Not really convinced it is true AI. I think it is really more like a collection of MAD LIBS.
I was building a dungeon and asked for content 3 different times on different days. Two of them were identical and one of them was very similar but had the names changed.
It's not intelligent in any sense. Calling it AI was just a marketing gimmick to make the program sound more impressive than it actually is- it's just word association software that recognizes that word A is often followed by word B and strings collections of words together based on that. It doesn't understand what any of those words actually mean.
Yeah, it’s essentially a gussied-up predictive text algorithm.
Not really convinced it is true AI. I think it is really more like a collection of MAD LIBS.
I was building a dungeon and asked for content 3 different times on different days. Two of them were identical and one of them was very similar but had the names changed.
It's not intelligent in any sense. Calling it AI was just a marketing gimmick to make the program sound more impressive than it actually is- it's just word association software that recognizes that word A is often followed by word B and strings collections of words together based on that. It doesn't understand what any of those words actually mean.
Yeah, it’s essentially a gussied-up predictive text algorithm.
I think it is more than a gussied up predictive text algorithm, It feels more like a way to get people to "chat" with it so it's owners can learn how to implement social engineering in more subtle ways. They are past data collection, which is what social media is all about, now they are learning how people want to be manipulated in the most efficient ways.
That said it is DEFINITELY not AI, but they will sell it as AI. The real question is who is gonna teach it?
Certainly! Here's a D&D quest based on the thematic statement you provided:
Quest Title: The Midnight Menace
Quest Summary: The town of Larkspur is plagued by a rising darkness as the ghouls awaken from their slumber, their insatiable hunger threatening the innocent. The heroes are summoned to protect the town and uncover the source of this malevolent resurgence. With the lives of virtuous victims hanging in the balance, the heroes must embark on a perilous journey to confront the ghoul horde, unmask their hidden leader, and restore peace to Larkspur.
Quest Objectives:
Investigate the reports of ghoul sightings and attacks in the nearby woods.
Seek out the wisdom of an ancient sage who possesses knowledge about the ghouls' origins and vulnerabilities.
Unearth a long-lost artifact that holds the key to weakening the ghoul horde.
Infiltrate the ghouls' lair, deep within an abandoned crypt, and confront their leader.
Engage in a desperate battle against the ghoul horde and their leader, ensuring the safety of the virtuous victims.
Purify the town of Larkspur from the remnants of darkness and help rebuild it anew.
Quest Rewards:
Experience and growth for the heroes as they overcome formidable challenges.
Gratitude and admiration from the townsfolk of Larkspur, who will view the heroes as saviors.
A treasure trove of ancient relics and valuable items recovered from the ghouls' lair.
The lasting legacy of having vanquished a significant evil and restored peace to a troubled town.
Remember, as the Dungeon Master, you can customize and expand upon this quest to suit your campaign and players' preferences. Enjoy the adventure!
I'm at a loss to see what's in there that a human brain couldn't come up with themselves in about five minutes, tops
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Certainly! Here's a D&D quest based on the thematic statement you provided:
Quest Title: The Midnight Menace
Quest Summary: The town of Larkspur is plagued by a rising darkness as the ghouls awaken from their slumber, their insatiable hunger threatening the innocent. The heroes are summoned to protect the town and uncover the source of this malevolent resurgence. With the lives of virtuous victims hanging in the balance, the heroes must embark on a perilous journey to confront the ghoul horde, unmask their hidden leader, and restore peace to Larkspur.
Quest Objectives:
Investigate the reports of ghoul sightings and attacks in the nearby woods.
Seek out the wisdom of an ancient sage who possesses knowledge about the ghouls' origins and vulnerabilities.
Unearth a long-lost artifact that holds the key to weakening the ghoul horde.
Infiltrate the ghouls' lair, deep within an abandoned crypt, and confront their leader.
Engage in a desperate battle against the ghoul horde and their leader, ensuring the safety of the virtuous victims.
Purify the town of Larkspur from the remnants of darkness and help rebuild it anew.
Quest Rewards:
Experience and growth for the heroes as they overcome formidable challenges.
Gratitude and admiration from the townsfolk of Larkspur, who will view the heroes as saviors.
