I'm starting a new character and I'm trying to think ahead to where I want him to be around level 8. I don't know where we'll be starting out the campaign, but somewhere between level 3-5. I like the idea of this Gloomstalking Assassin Twilight mix, but I don't know if it's stupid to lose out on the high level stuff by multiclassing so much. I've almost never multiclassed so I can get up to the capstone abilities, but there's some good synergies with this build I think. Especially since even though we are playing 2014 rules, my DM is allowing the Weapon Mastery features. I originally was thinking of using short sword and dagger to do the nick/vex combo to get advantage/sneak attack. Any thoughts on this is welcome.
I won’t call it stupid or dumb, but it’s likely to be pretty clunky and unwieldy, particularly if you’re starting in the 3-5 range. What exactly do you expect to come together from all 3 subclasses?
Gloomstalker Ranger/Assassin Rogue is a classic combination, but I'm not sure what you're getting out of twilight cleric. I assume this is 2014 rules, since in 2024 it's not actually possible to have that combination before level 9.
I guess the things I liked were Dread Ambusher, Twilight Sanctuary, Assassinate, and the Nick/Vex combinations. I would think there would be more chances for advantage, high initiative, and sneak attacks.
Sneak Attack doesn’t need multiclass dips to enable it, particularly if you’re using a Vex weapon. And Twilight Sanctuary doesn’t synergize well with the rest. Personally I’d suggest just sticking with a Gloomstalker/Assassin multiclass; you’re starting at a fairly low level so you’ll already either be splitting your class features sharply or have one class slowly coming online. Trying to throw a third into the mix is more likely to bog down the character further as you try to level into everything and build up character strengths. Ultimately it’s up to you though.
Honestly, Twilight Sanctuary is pretty antithetical to the Gloomstalker, Assassin and Rogue aspects of the character. Those three need darkness to work at their best, and Twilight Sanctuary gets rid of it.
You can do it...but I'd say this is one of those MC builds that gives you more weaker options rather than doubling down on the strengths, which results in a weaker character. Not end of the world...but it's a bit unfocused.
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Twilight Cleric's 300 feet of darkvision would be a cool feature for the build I think you're going for, but other than that I don't think it brings much to the table and 3 levels to grab that subclass is a high price to pay for 300 feet of darkvision and/or twilight sanctuary. (Plus, how often does the need for that much darkvision come up, where standard 60' wouldn't accomplish what you need?)
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I'm starting a new character and I'm trying to think ahead to where I want him to be around level 8. I don't know where we'll be starting out the campaign, but somewhere between level 3-5. I like the idea of this Gloomstalking Assassin Twilight mix, but I don't know if it's stupid to lose out on the high level stuff by multiclassing so much. I've almost never multiclassed so I can get up to the capstone abilities, but there's some good synergies with this build I think. Especially since even though we are playing 2014 rules, my DM is allowing the Weapon Mastery features. I originally was thinking of using short sword and dagger to do the nick/vex combo to get advantage/sneak attack. Any thoughts on this is welcome.
I won’t call it stupid or dumb, but it’s likely to be pretty clunky and unwieldy, particularly if you’re starting in the 3-5 range. What exactly do you expect to come together from all 3 subclasses?
Gloomstalker Ranger/Assassin Rogue is a classic combination, but I'm not sure what you're getting out of twilight cleric. I assume this is 2014 rules, since in 2024 it's not actually possible to have that combination before level 9.
I guess the things I liked were Dread Ambusher, Twilight Sanctuary, Assassinate, and the Nick/Vex combinations. I would think there would be more chances for advantage, high initiative, and sneak attacks.
Sneak Attack doesn’t need multiclass dips to enable it, particularly if you’re using a Vex weapon. And Twilight Sanctuary doesn’t synergize well with the rest. Personally I’d suggest just sticking with a Gloomstalker/Assassin multiclass; you’re starting at a fairly low level so you’ll already either be splitting your class features sharply or have one class slowly coming online. Trying to throw a third into the mix is more likely to bog down the character further as you try to level into everything and build up character strengths. Ultimately it’s up to you though.
Honestly, Twilight Sanctuary is pretty antithetical to the Gloomstalker, Assassin and Rogue aspects of the character. Those three need darkness to work at their best, and Twilight Sanctuary gets rid of it.
You can do it...but I'd say this is one of those MC builds that gives you more weaker options rather than doubling down on the strengths, which results in a weaker character. Not end of the world...but it's a bit unfocused.
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Twilight Cleric's 300 feet of darkvision would be a cool feature for the build I think you're going for, but other than that I don't think it brings much to the table and 3 levels to grab that subclass is a high price to pay for 300 feet of darkvision and/or twilight sanctuary. (Plus, how often does the need for that much darkvision come up, where standard 60' wouldn't accomplish what you need?)