The last time the setting I prefer, Mystara, was officially supported, TSR still published D&D. So I don’t care one fig about the official lore today since it’s all FR.
Greyhawk for me, but I see your point. My only "demand" is that the lore is internally consistent. Clarifying: not the alignment stuff, but for example, now that Spelljammer is going to come out, that the Astral and Wyldspace travels from one world to another don't make holes in other lore/plot lines.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised at the numbers so far. I really expected 3 to be the most common with both 4 and 2 being in close running with each other. I didn't expect 1 to be as high as it is. Hopefully there will be more activity over the course of the next couple of days. It would be interesting to see if the current percentages shift much as more people vote.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised at the numbers so far. I really expected 3 to be the most common with both 4 and 2 being in close running with each other. I didn't expect 1 to be as high as it is. Hopefully there will be more activity over the course of the next couple of days. It would be interesting to see if the current percentages shift much as more people vote.
I’m a bit curious as to your reasoning behind your predictions. Most folks I meet fall in category 4 - they utilise some of the lore to provide a baseline that everyone at the table might have a passing familiarity with (pantheons, city names, etc.) then add their own spin, homebrew, and flair to the existing content, without fully tossing it out the window.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised at the numbers so far. I really expected 3 to be the most common with both 4 and 2 being in close running with each other. I didn't expect 1 to be as high as it is. Hopefully there will be more activity over the course of the next couple of days. It would be interesting to see if the current percentages shift much as more people vote.
I’m a bit curious as to your reasoning behind your predictions. Most folks I meet fall in category 4 - they utilise some of the lore to provide a baseline that everyone at the table might have a passing familiarity with (pantheons, city names, etc.) then add their own spin, homebrew, and flair to the existing content, without fully tossing it out the window.
Because most folks I meet don't actually know any of the lore or have an interest in it beyond what the DM tells them. That lead me to believe that most people would fall somewhere in the middle.
That is also why anecdotal evidence is pretty much useless, thus the poll.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised at the numbers so far. I really expected 3 to be the most common with both 4 and 2 being in close running with each other. I didn't expect 1 to be as high as it is. Hopefully there will be more activity over the course of the next couple of days. It would be interesting to see if the current percentages shift much as more people vote.
It was a hard choice between 3 and 4 for me. On the one hand I think it's somewhat important, on the other I can live with or without it.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised at the numbers so far. I really expected 3 to be the most common with both 4 and 2 being in close running with each other. I didn't expect 1 to be as high as it is. Hopefully there will be more activity over the course of the next couple of days. It would be interesting to see if the current percentages shift much as more people vote.
I’m a bit curious as to your reasoning behind your predictions. Most folks I meet fall in category 4 - they utilise some of the lore to provide a baseline that everyone at the table might have a passing familiarity with (pantheons, city names, etc.) then add their own spin, homebrew, and flair to the existing content, without fully tossing it out the window.
Because most folks I meet don't actually know any of the lore or have an interest in it beyond what the DM tells them. That lead me to believe that most people would fall somewhere in the middle.
That is also why anecdotal evidence is pretty much useless, thus the poll.
It's like that meme - 98.9% responded to a survey saying that they loved filling out surveys and 1.1% responded that they just throw them all in the bin.
People who come to this site to discuss D&D are going to be opinionated and outspoken about them. The more opinionated and outspoken of that group will be the more likely to be the ones responding to your poll, meaning your results will be biased towards the extreme. People who have a bit more nuance to their views and expressions, like mine, are less likely to respond at all, just as I haven't. I would expect the more extreme options to be more popular.
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I have to say that I am a bit surprised at the numbers so far. I really expected 3 to be the most common with both 4 and 2 being in close running with each other. I didn't expect 1 to be as high as it is. Hopefully there will be more activity over the course of the next couple of days. It would be interesting to see if the current percentages shift much as more people vote.
I’m a bit curious as to your reasoning behind your predictions. Most folks I meet fall in category 4 - they utilise some of the lore to provide a baseline that everyone at the table might have a passing familiarity with (pantheons, city names, etc.) then add their own spin, homebrew, and flair to the existing content, without fully tossing it out the window.
Because most folks I meet don't actually know any of the lore or have an interest in it beyond what the DM tells them. That lead me to believe that most people would fall somewhere in the middle.
That is also why anecdotal evidence is pretty much useless, thus the poll.
It's like that meme - 98.9% responded to a survey saying that they loved filling out surveys and 1.1% responded that they just throw them all in the bin.
People who come to this site to discuss D&D are going to be opinionated and outspoken about them. The more opinionated and outspoken of that group will be the more likely to be the ones responding to your poll, meaning your results will be biased towards the extreme. People who have a bit more nuance to their views and expressions, like mine, are less likely to respond at all, just as I haven't. I would expect the more extreme options to be more popular.