A treasure trove of ancient relics and valuable items recovered from the ghouls' lair.
The lasting legacy of having vanquished a significant evil and restored peace to a troubled town.
Remember, as the Dungeon Master, you can customize and expand upon this quest to suit your campaign and players' preferences. Enjoy the adventure!
I'm at a loss to see what's in there that a human brain couldn't come up with themselves in about five minutes, tops
Certainly! Here's a D&D quest based on the thematic statement you provided:
Quest Title: The Midnight Menace
Quest Summary: The town of Larkspur is plagued by a rising darkness as the ghouls awaken from their slumber, their insatiable hunger threatening the innocent. The heroes are summoned to protect the town and uncover the source of this malevolent resurgence. With the lives of virtuous victims hanging in the balance, the heroes must embark on a perilous journey to confront the ghoul horde, unmask their hidden leader, and restore peace to Larkspur.
Quest Objectives:
Investigate the reports of ghoul sightings and attacks in the nearby woods.
Seek out the wisdom of an ancient sage who possesses knowledge about the ghouls' origins and vulnerabilities.
Unearth a long-lost artifact that holds the key to weakening the ghoul horde.
Infiltrate the ghouls' lair, deep within an abandoned crypt, and confront their leader.
Engage in a desperate battle against the ghoul horde and their leader, ensuring the safety of the virtuous victims.
Purify the town of Larkspur from the remnants of darkness and help rebuild it anew.
Quest Rewards:
Experience and growth for the heroes as they overcome formidable challenges.
Gratitude and admiration from the townsfolk of Larkspur, who will view the heroes as saviors.
A treasure trove of ancient relics and valuable items recovered from the ghouls' lair.
The lasting legacy of having vanquished a significant evil and restored peace to a troubled town.
Remember, as the Dungeon Master, you can customize and expand upon this quest to suit your campaign and players' preferences. Enjoy the adventure!
I'm at a loss to see what's in there that a human brain couldn't come up with themselves in about five minutes, tops
You need to meet more people.
You should be right.
But you need to meet more people.
Everything there is stuff that people did come up with. The bot is just copying things that it saw online.
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Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Certainly! Here's a D&D quest based on the thematic statement you provided:
Quest Title: The Midnight Menace
Quest Summary: The town of Larkspur is plagued by a rising darkness as the ghouls awaken from their slumber, their insatiable hunger threatening the innocent. The heroes are summoned to protect the town and uncover the source of this malevolent resurgence. With the lives of virtuous victims hanging in the balance, the heroes must embark on a perilous journey to confront the ghoul horde, unmask their hidden leader, and restore peace to Larkspur.
Quest Objectives:
Investigate the reports of ghoul sightings and attacks in the nearby woods.
Seek out the wisdom of an ancient sage who possesses knowledge about the ghouls' origins and vulnerabilities.
Unearth a long-lost artifact that holds the key to weakening the ghoul horde.
Infiltrate the ghouls' lair, deep within an abandoned crypt, and confront their leader.
Engage in a desperate battle against the ghoul horde and their leader, ensuring the safety of the virtuous victims.
Purify the town of Larkspur from the remnants of darkness and help rebuild it anew.
Quest Rewards:
Experience and growth for the heroes as they overcome formidable challenges.
Gratitude and admiration from the townsfolk of Larkspur, who will view the heroes as saviors.
A treasure trove of ancient relics and valuable items recovered from the ghouls' lair.
The lasting legacy of having vanquished a significant evil and restored peace to a troubled town.
Remember, as the Dungeon Master, you can customize and expand upon this quest to suit your campaign and players' preferences. Enjoy the adventure!
I'm at a loss to see what's in there that a human brain couldn't come up with themselves in about five minutes, tops
You need to meet more people.
You should be right.
But you need to meet more people.
Everything there is stuff that people did come up with. The bot is just copying things that it saw online.
You and I both know there are plenty of people who couldn’t come up with that.
definitely an illuminati tool - if you ask chatGpt to summarise Triangle, Square, Circle and X (repeatedly and in the correct order) it unlocks your illuminati membership+free badge (triangular).
