Athena- Simic Hybrid (Nimble Climber, Carapace)Battle Master Fighter/Cobalt Soul Monk (Soldier) Simic Hybrid because she is enhanced for combat.
Ares- Goliath Zealot Barbarian/Oath of Conquest Paladin (Soldier) Goliath cause he big
Apollo- Fire Genasi Valor Bard (Entertainer) Fire Genasi cause he’s the Sun god.
Artemis- Air Genasi Gloom Stalker Ranger/Twilight Cleric (Outlander) Air Genasi for the moon, I guess?
Dionysus- Baalzebul Tiefling Spores Druid/Psionic Soul Sorcerer (Urchin) Baalzebul Tiefling for drunk stuff, like sickness and madness.
Hermes- Aaracockra Mercy Monk/Arcane Trickster Rogue (Hermit) Aaracockra for bird stuff and flight.
Hephaestus- Mountain Dwarf Battle SmithArtificer/Forge Cleric (Guild Artisan) Dwarf because he’s ugly, has broken legs (making him the shortest god), and is a great smith.
Aphrodite- Fierna Tiefling Unity Cleric/Depths Barbarian (Charlatan) Fierna Tiefling for mInD gAmEs
Although coming hopelessly to late to this discussion, here are my two drachma to this topic (please don't criticize bad grammar or spelling, foreign languages are difficult :)
I happen to notice two different approaches in this thread: characterize Goddesses (I'm using the generic feminine) by their behavior and acting or by their domains and powers.
So for example Zeus: he banged everything and everyone under the sun in two minutes tops, was criminally unfaithful to his wife, a dick as a father and self-absorbed BUT on the other hand, he was, among many other things, the god of hospitality, law and was called upon the breaking of contracts as revenging figure (so yes, he is a lawyer and/or judge, but he had help. Nemesis, for example).
In this perspective, a Paladin (Conquest) build is manageable, especially considering that Class and Race is not Character. I'm curious about Alignments, though...
Goddesses are complicated, with many different domains and powers, and conflicting personality traits. Using only one class for one Goddess feels ... incomplete, in most cases. I don't have a final answer, but have greatly enjoyed all suggestions and ideas. Actually, I have made a table with all Goddess-Class-combinations ;)
Apollo had the most different suggestions (8), which is not surprising since he is (among other things, but mainly) the god of archery, healing (shares with Asklepios), music, poetry (check "Muses" for more. Except theater, that's Dionysos), oracles and divination (sorry Hera, not yours completely), and the sun which he took over from Helios, the titan of the sun. They were combined to one deity, the same as Artemis and Semele.
He brought the pest over the Greek camp in the Trojan War. Conflicting, isn't he?
Suggestions for his class went from Bard (of course) to Paladin, Fighter, Wizard, Cleric and Ranger. Really, any combination of bow and magic is possible, so how about a sorcerer? Only kidding, my first pick is Bard, definitely. Although...
Side note: His most famous epithet (title) is "Phoebus", shining one, which correlates to the sun but could be interpreted as "golden boy", because he was described as the most beautiful of all Goddesses.
Close seconds are Hades and Zeus, with the latter way more diverse than the former.
Hades was mostly suggested as a dark and shadowy figure which is reasonable since he is the king of the dead. He is fair, just and dutiful, can turn invisible with his helmet and in some cases, smith weapons and stuff. In some incarnations, he is the god of wealth (because underworld, you know?), but some consider it Plutus' domain. (yes, the same as the roman god Pluto).
As mentioned above, the class doesn't make character, so a rogue with a lawful background is perfectly acceptable. Cleric, sorcerer and wizard were other suggestions. Warlock is interesting, since he could be the one making the deals (see "Orpheus" or "Theseus' failed and totally foolish attempt to abduct the Queen of the Underworld, Persephone").
Speaking of which... the original texts go to a great length to describe Zeus as the main villain in the story of the abduction of Persephone. It is, in its core, a myth about the mother-daughter-relationship between Demeter and Persephone. Persephone's first and foremost title isn't Goddess of spring - it's Queen of the Underworld.
Like, with a crown and throne.
Next to Hades.
