I tried to make a 2014 "legacy" Elf Cleric for a friend yesterday (new to the game) and despite 30 minutes of tinkering the character was hard locked into the +1 Wisdom Score. Nothing I tried would let me use Tashas Score change.
It still works with non-player handbook races (MoM and other additional races seem unaffected) but Elves, Tieflings, Dwarves etc are hard locked out of Tashas. I didn't check if the "legacy" classes were affected in the same way.
It's so stupid that there isn't a button to revert to the 2014 rules without having to deal with all the subtle and confusing changes that permeate everything.
Makes me want to ditch my subscription and go back to physical sheets. If I can't use the site properly, in the way I was using two days ago, as a paying customer then there's no point forking over the cash. I'll just sink the subscription cost into physical copies of the books and call it a day.
I have never commented on a thread post here before, but throwing my voice out there to agree.
Some types of characters are no longer viable under the new rules (specifically a grappler build that was active in a campaign I am currently running). The forced rule changes have made it so that if you do not know the old rules, you cannot find them anywhere. Please allow us to toggle the changes. So far in my tinkering I have not found a way to "hide" the new unarmed strike rules, or to show the old grapple rules. This is a very specific example, but should have been something that was always planned for allowing a toggle at least for a certain period of time until all the bugs with the new system are worked out.
All the spells being doubled is annoying as hell, not to mention all my players have to relearn how to use the site mid-campaign. It is toxic how they expect us to just accept the change and not have a say in the matter.
Yeah we were playing tonight and whenever we were looking at rules on our character sheets they were now all full of the new 2024 rules. (We first noticed that when a player was trying a grapple and his character sheet now said it worked with a save instead of an opposition check). It’s not that we won’t ever play with the new rule set, it’s that right now we are in a couple of campaigns that we intend to finish with the rules we know and not have to argue with both set of rules at the same time. This should simply be obvious…
+1.
I am in 3 Legacy campaigns at the moment. I will switch to 2024 rules with all new campaigns but all of the character's and encounters for the old campaign were designed with the old rules in mind so it would be nice to have this option.
I will try to keep an open mind as the digital 2024 Player's Handbook (PHB) only became available a couple of days ago and I believe the official PHB release isn't scheduled for at least 10 more days.
Also it is hard for me to fully embrace the 2024 PHB until the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide (DMG) and Monster Manual (MM) are officially released because it feels like those are needed to truly utilize the 2024 PHB.
It would be good to just toggle 2024 content on or off entirely on the first page of the character builder. This would make using the tool much easier.
I'm not opposed to using the 2024 rules and will likely use in future campaigns and games, but if I am running or playing a legacy game, I don't want to have the confusion of 2024 vs legacy rules in my toolset. Right now it takes me twice as long to look through spell lists when preparing daily spells, selecting any new feats is also a chore, and I have to be super diligent when checking rules. Not ideal for a tool intended to make our gaming experience easier!
Please please please add a 2024 toggle to character sheets!
+1. Just finished Session 1 and now the rules have changed without my consent. Adding my voice to the complaints. This is unacceptable customer service. People in charge should face disciplinary action for not anticipating these issues or not caring about their customers. If software developers pushed software updates the way the 2024 rules have been pushed, the entire industry would blacklist them. Like Cloudstrike....
My group all started playing dnd this year for the first time and we’re still trying to get our heads around everything. The change to the app and the forced implementation of things without being able to toggle off is almost defeating for something we’ve just begun to really love.
I just logged in to enter a player character into a campaign I'm running and the character creator is simply unusable now. I went with DNDBeyond to save time on this kind of thing but wading through all this 2024 junk takes longer than just using pen and paper. I stuck around through the OGL scandal because of convenience, now that's gone and so am I.
I tried to make a 2014 "legacy" Elf Cleric for a friend yesterday (new to the game) and despite 30 minutes of tinkering the character was hard locked into the +1 Wisdom Score. Nothing I tried would let me use Tashas Score change.
It still works with non-player handbook races (MoM and other additional races seem unaffected) but Elves, Tieflings, Dwarves etc are hard locked out of Tashas. I didn't check if the "legacy" classes were affected in the same way.
It's so stupid that there isn't a button to revert to the 2014 rules without having to deal with all the subtle and confusing changes that permeate everything.