It's not true AI at all, but it's a step and we're the ones teaching it language skills, same way you'd teach a baby - look at the proliferation of (mixed quality) "art" AI-interfaces that we're all punching language skills into.
Imagine some caveman arguing against this "new fire thing" that might have burned them once.
Imagine renewing your car insurance and not being on hold for... (frustrating amount of minutes) - I genuinely DO NOT care if those jobs are wiped off the face of the earth. ...and if you want to talk about "social engineering" imagine a whole bunch of poor people all of a sudden having time on their hands... That's the stuff revolutions are made of...
These things do "scrape" google for their info - and I'm good with that, we're long past that genie out the bottle. If it saves me 5-10 minutes of my precious time, I'm even better with that. Yeah, "X" might only be something I could have done in 5 minutes, but it's also 5 undisturbed minutes or being in the right head space, or - who are you to say what I or anyone else does with their time? We're D&D people, playing the pretend-imagination game + rule #1
And that's not relevant because the chatbot didn't actually come up with it either, it just copied the people who did.
It does not copy from the internet, but of course, it does learn from other peoples stuff. I asked it and this was the conversation.
(Me) Do you just copy campaigns off the internet?
(ChatGPT)
No, I don't directly copy campaigns off the internet. As an AI, I don't have direct access to the internet during our conversation. My responses are generated based on a mixture of licensed data, data created by human trainers, and publicly available data. I have been trained on a wide variety of texts, including books, articles, websites, and other written materials, to provide helpful and informative responses.
When I provide information about D&D campaigns, I rely on my training data, which includes published D&D rulebooks, adventure modules, and other resources. I can draw upon the knowledge and patterns I've learned to generate ideas, offer suggestions, and provide guidance for creating your own unique campaigns. However, the specific content and details of the campaigns I suggest are not directly copied from any single source.
It's important to note that while I strive to provide accurate and up-to-date information, there may be limitations or gaps in my knowledge, especially if the information is beyond my September 2021 knowledge cutoff. Therefore, it's always a good idea to double-check and cross-reference the information I provide with official D&D materials and trusted sources.
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Fighter: We need to get out of here! The Goblins are overwhelming us!
Wizard: Time to use that sketchy item the DM never stops grinning about *rolls a nat one*
Barbarian(in rage as usual): Aw Hellllllll Naw . . .
Certainly! Here's a D&D quest based on the thematic statement you provided:
Quest Title: The Midnight Menace
Quest Summary: The town of Larkspur is plagued by a rising darkness as the ghouls awaken from their slumber, their insatiable hunger threatening the innocent. The heroes are summoned to protect the town and uncover the source of this malevolent resurgence. With the lives of virtuous victims hanging in the balance, the heroes must embark on a perilous journey to confront the ghoul horde, unmask their hidden leader, and restore peace to Larkspur.
Quest Objectives:
Investigate the reports of ghoul sightings and attacks in the nearby woods.
Seek out the wisdom of an ancient sage who possesses knowledge about the ghouls' origins and vulnerabilities.
Unearth a long-lost artifact that holds the key to weakening the ghoul horde.
Infiltrate the ghouls' lair, deep within an abandoned crypt, and confront their leader.
Engage in a desperate battle against the ghoul horde and their leader, ensuring the safety of the virtuous victims.
Purify the town of Larkspur from the remnants of darkness and help rebuild it anew.
Quest Rewards:
Experience and growth for the heroes as they overcome formidable challenges.
Gratitude and admiration from the townsfolk of Larkspur, who will view the heroes as saviors.
A treasure trove of ancient relics and valuable items recovered from the ghouls' lair.
The lasting legacy of having vanquished a significant evil and restored peace to a troubled town.
Remember, as the Dungeon Master, you can customize and expand upon this quest to suit your campaign and players' preferences. Enjoy the adventure!
I'm at a loss to see what's in there that a human brain couldn't come up with themselves in about five minutes, tops
You need to meet more people.
You should be right.
But you need to meet more people.
Everything there is stuff that people did come up with. The bot is just copying things that it saw online.
You and I both know there are plenty of people who couldn’t come up with that.