Her faithful husband.
These two build one of only a few working relationships in the Greek mythology. The whole "Hades = Satan" thing was a later addition by Christians and probably some sexually repressed 19th-century Victorian writers.
Hades abducted Persephone. Considering those times these stories were written, marriage and abduction were ... close words.
(Side note: check Overly Sarcastic Productions' YouTube-channel for more)
Whoa, that got of topic. Moving on:
Zeus is ... complicated. Most class-combinations took the most focus in his role as god of storms. But he was so much more:
He was the king of the gods, one of the few deities universally worshiped in ancient Greece. He was the wielder of the Thunderbolt, making him god of the sky, storms, rain and thunder. Once upon a time, he was even a war god - until his children Athena and Ares took over. Wikipedia (and other sources, of course) list some more things like order, law, justice (he is THE king), hospitality and so on, but eventually there is a Goddess for everything, shrinking his role to the few things we recognize today. His equalization with Odin and/or Thor certainly didn't help.
Your comments on his class spread from Sorcerer (Storm) and Cleric (Tempest) over Barbarian (Storm) and Bard (Lore) to Druid (Moon), Wizard (Evocation) and Fighter (Eldritch knight). My addition would be Paladin - ignoring the whole "prays to a higher being". He is his own god, his powers come from the worship of others/mortals.
I could go on with other Goddesses like Poseidon, Athena and Aphrodite who all had surprisingly diverse possibilities. Others were fairly homogeneous, like Artemis (mainly Ranger and Druid), Hephaistos (Wizard [Inventor], Cleric [Forge] and, of course, Artificer [one or another specialty] or Ares (Barbarian of different flavors with the odd Fighter or Paladin).
The first of my two drachma go to the races. Consider a "God/dess Race" with added Bonuses of +5 of any fitting combination, a combined class level of something like 40 the ability to shape shift in some types of animals and/or plants at will and summons: a Goddess can summon any deity that follows them.
For example Zeus: as king of Olympos, he can summon any Greek Goddess at will, with an added focus on Iris or Hermes (whichever messenger you prefer) EXCEPT Hecate because she's awesome and the only Goddess not controlled by him. He has control over some titans, mainly those he defeated and those who followed him in the titanomachy. Hecatoncheires are interesting, same as cyclopes (not Poseidon's children) and gigantes.
Ares, on the other hand, can only summon his children Phobos, Deimos and Enyo.
Apollo could summon his muses and the Phytia (the snake, not the oracle), Artemis her huntresses and animals, Demeter some nymphs and so on. A Goddesses' might is directly influenced by how many followers they have. So to kill a Goddess, you would do best to work you way upwards the Olympic family tree. Maybe an idea for a campaign?
Few, that took way linger than anticipated. I enjoyed the discussion and was greatly inspired by your commends, so thank you very much.
My last drachma goes to Charon, the ferryman. Don't want to be stuck at the banks of Acheron or Styx ;)
Persephone would be a druid of the plain with the race of Spring eldran and background of fey lost but since she was not one of the main olympian did not include her originally
Persephone would be a druid of the plain with the race of Spring eldran and background of fey lost but since she was not one of the main olympian did not include her originally
Morning or rage, depending on the version of the myth. But either way it was Demeter who was responsible for seasonal changes. Persephone herself would probably be more likely as a human or high elf Grave Cleric.
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Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Morning or rage, depending on the version of the myth. But either way it was Demeter who was responsible for seasonal changes. Persephone herself would probably be more likely as a human or high elf Grave Cleric.
That’s why I thought Dhampir Druid. Cause Persephone’s tied to both the seasons and the underworld.
True but I geuss it depends on how you look becoase a dhampir is a child of a vampire but if you look at a earlier post I like the idea that the greek gods are all different kinds of elves so I would keep that.
True but I geuss it depends on how you look becoase a dhampir is a child of a vampire but if you look at a earlier post I like the idea that the greek gods are all different kinds of elves so I would keep that.