Makes me want to ditch my subscription and go back to physical sheets. If I can't use the site properly, in the way I was using two days ago, as a paying customer then there's no point forking over the cash. I'll just sink the subscription cost into physical copies of the books and call it a day.
I'm guessing you were using a Wood Elf and trying to swap the +2 DEX and +1 WIS into different bonuses, right?
I just tested this with a Wood Elf character of my own. It wasn't a new character from scratch but I was able to assign the bonuses to different attributes. I know you said you tried everything, but I want to confirm if you toggled the "Customize You Origin" toggle under Optional Features. And then under Abilities tab you should see the bars labelled "Origin Ability Score Increase (race name)".
I just logged in to enter a player character into a campaign I'm running and the character creator is simply unusable now. I went with DNDBeyond to save time on this kind of thing but wading through all this 2024 junk takes longer than just using pen and paper. I stuck around through the OGL scandal because of convenience, now that's gone and so am I.
Subscription cancelled.
Same here. Subscription cancelled until this website provide me again what I was looking for at the beginning: convenience.
Yeah... I gotta agree. I'm a couple weeks away from DMing a new campaign, and I don't have the time to learn a new rule system at the moment, but my players are being forced to adapt in their character creation and it's ridiculous.
yes please, i've canceled my sub at this point as I'll be moving back to pen and paper with books if the character builder isn't going to support 5th edition and force us into 6th edition.
After they walked back the original announcement, I was hoping I could stick with using D&D Beyond for our character sheets, but seeing 2024 rules randomly and inconsistently intrude onto our sheets in ways that just seem to make things confusing (e.g. new unarmed strike rules? The monk in our three-year-long campaign had to point out that those were the new rules and now we have to know to ignore them because they are wrong.), makes me want to switch back to using Roll20 sheets as I had planned to do earlier this month, and re-cancel my subscription. The advantage of D&D Beyond is that it is beautiful and seamless and integrated with the books I've already bought. If those advantages go away, why am I paying for it again…?
[Quoted Message Deleted] they could simply add an option to toggle between whichever version a group wants, so groups that have been enjoying it for 10 years can continue to do so with the tool we've been happily paying for.
And everyone who wants to endorse the stealth edition change can do so, but there's no reason to ruin 5th edition and 5th edition tools to do it.
Im trying to get a campaign but when the players saw the doubled spells and how confusing finding which edition we were going to use decided to wait
I use DnD beyond for the ease of use but its basically turned into the opposite. Im planning on canceling my membership over this as it goes against the whole point of paying, let alone using DnDB at all. if the 2024 PHB is supposed to be not replace 5e we should be able to toggle 2024 content compared to Legacy.
this sucks. its such a quality of life improvement.
I will not be utilizing the 2024 rules and they need a toggle off option in character sheets and in campaigns. if this is done quickly, I will keep my subscription, if not, I will cancel it and go back to paper sheets.
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I tried to make a 2014 "legacy" Elf Cleric for a friend yesterday (new to the game) and despite 30 minutes of tinkering the character was hard locked into the +1 Wisdom Score. Nothing I tried would let me use Tashas Score change.
It still works with non-player handbook races (MoM and other additional races seem unaffected) but Elves, Tieflings, Dwarves etc are hard locked out of Tashas. I didn't check if the "legacy" classes were affected in the same way.
It's so stupid that there isn't a button to revert to the 2014 rules without having to deal with all the subtle and confusing changes that permeate everything.
Makes me want to ditch my subscription and go back to physical sheets. If I can't use the site properly, in the way I was using two days ago, as a paying customer then there's no point forking over the cash. I'll just sink the subscription cost into physical copies of the books and call it a day.
this needs fix so back, please, PHB 2024 is bad and dnd should feel bad
WoTC do this please. It's such a pain to have to select everything but the 2024 phb to exclude it from searches.
I have never commented on a thread post here before, but throwing my voice out there to agree.
Some types of characters are no longer viable under the new rules (specifically a grappler build that was active in a campaign I am currently running).
The forced rule changes have made it so that if you do not know the old rules, you cannot find them anywhere. Please allow us to toggle the changes. So far in my tinkering I have not found a way to "hide" the new unarmed strike rules, or to show the old grapple rules. This is a very specific example, but should have been something that was always planned for allowing a toggle at least for a certain period of time until all the bugs with the new system are worked out.
please please please turn off toggle thing
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All the spells being doubled is annoying as hell, not to mention all my players have to relearn how to use the site mid-campaign. It is toxic how they expect us to just accept the change and not have a say in the matter.