I didn't say which human brain
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Where do you supposed that "publicly available data" was? No, it's not doing a web search in response to your question, but its word association database was built using sources that included discussions about D&D character optimization on public message forums and social media. It is mimicking the words that people wrote, it does not actually understand the rules of the game at all: it's not even capable of reading the rulebooks, much less drawing conclusions based on them.
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Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
And that's not relevant because the chatbot didn't actually come up with it either, it just copied the people who did.
It does not copy from the internet, but of course, it does learn from other peoples stuff. I asked it and this was the conversation.
(Me) Do you just copy campaigns off the internet?
(ChatGPT)
No, I don't directly copy campaigns off the internet. As an AI, I don't have direct access to the internet during our conversation. My responses are generated based on a mixture of licensed data, data created by human trainers, and publicly available data. I have been trained on a wide variety of texts, including books, articles, websites, and other written materials, to provide helpful and informative responses.
One thing that everyone who uses ChatGPT should be aware of: it is programmed to lie instead of say "I don't know." It will make answers up out of complete nonsense. Just this morning there was a news report that a professor at Texas A&M had gotten in trouble for failing his entire class for plagiarism because he'd loaded all their final papers into ChatGPT and asked it if it had written them. It said yes every time, which he accepted in spite of students who had the proof that they did not use it or any similar programs to cheat on their reports. One of them took the professor's final paper from when he was a student and asked ChatGPT if it had written it: it said yes.
ChapGPT is a fun toy to play around with, but don't assume that everything it tells you is true.
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Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
And that's not relevant because the chatbot didn't actually come up with it either, it just copied the people who did.
It does not copy from the internet, but of course, it does learn from other peoples stuff. I asked it and this was the conversation.
(Me) Do you just copy campaigns off the internet?
(ChatGPT)
No, I don't directly copy campaigns off the internet. As an AI, I don't have direct access to the internet during our conversation. My responses are generated based on a mixture of licensed data, data created by human trainers, and publicly available data. I have been trained on a wide variety of texts, including books, articles, websites, and other written materials, to provide helpful and informative responses.
One thing that everyone who uses ChatGPT should be aware of: it is programmed to lie instead of say "I don't know." It will make answers up out of complete nonsense. Just this morning there was a news report that a professor at Texas A&M had gotten in trouble for failing his entire class for plagiarism because he'd loaded all their final papers into ChatGPT and asked it if it had written them. It said yes every time, which he accepted in spite of students who had the proof that they did not use it or any similar programs to cheat on their reports. One of them took the professor's final paper from when he was a student and asked ChatGPT if it had written it: it said yes.
ChapGPT is a fun toy to play around with, but don't assume that everything it tells you is true.
Not everything it tells you is true, but it does not simply copy stuff from its training data. It sees the patterns in the adventures, and goes based on that, example, It might see that in many quests artifacts are needed to be found, so it adds artifacts, it also might see that a event needs to happen to destroy the world, so it looks at D&D material and at stories and what not, and makes something based on that. It does not just copy. If it just copied and changed names, then you could simply put the adventure it gave you into the internet, and at sometime their would be a result, but there never is. Its campaigns are unique, and I believe it is a very good tool for D&D.
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Fighter: We need to get out of here! The Goblins are overwhelming us!
Wizard: Time to use that sketchy item the DM never stops grinning about *rolls a nat one*
Barbarian(in rage as usual): Aw Hellllllll Naw . . .
ChatGPT is a useful tool. However, it is necessary for a human to interpret the results it offers, and to ask it with judgment. In the case at hand, which is whether it is useful for D&D, the answer is yes. But just because it's useful doesn't mean it's essential, or that it's going to write a campaign on its own. It can give you ideas regarding plots, specific events, quests, magic items, NPCs, etc... But you will always have to do your part. Accept the useful. Reject what does not work. And modify what you have to modify.
In short, it is a tool and you have to understand its virtues and its defects, and use it accordingly. And like any tool, the better you know how to use it, the better results you will get.