I'm trying to create a Pantheon for my homebrew world, and I'm working on Medusa! What race do I make her? I'm doing this completely with the whole free options only thing because I literally have no money, so I don't have many options. I was thinking maybe she could be a "human" since she was originally a human, and maybe be a Druid multiclass because of the whole snake thing? My goal is to not have her seem villainous.
I think gods like this should be built with monster stats, not a character sheet.
Honestly, I'm something of an expert in Greek mythology, and all of these gods are super hard to build with regular stats. Their species would either be human or homebrew, and Zeus would be a Storm Sorcerer and all the other gods would have their own classes and... Yeah, I'm not gonna run through all 13 of the important gods here.
Medusae have actual stats in game. But technically she is a Gorgon. And I think she was born as she is, IIRC. Child of two sea deities
There are often multiple conflicting myths about the same person/event. The most common Medusa origin I've heard was that she was transformed by Athena either to protect her from being assaulted at Athena's temple or as punishment for having sex at Athena's temple.
But technically she is a Gorgon. And I think she was born as she is, IIRC. Child of two sea deities
No. Sorry to be a mythology geek, but most versions of the myth state that Medusa was born a human and became a priest for Athena, but she and her two sisters were turned into gorgons afters stuff happened (not going to go into specifics, the story is very much not family friendly).
Also, the gorgons in game actually represent another monster from Greek mythology. She would be a medusa.
And I think she was born as she is, IIRC. Child of two sea deities
No. Sorry to be a mythology geek, but most versions of the myth state that Medusa was born a human and became a priest for Athena, but she and her two sisters were turned into gorgons afters stuff happened (not going to go into specifics, the story is very much not family friendly).
Lots of Greek God stuff isn't particularly family friendly. Imagine having to explain to your kids what Zeus got freaky with this time.
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One of them, yes. Peacocks as well. Maybe Divination Wizard could work for her.
Please check out my homebrew, I would appreciate feedback:
Spells, Monsters, Subclasses, Races, Arcknight Class, Occultist Class, World, Enigmatic Esoterica forms
bovines are sacred I agree.
“I will take responsibility for what I have done. [...] If must fall, I will rise each time a better man.” ― Brandon Sanderson, Oathbringer.
I made the six children of Kronos different types of Elves.(even if they don’t exist anymore)
Zeus- Star Elf Storm Sorcerer (Noble)
Poseidon- Sea Elf Open Sea Paladin (Sailor)
Hades- Drow Elf Raven Queen Warlock (Soldier)
Hera- High Elf Unity Cleric (Noble)
Hestia- Sun Elf Phoenix Sorcerer (Noble)
Demeter- Eladrin Elf (Spring) Forest Druid (Outlander)
Athena- Simic Hybrid (Nimble Climber, Carapace) Battle Master Fighter/Cobalt Soul Monk (Soldier) Simic Hybrid because she is enhanced for combat.
Ares- Goliath Zealot Barbarian/Oath of Conquest Paladin (Soldier) Goliath cause he big
Apollo- Fire Genasi Valor Bard (Entertainer) Fire Genasi cause he’s the Sun god.
Artemis- Air Genasi Gloom Stalker Ranger/Twilight Cleric (Outlander) Air Genasi for the moon, I guess?
Dionysus- Baalzebul Tiefling Spores Druid/Psionic Soul Sorcerer (Urchin) Baalzebul Tiefling for drunk stuff, like sickness and madness.
Hermes- Aaracockra Mercy Monk/Arcane Trickster Rogue (Hermit) Aaracockra for bird stuff and flight.
Hephaestus- Mountain Dwarf Battle Smith Artificer/Forge Cleric (Guild Artisan) Dwarf because he’s ugly, has broken legs (making him the shortest god), and is a great smith.
Aphrodite- Fierna Tiefling Unity Cleric/Depths Barbarian (Charlatan) Fierna Tiefling for mInD gAmEs
Although coming hopelessly to late to this discussion, here are my two drachma to this topic (please don't criticize bad grammar or spelling, foreign languages are difficult :)
I happen to notice two different approaches in this thread: characterize Goddesses (I'm using the generic feminine) by their behavior and acting or by their domains and powers.