+1.
I am in 3 Legacy campaigns at the moment. I will switch to 2024 rules with all new campaigns but all of the character's and encounters for the old campaign were designed with the old rules in mind so it would be nice to have this option.
I will try to keep an open mind as the digital 2024 Player's Handbook (PHB) only became available a couple of days ago and I believe the official PHB release isn't scheduled for at least 10 more days.
Also it is hard for me to fully embrace the 2024 PHB until the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide (DMG) and Monster Manual (MM) are officially released because it feels like those are needed to truly utilize the 2024 PHB.
+1
It would be good to just toggle 2024 content on or off entirely on the first page of the character builder. This would make using the tool much easier.
I'm not opposed to using the 2024 rules and will likely use in future campaigns and games, but if I am running or playing a legacy game, I don't want to have the confusion of 2024 vs legacy rules in my toolset. Right now it takes me twice as long to look through spell lists when preparing daily spells, selecting any new feats is also a chore, and I have to be super diligent when checking rules. Not ideal for a tool intended to make our gaming experience easier!
Please please please add a 2024 toggle to character sheets!
+1. Just finished Session 1 and now the rules have changed without my consent. Adding my voice to the complaints. This is unacceptable customer service. People in charge should face disciplinary action for not anticipating these issues or not caring about their customers. If software developers pushed software updates the way the 2024 rules have been pushed, the entire industry would blacklist them. Like Cloudstrike....
My group all started playing dnd this year for the first time and we’re still trying to get our heads around everything. The change to the app and the forced implementation of things without being able to toggle off is almost defeating for something we’ve just begun to really love.
I just logged in to enter a player character into a campaign I'm running and the character creator is simply unusable now. I went with DNDBeyond to save time on this kind of thing but wading through all this 2024 junk takes longer than just using pen and paper. I stuck around through the OGL scandal because of convenience, now that's gone and so am I.
Subscription cancelled.
I'm guessing you were using a Wood Elf and trying to swap the +2 DEX and +1 WIS into different bonuses, right?
I just tested this with a Wood Elf character of my own. It wasn't a new character from scratch but I was able to assign the bonuses to different attributes. I know you said you tried everything, but I want to confirm if you toggled the "Customize You Origin" toggle under Optional Features. And then under Abilities tab you should see the bars labelled "Origin Ability Score Increase (race name)".
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Same here. Subscription cancelled until this website provide me again what I was looking for at the beginning: convenience.
+1 please!!
Yeah... I gotta agree. I'm a couple weeks away from DMing a new campaign, and I don't have the time to learn a new rule system at the moment, but my players are being forced to adapt in their character creation and it's ridiculous.
yes please, i've canceled my sub at this point as I'll be moving back to pen and paper with books if the character builder isn't going to support 5th edition and force us into 6th edition.
After they walked back the original announcement, I was hoping I could stick with using D&D Beyond for our character sheets, but seeing 2024 rules randomly and inconsistently intrude onto our sheets in ways that just seem to make things confusing (e.g. new unarmed strike rules? The monk in our three-year-long campaign had to point out that those were the new rules and now we have to know to ignore them because they are wrong.), makes me want to switch back to using Roll20 sheets as I had planned to do earlier this month, and re-cancel my subscription. The advantage of D&D Beyond is that it is beautiful and seamless and integrated with the books I've already bought. If those advantages go away, why am I paying for it again…?
they could simply add an option to toggle between whichever version a group wants, so groups that have been enjoying it for 10 years can continue to do so with the tool we've been happily paying for.
And everyone who wants to endorse the stealth edition change can do so, but there's no reason to ruin 5th edition and 5th edition tools to do it.
2024Im trying to get a campaign but when the players saw the doubled spells and how confusing finding which edition we were going to use decided to wait
I use DnD beyond for the ease of use but its basically turned into the opposite. Im planning on canceling my membership over this as it goes against the whole point of paying, let alone using DnDB at all. if the 2024 PHB is supposed to be not replace 5e we should be able to toggle 2024 content compared to Legacy.
this sucks. its such a quality of life improvement.
I will not be utilizing the 2024 rules and they need a toggle off option in character sheets and in campaigns. if this is done quickly, I will keep my subscription, if not, I will cancel it and go back to paper sheets.