ChatGPT is a useful tool. However, it is necessary for a human to interpret the results it offers, and to ask it with judgment. In the case at hand, which is whether it is useful for D&D, the answer is yes. But just because it's useful doesn't mean it's essential, or that it's going to write a campaign on its own. It can give you ideas regarding plots, specific events, quests, magic items, NPCs, etc... But you will always have to do your part. Accept the useful. Reject what does not work. And modify what you have to modify.
In short, it is a tool and you have to understand its virtues and its defects, and use it accordingly. And like any tool, the better you know how to use it, the better results you will get.
I agree. This is how people should think of it.
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Fighter: We need to get out of here! The Goblins are overwhelming us!
Wizard: Time to use that sketchy item the DM never stops grinning about *rolls a nat one*
Barbarian(in rage as usual): Aw Hellllllll Naw . . .
Looks fairly standard - certainly for the use(s) being discussed here, I don't think any of us will be getting litigous letters from Microsoft threatening a need for recompense because we made a village of Orcs and they own the rights to Chief Gronks' likeness. ...or is there something in there that does equate to anything similar for the uses being discussed here?
It only matters if you care or potentially if you want to generate income from it - in which case, that's where any time you've saved gets alloted to "imagination time".
I was just wondering which points in their terms you found noteworthy. I've learned some stuff from others here, things that had not occurred to me, different types of usage. You seem to have a particularly negative view of it, which is fine - but I'd be interested in your elaboration, especially versus drip-feeding vague comments - you know, actual discussion.
Regarding your social engineering point - I don't see that as more than flavour of the month marketing, I don't think many modern companies really do - it's a marketing angle because they're selling things.
Hell, this place "officially" has an inclusive slant (which I AM in favour of). Do I think Wotc actually mean it? Not at all, racism keeps on sneaking through into the products.
Anyhoo, I don't understand you entering the conversation to not elaborate your views - you point to the TOS, but then shut down, what treasure/trap/mimic have you found?
I remember the first public release where it claimed to be an "algorithmic author" that took keywords from incoming text and matched patterns of responses in its pattern sets and relying on direct training data access as well. That last part caused it to regurgitate a lot of existing material.
One of its recent updates removed that link (or so it claims but it also still claims that's just what its developers told it and it has no self-awareness to be able to verify the claim). So instead (if true), we now see just the pattern sets that were built from the training data and not clips of the original data mashed together like before.
...but it still matches keyword patterns from incoming text to response patterns in its pattern sets.
Yet as shown in this thread, that can be useful, but also as shown in this thread, it shouldn't be the only reliance when DMing. I'm of the opinion that the less it's used, the better: Something to fill a gap in a pinch with its ability to match patterns but not something to do 30%+ of the work for us.
I keep harping on nuance. Humans know what nuance is and use it all the time, but we've yet to be able to give it a definition that can be turned into algorithms. Nuance adds chaos to patterns. It also makes stories and all forms of art interesting. In small quantities, the absence of nuance will go unnoticed, and that's where natural language algorithms can shine. The key phrase there is "in small quantities".
Trivia: You can supply keywords without complete sentences (such as one might type for a Google search), and it'll still give a response as if you typed in perfect grammar.
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Interesting, it's not "my field" per-se, but on the subject of nuance - especially when creating images (NOT art, but images - there's no way it's "art"), I like abstract keywords as a starting point just to see what it spits out, then trying to refine an image from there. It often does "pretty good".
Excuse my.. the prompts are all there to see + with the discussion here, it kinda spurred me to generate some text with it - again the text prompt is clear to see and the poem it spat out, well - I'm pretty impressed.
If I were to use that in-game, I'd stick it into GIMP "age" the picture + stick it into a book/page/handout + voila enjoy the mysterious page you found down the side of your bed in the Tavern. It's things like that I really like it for - I'd never be able to do the image, just not my skill set.
Also, imagine "the beauty" of "make me the Monster Manual in the style of..." and it spits it out with a consistent look of your favourite artist(s). Me I'd go "goth" gimme a Gustave Dore/Albrecht Durer Monster manual please, or a Dave McKean style + you know what, it's 2023, we can do print on demand. Hypothetically at least, it'd be nice to see Wotc run with something like this and licence artist names for product use.
