immunity from cooperates anti-consumer practices that I am unaware of, why is this unreasonable?
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[Flourishing], [Sanguine],[Themberchaud], [Baldur's Gate 3], [Lego].I'm so pissed. I just found out about this now. I was buying a la carte as my players leveled up. We had some downtime and just picked back up. Went to go grab a couple things and I can't.
I simply can't justify buying the full books and now they will get nothing from us. What a dumb thing they've done.