So for example Zeus: he banged everything and everyone under the sun in two minutes tops, was criminally unfaithful to his wife, a dick as a father and self-absorbed BUT on the other hand, he was, among many other things, the god of hospitality, law and was called upon the breaking of contracts as revenging figure (so yes, he is a lawyer and/or judge, but he had help. Nemesis, for example).
In this perspective, a Paladin (Conquest) build is manageable, especially considering that Class and Race is not Character. I'm curious about Alignments, though...
Goddesses are complicated, with many different domains and powers, and conflicting personality traits. Using only one class for one Goddess feels ... incomplete, in most cases. I don't have a final answer, but have greatly enjoyed all suggestions and ideas. Actually, I have made a table with all Goddess-Class-combinations ;)
Apollo had the most different suggestions (8), which is not surprising since he is (among other things, but mainly) the god of archery, healing (shares with Asklepios), music, poetry (check "Muses" for more. Except theater, that's Dionysos), oracles and divination (sorry Hera, not yours completely), and the sun which he took over from Helios, the titan of the sun. They were combined to one deity, the same as Artemis and Semele.
He brought the pest over the Greek camp in the Trojan War. Conflicting, isn't he?
Suggestions for his class went from Bard (of course) to Paladin, Fighter, Wizard, Cleric and Ranger. Really, any combination of bow and magic is possible, so how about a sorcerer? Only kidding, my first pick is Bard, definitely. Although...
Side note: His most famous epithet (title) is "Phoebus", shining one, which correlates to the sun but could be interpreted as "golden boy", because he was described as the most beautiful of all Goddesses.
Close seconds are Hades and Zeus, with the latter way more diverse than the former.
Hades was mostly suggested as a dark and shadowy figure which is reasonable since he is the king of the dead. He is fair, just and dutiful, can turn invisible with his helmet and in some cases, smith weapons and stuff. In some incarnations, he is the god of wealth (because underworld, you know?), but some consider it Plutus' domain. (yes, the same as the roman god Pluto).
As mentioned above, the class doesn't make character, so a rogue with a lawful background is perfectly acceptable. Cleric, sorcerer and wizard were other suggestions. Warlock is interesting, since he could be the one making the deals (see "Orpheus" or "Theseus' failed and totally foolish attempt to abduct the Queen of the Underworld, Persephone").
Speaking of which... the original texts go to a great length to describe Zeus as the main villain in the story of the abduction of Persephone. It is, in its core, a myth about the mother-daughter-relationship between Demeter and Persephone. Persephone's first and foremost title isn't Goddess of spring - it's Queen of the Underworld.
Like, with a crown and throne.
Next to Hades.
Her faithful husband.
These two build one of only a few working relationships in the Greek mythology. The whole "Hades = Satan" thing was a later addition by Christians and probably some sexually repressed 19th-century Victorian writers.
Hades abducted Persephone. Considering those times these stories were written, marriage and abduction were ... close words.
(Side note: check Overly Sarcastic Productions' YouTube-channel for more)
Whoa, that got of topic. Moving on:
Zeus is ... complicated. Most class-combinations took the most focus in his role as god of storms. But he was so much more:
He was the king of the gods, one of the few deities universally worshiped in ancient Greece. He was the wielder of the Thunderbolt, making him god of the sky, storms, rain and thunder. Once upon a time, he was even a war god - until his children Athena and Ares took over. Wikipedia (and other sources, of course) list some more things like order, law, justice (he is THE king), hospitality and so on, but eventually there is a Goddess for everything, shrinking his role to the few things we recognize today. His equalization with Odin and/or Thor certainly didn't help.
Your comments on his class spread from Sorcerer (Storm) and Cleric (Tempest) over Barbarian (Storm) and Bard (Lore) to Druid (Moon), Wizard (Evocation) and Fighter (Eldritch knight). My addition would be Paladin - ignoring the whole "prays to a higher being". He is his own god, his powers come from the worship of others/mortals.
I could go on with other Goddesses like Poseidon, Athena and Aphrodite who all had surprisingly diverse possibilities. Others were fairly homogeneous, like Artemis (mainly Ranger and Druid), Hephaistos (Wizard [Inventor], Cleric [Forge] and, of course, Artificer [one or another specialty] or Ares (Barbarian of different flavors with the odd Fighter or Paladin).