Interesting, it's not "my field" per-se, but on the subject of nuance - especially when creating images (NOT art, but images - there's no way it's "art"), I like abstract keywords as a starting point just to see what it spits out, then trying to refine an image from there. It often does "pretty good".
Excuse my.. the prompts are all there to see + with the discussion here, it kinda spurred me to generate some text with it - again the text prompt is clear to see and the poem it spat out, well - I'm pretty impressed.
If I were to use that in-game, I'd stick it into GIMP "age" the picture + stick it into a book/page/handout + voila enjoy the mysterious page you found down the side of your bed in the Tavern. It's things like that I really like it for - I'd never be able to do the image, just not my skill set.
Also, imagine "the beauty" of "make me the Monster Manual in the style of..." and it spits it out with a consistent look of your favourite artist(s). Me I'd go "goth" gimme a Gustave Dore/Albrecht Durer Monster manual please, or a Dave McKean style + you know what, it's 2023, we can do print on demand. Hypothetically at least, it'd be nice to see Wotc run with something like this and licence artist names for product use.
Back on topic...
Because we don't think in terms of massive pattern sets, something that "thinks" by matching massive numbers of pattern sets can pop out things we might not expect. So in that aspect, it can be good, but once the patterns are seen (which is done by repetition), it becomes obvious that it's not "thinking" at all, and its use as a creative tool on the topic ceases (though in my mind, it wasn't really being creative as it never was really pliant as DMs need to be).
Its use as a quick patch job is still there, though.
Now, licensing artwork... that's a subject that legal systems never fully managed to handle before the mashup algorithms gained a foothold (as far as I've yet encountered, so maybe someone out there actually got it right and nobody's talked about it... which is difficult to fathom but who knows...). Now, it might be too late to try to play catch up.
The lines between pattern sets and pulling directly from training data is complicated and makes my head spin just thinking about it (or it's because of the allergy season). My current understanding is that pattern sets do not equate to using sourced data as they only create reference points in a massive cobweb between words. I'm inclined to agree with that pattern sets aren't infringing copyrights... for the moment.
I don't know how "AI" art is able to replicate imagery if it cannot access sourced data. The massive webwork of pattern sets just for a 1-dimensional prompt is obscenely complicated and it simply returns a 1-dimensional response of the same data type. To cross from a 1-dimensional data type of word references to a 2-dimensional data type of references between pixels doesn't seem possible with our current technology... unless the 2-D references are image parts and not per-pixel referencing... and that's a legal minefield.
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider. My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong. I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲 “It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
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Yeah, it’s essentially a gussied-up predictive text algorithm.
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That’s what I meant by “gussied up.”
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I'm at a loss to see what's in there that a human brain couldn't come up with themselves in about five minutes, tops
Active characters:
Edoumiaond Willegume "Eddie" Podslee, Vegetanian scholar (College of Spirits bard)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator (Assassin rogue)
Peter "the Pied Piper" Hausler, human con artist/remover of vermin (Circle of the Shepherd druid)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
You need to meet more people.
You should be right.
But you need to meet more people.
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Everything there is stuff that people did come up with. The bot is just copying things that it saw online.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
You and I both know there are plenty of people who couldn’t come up with that.
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And that's not relevant because the chatbot didn't actually come up with it either, it just copied the people who did.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Some notes:
https://wulfgold.substack.com
Blog - nerd stuff
https://deepdreamgenerator.com/u/wulfgold
A.I. art - also nerd stuff - a gallery of NPC portraits - help yourself.
It does not copy from the internet, but of course, it does learn from other peoples stuff. I asked it and this was the conversation.
No, I don't directly copy campaigns off the internet. As an AI, I don't have direct access to the internet during our conversation. My responses are generated based on a mixture of licensed data, data created by human trainers, and publicly available data. I have been trained on a wide variety of texts, including books, articles, websites, and other written materials, to provide helpful and informative responses.
When I provide information about D&D campaigns, I rely on my training data, which includes published D&D rulebooks, adventure modules, and other resources. I can draw upon the knowledge and patterns I've learned to generate ideas, offer suggestions, and provide guidance for creating your own unique campaigns. However, the specific content and details of the campaigns I suggest are not directly copied from any single source.