This is why I prefer poll results over comments. Opinionated people may comment repeatedly, but they only get to vote once. People that prefer not to comment at all still vote. This is easily demonstrated by the number of votes vs the number of comments on this thread.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised at the numbers so far. I really expected 3 to be the most common with both 4 and 2 being in close running with each other. I didn't expect 1 to be as high as it is. Hopefully there will be more activity over the course of the next couple of days. It would be interesting to see if the current percentages shift much as more people vote.
I’m a bit curious as to your reasoning behind your predictions. Most folks I meet fall in category 4 - they utilise some of the lore to provide a baseline that everyone at the table might have a passing familiarity with (pantheons, city names, etc.) then add their own spin, homebrew, and flair to the existing content, without fully tossing it out the window.
Because most folks I meet don't actually know any of the lore or have an interest in it beyond what the DM tells them. That lead me to believe that most people would fall somewhere in the middle.
That is also why anecdotal evidence is pretty much useless, thus the poll.
It's like that meme - 98.9% responded to a survey saying that they loved filling out surveys and 1.1% responded that they just throw them all in the bin.
People who come to this site to discuss D&D are going to be opinionated and outspoken about them. The more opinionated and outspoken of that group will be the more likely to be the ones responding to your poll, meaning your results will be biased towards the extreme. People who have a bit more nuance to their views and expressions, like mine, are less likely to respond at all, just as I haven't. I would expect the more extreme options to be more popular.
This is why I prefer poll results over comments. Opinionated people may comment repeatedly, but they only get to vote once. People that prefer not to comment at all still vote. This is easily demonstrated by the number of votes vs the number of comments on this thread.
Sure, but you get people who'd also rather comment but not vote. Or most people who won't do either. Anyway, the point is the sample is highly biased and won't be representative of D&D players in general - which is why you're getting so many of the extremer opinions on it.
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Sure, but you get people who'd also rather comment but not vote. Or most people who won't do either. Anyway, the point is the sample is highly biased and won't be representative of D&D players in general - which is why you're getting so many of the extremer opinions on it.
Maybe next time I will make a poll about polls lol.
I play in homebrewed worlds mostly. I borrow snippets form several sources when it serves me and ignore it when it does not. So really, I only care about lore as far as it makes DMing easier.
Sure, but you get people who'd also rather comment but not vote. Or most people who won't do either. Anyway, the point is the sample is highly biased and won't be representative of D&D players in general - which is why you're getting so many of the extremer opinions on it.
Maybe next time I will make a poll about polls lol.
Then I'll get on your case about making polls about polls about pools!
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If you are running one of the official hardcover 5e Adventures, then so much YES it is important to have the official lore.
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"Orcs are savage raiders and pillagers with stooped postures, low foreheads, and piggish faces with prominent lower canines that resemble tusks." MM p245 (original printing) You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
"Don't care" is often an unfavorable impression for people who are taking the time to answer a poll about something they enjoy. They care. People will shift their answer above "don't care" if they're in the middle of the road.
Best would have been 5 options with only 100% important and 0% important as 1 and 5 with no description for 2 through 4 would likely give you the results you expected.
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I enjoy the lore because it gives me a sense for how the races/monsters/etc are supposed to be and feel and what fantasy they are trying to portray. I use it for when I want to keep that fantasy, but I will ignore it and make my own from time to time. The official lore is good for inspiration to me as well. So I do care about it, WotC's recent dumping of lore into the bin just feels like them being lazy and money grubby.
If you are running one of the official hardcover 5e Adventures, then so much YES it is important to have the official lore.
I disagree. Official adventures have a tendency to be fairly one-dimensional to the point of feeling flat. Adding a bit (and for some of them, like Icewind, a lot) of homebrew is going to make them vastly more palatable.
Or, in the alternative, you are transplanting the adventure book basically as written into another, larger campaign. Another perfect example of when one can both be running an official adventure, but toss the official lore out the window.
Having a well known world with lots of lore that everyone knows or can look up for themselves without me as a DM having to add 2h to session zero (while I explain all the lore I have changed and everything in the world works) is extremely important to me. It sets a basis for peoples expectations of the world and makes it a lot easier to explain only what you have changed rather than having to explain world lore entirely from scratch.
Also - If I'm running a long term homebrew campaign, then obviously I make the lore whatever I like and inform my players of such, but spending time making and explaining lots of lore changes when you're running a one shot or very short (2 to 5 session campaign) is just too much effort for me personally - that kind of stuff I like to put in a world everyone is already familiar with.