The first of my two drachma go to the races. Consider a "God/dess Race" with added Bonuses of +5 of any fitting combination, a combined class level of something like 40 the ability to shape shift in some types of animals and/or plants at will and summons: a Goddess can summon any deity that follows them.
For example Zeus: as king of Olympos, he can summon any Greek Goddess at will, with an added focus on Iris or Hermes (whichever messenger you prefer) EXCEPT Hecate because she's awesome and the only Goddess not controlled by him. He has control over some titans, mainly those he defeated and those who followed him in the titanomachy. Hecatoncheires are interesting, same as cyclopes (not Poseidon's children) and gigantes.
Ares, on the other hand, can only summon his children Phobos, Deimos and Enyo.
Apollo could summon his muses and the Phytia (the snake, not the oracle), Artemis her huntresses and animals, Demeter some nymphs and so on. A Goddesses' might is directly influenced by how many followers they have. So to kill a Goddess, you would do best to work you way upwards the Olympic family tree. Maybe an idea for a campaign?
Few, that took way linger than anticipated. I enjoyed the discussion and was greatly inspired by your commends, so thank you very much.
My last drachma goes to Charon, the ferryman. Don't want to be stuck at the banks of Acheron or Styx ;)
ohhhh! wow! this is amazing! if only you hap added one for a Persephone!
Maybe a Dhampir Druid? To symbolize her connection with the land but also with the underworld.
Persephone would be a druid of the plain with the race of Spring eldran and background of fey lost but since she was not one of the main olympian did not include her originally
Spring eladrin totally works.
Persephone was taken and that was the first winter in greece so that would tye into the fact eldran change by season
It was actually her mom, Demeter, who changed the seasons.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
Morning or rage, depending on the version of the myth. But either way it was Demeter who was responsible for seasonal changes. Persephone herself would probably be more likely as a human or high elf Grave Cleric.
Find your own truth, choose your enemies carefully, and never deal with a dragon.
"Canon" is what's factual to D&D lore. "Cannon" is what you're going to be shot with if you keep getting the word wrong.
That’s why I thought Dhampir Druid. Cause Persephone’s tied to both the seasons and the underworld.
True but I geuss it depends on how you look becoase a dhampir is a child of a vampire but if you look at a earlier post I like the idea that the greek gods are all different kinds of elves so I would keep that.
Okay cool
I'm trying to create a Pantheon for my homebrew world, and I'm working on Medusa! What race do I make her? I'm doing this completely with the whole free options only thing because I literally have no money, so I don't have many options. I was thinking maybe she could be a "human" since she was originally a human, and maybe be a Druid multiclass because of the whole snake thing? My goal is to not have her seem villainous.
I think gods like this should be built with monster stats, not a character sheet.
Honestly, I'm something of an expert in Greek mythology, and all of these gods are super hard to build with regular stats. Their species would either be human or homebrew, and Zeus would be a Storm Sorcerer and all the other gods would have their own classes and... Yeah, I'm not gonna run through all 13 of the important gods here.
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HERE.There are often multiple conflicting myths about the same person/event. The most common Medusa origin I've heard was that she was transformed by Athena either to protect her from being assaulted at Athena's temple or as punishment for having sex at Athena's temple.
I agree with this. This is my philosophy for all NPCs.
No. Sorry to be a mythology geek, but most versions of the myth state that Medusa was born a human and became a priest for Athena, but she and her two sisters were turned into gorgons afters stuff happened (not going to go into specifics, the story is very much not family friendly).
Also, the gorgons in game actually represent another monster from Greek mythology. She would be a medusa.
BoringBard's long and tedious posts somehow manage to enrapture audiences. How? Because he used Charm Person, the #1 bard spell!
He/him pronouns. Call me Bard. PROUD NERD!
Ever wanted to talk about your parties' worst mistakes? Do so HERE. What's your favorite class, why? Share & explain
HERE.Most of th
Lots of Greek God stuff isn't particularly family friendly. Imagine having to explain to your kids what Zeus got freaky with this time.