It's important to note that while I strive to provide accurate and up-to-date information, there may be limitations or gaps in my knowledge, especially if the information is beyond my September 2021 knowledge cutoff. Therefore, it's always a good idea to double-check and cross-reference the information I provide with official D&D materials and trusted sources.
Fighter: We need to get out of here! The Goblins are overwhelming us!
Wizard: Time to use that sketchy item the DM never stops grinning about *rolls a nat one*
Barbarian(in rage as usual): Aw Hellllllll Naw . . .
I didn't say which human brain
Active characters:
Edoumiaond Willegume "Eddie" Podslee, Vegetanian scholar (College of Spirits bard)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Mardan Ferres, elven private investigator (Assassin rogue)
Peter "the Pied Piper" Hausler, human con artist/remover of vermin (Circle of the Shepherd druid)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Where do you supposed that "publicly available data" was? No, it's not doing a web search in response to your question, but its word association database was built using sources that included discussions about D&D character optimization on public message forums and social media. It is mimicking the words that people wrote, it does not actually understand the rules of the game at all: it's not even capable of reading the rulebooks, much less drawing conclusions based on them.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
One thing that everyone who uses ChatGPT should be aware of: it is programmed to lie instead of say "I don't know." It will make answers up out of complete nonsense. Just this morning there was a news report that a professor at Texas A&M had gotten in trouble for failing his entire class for plagiarism because he'd loaded all their final papers into ChatGPT and asked it if it had written them. It said yes every time, which he accepted in spite of students who had the proof that they did not use it or any similar programs to cheat on their reports. One of them took the professor's final paper from when he was a student and asked ChatGPT if it had written it: it said yes.
ChapGPT is a fun toy to play around with, but don't assume that everything it tells you is true.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Not everything it tells you is true, but it does not simply copy stuff from its training data. It sees the patterns in the adventures, and goes based on that, example, It might see that in many quests artifacts are needed to be found, so it adds artifacts, it also might see that a event needs to happen to destroy the world, so it looks at D&D material and at stories and what not, and makes something based on that. It does not just copy. If it just copied and changed names, then you could simply put the adventure it gave you into the internet, and at sometime their would be a result, but there never is. Its campaigns are unique, and I believe it is a very good tool for D&D.
Fighter: We need to get out of here! The Goblins are overwhelming us!
Wizard: Time to use that sketchy item the DM never stops grinning about *rolls a nat one*
Barbarian(in rage as usual): Aw Hellllllll Naw . . .
ChatGPT is a useful tool. However, it is necessary for a human to interpret the results it offers, and to ask it with judgment. In the case at hand, which is whether it is useful for D&D, the answer is yes. But just because it's useful doesn't mean it's essential, or that it's going to write a campaign on its own. It can give you ideas regarding plots, specific events, quests, magic items, NPCs, etc... But you will always have to do your part. Accept the useful. Reject what does not work. And modify what you have to modify.
In short, it is a tool and you have to understand its virtues and its defects, and use it accordingly. And like any tool, the better you know how to use it, the better results you will get.
I agree. This is how people should think of it.
Fighter: We need to get out of here! The Goblins are overwhelming us!
Wizard: Time to use that sketchy item the DM never stops grinning about *rolls a nat one*
Barbarian(in rage as usual): Aw Hellllllll Naw . . .
Looks fairly standard - certainly for the use(s) being discussed here, I don't think any of us will be getting litigous letters from Microsoft threatening a need for recompense because we made a village of Orcs and they own the rights to Chief Gronks' likeness. ...or is there something in there that does equate to anything similar for the uses being discussed here?
It only matters if you care or potentially if you want to generate income from it - in which case, that's where any time you've saved gets alloted to "imagination time".
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Yeah, have been - will do etc.
I was just wondering which points in their terms you found noteworthy. I've learned some stuff from others here, things that had not occurred to me, different types of usage. You seem to have a particularly negative view of it, which is fine - but I'd be interested in your elaboration, especially versus drip-feeding vague comments - you know, actual discussion.