I would have liked to vote for 5 but went for 4 since it's obviously very possible to play a game without any of the 'cannon lore', new worlds are being made up all the time.
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Greyhawk for me, but I see your point. My only "demand" is that the lore is internally consistent. Clarifying: not the alignment stuff, but for example, now that Spelljammer is going to come out, that the Astral and Wyldspace travels from one world to another don't make holes in other lore/plot lines.
I have to say that I am a bit surprised at the numbers so far. I really expected 3 to be the most common with both 4 and 2 being in close running with each other. I didn't expect 1 to be as high as it is. Hopefully there will be more activity over the course of the next couple of days. It would be interesting to see if the current percentages shift much as more people vote.
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I’m a bit curious as to your reasoning behind your predictions. Most folks I meet fall in category 4 - they utilise some of the lore to provide a baseline that everyone at the table might have a passing familiarity with (pantheons, city names, etc.) then add their own spin, homebrew, and flair to the existing content, without fully tossing it out the window.
Because most folks I meet don't actually know any of the lore or have an interest in it beyond what the DM tells them. That lead me to believe that most people would fall somewhere in the middle.
That is also why anecdotal evidence is pretty much useless, thus the poll.
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I voted 4.
It was a hard choice between 3 and 4 for me. On the one hand I think it's somewhat important, on the other I can live with or without it.
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It's like that meme - 98.9% responded to a survey saying that they loved filling out surveys and 1.1% responded that they just throw them all in the bin.
People who come to this site to discuss D&D are going to be opinionated and outspoken about them. The more opinionated and outspoken of that group will be the more likely to be the ones responding to your poll, meaning your results will be biased towards the extreme. People who have a bit more nuance to their views and expressions, like mine, are less likely to respond at all, just as I haven't. I would expect the more extreme options to be more popular.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
This is why I prefer poll results over comments. Opinionated people may comment repeatedly, but they only get to vote once. People that prefer not to comment at all still vote. This is easily demonstrated by the number of votes vs the number of comments on this thread.
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Sure, but you get people who'd also rather comment but not vote. Or most people who won't do either. Anyway, the point is the sample is highly biased and won't be representative of D&D players in general - which is why you're getting so many of the extremer opinions on it.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
Maybe next time I will make a poll about polls lol.
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I play in homebrewed worlds mostly. I borrow snippets form several sources when it serves me and ignore it when it does not. So really, I only care about lore as far as it makes DMing easier.
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Then I'll get on your case about making polls about polls about pools!
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
If you are running one of the official hardcover 5e Adventures, then so much YES it is important to have the official lore.
"Orcs are savage raiders and pillagers with stooped postures, low foreheads, and piggish faces with prominent lower canines that resemble tusks." MM p245 (original printing)
You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
The presentation of the options skew the results.
"Don't care" is often an unfavorable impression for people who are taking the time to answer a poll about something they enjoy. They care. People will shift their answer above "don't care" if they're in the middle of the road.
Best would have been 5 options with only 100% important and 0% important as 1 and 5 with no description for 2 through 4 would likely give you the results you expected.
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
I chose 4.
I enjoy the lore because it gives me a sense for how the races/monsters/etc are supposed to be and feel and what fantasy they are trying to portray. I use it for when I want to keep that fantasy, but I will ignore it and make my own from time to time. The official lore is good for inspiration to me as well. So I do care about it, WotC's recent dumping of lore into the bin just feels like them being lazy and money grubby.
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I disagree. Official adventures have a tendency to be fairly one-dimensional to the point of feeling flat. Adding a bit (and for some of them, like Icewind, a lot) of homebrew is going to make them vastly more palatable.
Or, in the alternative, you are transplanting the adventure book basically as written into another, larger campaign. Another perfect example of when one can both be running an official adventure, but toss the official lore out the window.
I picked 4. It’s nice to have something to go off of rather than making everything up whole cloth, but I’ll poke and prod at it as much as I please.
Same; number 4.
It's nice not to start from zero at times, but I personally don't feel beholden to anything as "the one and only rule".
Having a well known world with lots of lore that everyone knows or can look up for themselves without me as a DM having to add 2h to session zero (while I explain all the lore I have changed and everything in the world works) is extremely important to me. It sets a basis for peoples expectations of the world and makes it a lot easier to explain only what you have changed rather than having to explain world lore entirely from scratch.
Also - If I'm running a long term homebrew campaign, then obviously I make the lore whatever I like and inform my players of such, but spending time making and explaining lots of lore changes when you're running a one shot or very short (2 to 5 session campaign) is just too much effort for me personally - that kind of stuff I like to put in a world everyone is already familiar with.
I would have liked to vote for 5 but went for 4 since it's obviously very possible to play a game without any of the 'cannon lore', new worlds are being made up all the time.