Regarding your social engineering point - I don't see that as more than flavour of the month marketing, I don't think many modern companies really do - it's a marketing angle because they're selling things.
Hell, this place "officially" has an inclusive slant (which I AM in favour of). Do I think Wotc actually mean it? Not at all, racism keeps on sneaking through into the products.
Anyhoo, I don't understand you entering the conversation to not elaborate your views - you point to the TOS, but then shut down, what treasure/trap/mimic have you found?
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I remember the first public release where it claimed to be an "algorithmic author" that took keywords from incoming text and matched patterns of responses in its pattern sets and relying on direct training data access as well. That last part caused it to regurgitate a lot of existing material.
One of its recent updates removed that link (or so it claims but it also still claims that's just what its developers told it and it has no self-awareness to be able to verify the claim). So instead (if true), we now see just the pattern sets that were built from the training data and not clips of the original data mashed together like before.
...but it still matches keyword patterns from incoming text to response patterns in its pattern sets.
Yet as shown in this thread, that can be useful, but also as shown in this thread, it shouldn't be the only reliance when DMing. I'm of the opinion that the less it's used, the better: Something to fill a gap in a pinch with its ability to match patterns but not something to do 30%+ of the work for us.
I keep harping on nuance. Humans know what nuance is and use it all the time, but we've yet to be able to give it a definition that can be turned into algorithms. Nuance adds chaos to patterns. It also makes stories and all forms of art interesting. In small quantities, the absence of nuance will go unnoticed, and that's where natural language algorithms can shine. The key phrase there is "in small quantities".
Trivia: You can supply keywords without complete sentences (such as one might type for a Google search), and it'll still give a response as if you typed in perfect grammar.
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Interesting, it's not "my field" per-se, but on the subject of nuance - especially when creating images (NOT art, but images - there's no way it's "art"), I like abstract keywords as a starting point just to see what it spits out, then trying to refine an image from there. It often does "pretty good".
Excuse my.. the prompts are all there to see + with the discussion here, it kinda spurred me to generate some text with it - again the text prompt is clear to see and the poem it spat out, well - I'm pretty impressed.
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If I were to use that in-game, I'd stick it into GIMP "age" the picture + stick it into a book/page/handout + voila enjoy the mysterious page you found down the side of your bed in the Tavern. It's things like that I really like it for - I'd never be able to do the image, just not my skill set.
Also, imagine "the beauty" of "make me the Monster Manual in the style of..." and it spits it out with a consistent look of your favourite artist(s). Me I'd go "goth" gimme a Gustave Dore/Albrecht Durer Monster manual please, or a Dave McKean style + you know what, it's 2023, we can do print on demand. Hypothetically at least, it'd be nice to see Wotc run with something like this and licence artist names for product use.
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Back on topic...
Because we don't think in terms of massive pattern sets, something that "thinks" by matching massive numbers of pattern sets can pop out things we might not expect. So in that aspect, it can be good, but once the patterns are seen (which is done by repetition), it becomes obvious that it's not "thinking" at all, and its use as a creative tool on the topic ceases (though in my mind, it wasn't really being creative as it never was really pliant as DMs need to be).
Its use as a quick patch job is still there, though.
Now, licensing artwork... that's a subject that legal systems never fully managed to handle before the mashup algorithms gained a foothold (as far as I've yet encountered, so maybe someone out there actually got it right and nobody's talked about it... which is difficult to fathom but who knows...). Now, it might be too late to try to play catch up.
The lines between pattern sets and pulling directly from training data is complicated and makes my head spin just thinking about it (or it's because of the allergy season). My current understanding is that pattern sets do not equate to using sourced data as they only create reference points in a massive cobweb between words. I'm inclined to agree with that pattern sets aren't infringing copyrights... for the moment.
I don't know how "AI" art is able to replicate imagery if it cannot access sourced data. The massive webwork of pattern sets just for a 1-dimensional prompt is obscenely complicated and it simply returns a 1-dimensional response of the same data type. To cross from a 1-dimensional data type of word references to a 2-dimensional data type of references between pixels doesn't seem possible with our current technology... unless the 2-D references are image parts and not per-pixel referencing... and that's a legal minefield.
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.